Re: [nysbirds-l] Shirley Chisholm S.P. question

[Paul R Sweet]

Andrew

Why not enter these data in ebird?

Best, Paul

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Block  wrote:


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Hi all,

I see that the Penn and Fountain Ave. landfills have been made into the Shirley 
Chisholm S.P.  Glad they finally opened it up to the public.  I worked there 
for a year in '06 and '07 while it was still being capped and was wondering if 
anyone knows who I can contact to see if they are interested in a list of 
birds/wildlife seen there for that period.  I have a large list with some 
goodies on it.

Thanks,

Andrew

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Shirley Chisholm S.P. question

[Paul R Sweet]

Andrew

Why not enter these data in ebird?

Best, Paul

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of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Block  wrote:


EXTERNAL SENDER

Hi all,

I see that the Penn and Fountain Ave. landfills have been made into the Shirley 
Chisholm S.P.  Glad they finally opened it up to the public.  I worked there 
for a year in '06 and '07 while it was still being capped and was wondering if 
anyone knows who I can contact to see if they are interested in a list of 
birds/wildlife seen there for that period.  I have a large list with some 
goodies on it.

Thanks,

Andrew

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Yonkers, N.Y.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Great Shearwater at Nickerson Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Hi Ardith

I’m in Puerto Rico until 11 July. Could you keep the bird until then or perhaps 
find someone who will hold it? 

Thank you. Paul

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> On Jun 28, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Ardith Bondi  wrote:
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> message for Paul Sweet, but have not heard back. And, I don’t know whether 
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> hope someone can advise me soon what to do with it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Great Shearwater at Nickerson Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Hi Ardith

I’m in Puerto Rico until 11 July. Could you keep the bird until then or perhaps 
find someone who will hold it? 

Thank you. Paul

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

> On Jun 28, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Ardith Bondi  wrote:
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> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> I picked up this bird today and have it double-bagged in my freezer. I left a 
> message for Paul Sweet, but have not heard back. And, I don’t know whether 
> he’s around or on vacation. I really don’t want to keep it too long, so I 
> hope someone can advise me soon what to do with it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ardith Bondi
> NYC
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RE: [nysbirds-l] avian influenza in Scotland, the U.S.A. (NYS), and beyond, into June '22

[Paul R Sweet]

Tom

While Avian Influenza is certainly ravaging seabird colonies in the North 
Atlantic, I think the shearwater die off is not caused by this, at least I have 
not heard of any of these birds testing positive for HPAI. I prepared an good 
number of Great Shearwaters from the 2017 die off and they were all emaciated 
first year birds on their first trip north form the South Atlantic breeding 
islands. This is a fairly regular phenomenon, a good review can be found here: 
https://www.carolinabirdclub.org/chat/issues/2009/v73n2grsh.pdf

Again, if people find any pelagic birds in decent condition could you please 
bag and freeze and I'll make arrangements to collect them.

Good birding, Paul



-Original Message-
From: bounce-126627148-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Tom Fiore
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 5:56 AM
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] avian influenza in Scotland, the U.S.A. (NYS), and 
beyond, into June '22

EXTERNAL SENDER


Regarding **possible causes** of mortalities of dead (or dying) seabirds, 
particularly shearwaters of at least several species seen just lately on the 
Atlantic shores of (at least) New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and 
possibly northward, which at-least anecdotally are now likely into the 
many-hundreds for these states, in just recent weeks (if not recent days alone) 
-

There is what has been termed (by the Government of Great Britain, and the by 
Government of Scotland) *HPAI* (Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza) affecting in 
particular there, the northern coastal area of Scotland, and also other areas 
of the U.K.  **This note is to do with wild birds.**   Some estimates are that 
the world's largest breeding-population (or 'colony'; estimates of total recent 
numbers run to 150,000 of this one species at the site) of Northern Gannet 
(Morus bassanus) - located in the Firth of Forth Scotland (U.K.) have been 
very-much affected by the H5N1 avian flu, with reports noting "hundreds" 
(possibly now into the thousands for all of U.K.) of N. Gannets dead or dying 
there by early June, and sadly this has been ongoing there.  Various other 
breeding seabirds at U.K. colonies are being seen as affected by this and these 
have included birds such as some loons ("divers" in the U.K.) and skua, as well 
as other groups of strong-flying species.  That same avian flu has been 
affecting birds in Europe and beyond.  [N.B., the Bass Rock (Scotland) gannetry 
has inspired a much-read monograph on that species published in the U.K.]

This "H.P.A.I." is usually or regularly also referred to as H5N1 avian flu and 
has been documented in at least 35 states in the U.S.A. as of June '22.  
Potentially affected species are many, but already confirmed are varied species 
(i.e. - some, not all species in any given order or family!) in the [migratory 
and potentially-migratory] groups such as the Anseriformes (swans, geese, 
ducks, & etc.), the Suliformes (which includes all Sulidae, which 'sulids' 
takes in Gannet species such as Northern Gannet and also booby species, as well 
as cormorants, shags, & etc.), and the Procellariformes (albatrosses, many 
types of petrels, and etc.), and a variety of additional *orders* of birds of 
which some species-groups are very capable of trans-oceanic, long-distance 
flight.  H5N1 avian flu has also been detected in birds in eastern Canada as 
well as elsewhere in this year.

More is being learnt daily on this subject. Many references are available 
on-line, with one I have noted being this (United States Geological Survey, 
National Wildlife Health Center - a division in the U.S. federal government): 
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usgs.gov%2Fcenters%2Fnwhc%2Fscience%2Fdistribution-highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-north-america-20212022data=05%7C01%7C%7C84249e7906ab4d59945d08da52b370d8%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637913227924029994%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=9HC5c4XY%2Bs2KsM3iqqoEKQBQN%2Fk8uR6DTxhgRB8VCgw%3Dreserved=0
 (this link updated to at least June 14, '22).  Relative to the state of New 
York, a chart in the above web page[s] indicates that H5N1 avian flu has been 
detected in (*some*) wild birds and in (*some*) wild mammals in this state. The 
chart also indicates detections (of this form of avian flu) in many other U.S. 
states, and in multiple provinces in Canada, to this year.  I also am aware of 
information from the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control 
(U.S.A.), the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (U.K., popularly the 
RSPB), and multiple other sources in the U.S.A. and also abroad.

There is more-than-anecdotal evidence that in at least Scotland and its' isles, 
and some parts of n.-w. Europe such as Svarlbard (Norway), increasingly high 
numbers of seabirds and waterbirds of multiple species may have succumbed to 
this flu.  All who 

RE: [nysbirds-l] avian influenza in Scotland, the U.S.A. (NYS), and beyond, into June '22

[Paul R Sweet]

Tom

While Avian Influenza is certainly ravaging seabird colonies in the North 
Atlantic, I think the shearwater die off is not caused by this, at least I have 
not heard of any of these birds testing positive for HPAI. I prepared an good 
number of Great Shearwaters from the 2017 die off and they were all emaciated 
first year birds on their first trip north form the South Atlantic breeding 
islands. This is a fairly regular phenomenon, a good review can be found here: 
https://www.carolinabirdclub.org/chat/issues/2009/v73n2grsh.pdf

Again, if people find any pelagic birds in decent condition could you please 
bag and freeze and I'll make arrangements to collect them.

Good birding, Paul



-Original Message-
From: bounce-126627148-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Tom Fiore
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 5:56 AM
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] avian influenza in Scotland, the U.S.A. (NYS), and 
beyond, into June '22

EXTERNAL SENDER


Regarding **possible causes** of mortalities of dead (or dying) seabirds, 
particularly shearwaters of at least several species seen just lately on the 
Atlantic shores of (at least) New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and 
possibly northward, which at-least anecdotally are now likely into the 
many-hundreds for these states, in just recent weeks (if not recent days alone) 
-

There is what has been termed (by the Government of Great Britain, and the by 
Government of Scotland) *HPAI* (Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza) affecting in 
particular there, the northern coastal area of Scotland, and also other areas 
of the U.K.  **This note is to do with wild birds.**   Some estimates are that 
the world's largest breeding-population (or 'colony'; estimates of total recent 
numbers run to 150,000 of this one species at the site) of Northern Gannet 
(Morus bassanus) - located in the Firth of Forth Scotland (U.K.) have been 
very-much affected by the H5N1 avian flu, with reports noting "hundreds" 
(possibly now into the thousands for all of U.K.) of N. Gannets dead or dying 
there by early June, and sadly this has been ongoing there.  Various other 
breeding seabirds at U.K. colonies are being seen as affected by this and these 
have included birds such as some loons ("divers" in the U.K.) and skua, as well 
as other groups of strong-flying species.  That same avian flu has been 
affecting birds in Europe and beyond.  [N.B., the Bass Rock (Scotland) gannetry 
has inspired a much-read monograph on that species published in the U.K.]

This "H.P.A.I." is usually or regularly also referred to as H5N1 avian flu and 
has been documented in at least 35 states in the U.S.A. as of June '22.  
Potentially affected species are many, but already confirmed are varied species 
(i.e. - some, not all species in any given order or family!) in the [migratory 
and potentially-migratory] groups such as the Anseriformes (swans, geese, 
ducks, & etc.), the Suliformes (which includes all Sulidae, which 'sulids' 
takes in Gannet species such as Northern Gannet and also booby species, as well 
as cormorants, shags, & etc.), and the Procellariformes (albatrosses, many 
types of petrels, and etc.), and a variety of additional *orders* of birds of 
which some species-groups are very capable of trans-oceanic, long-distance 
flight.  H5N1 avian flu has also been detected in birds in eastern Canada as 
well as elsewhere in this year.

More is being learnt daily on this subject. Many references are available 
on-line, with one I have noted being this (United States Geological Survey, 
National Wildlife Health Center - a division in the U.S. federal government): 
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usgs.gov%2Fcenters%2Fnwhc%2Fscience%2Fdistribution-highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-north-america-20212022data=05%7C01%7C%7C84249e7906ab4d59945d08da52b370d8%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637913227924029994%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=9HC5c4XY%2Bs2KsM3iqqoEKQBQN%2Fk8uR6DTxhgRB8VCgw%3Dreserved=0
 (this link updated to at least June 14, '22).  Relative to the state of New 
York, a chart in the above web page[s] indicates that H5N1 avian flu has been 
detected in (*some*) wild birds and in (*some*) wild mammals in this state. The 
chart also indicates detections (of this form of avian flu) in many other U.S. 
states, and in multiple provinces in Canada, to this year.  I also am aware of 
information from the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control 
(U.S.A.), the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (U.K., popularly the 
RSPB), and multiple other sources in the U.S.A. and also abroad.

There is more-than-anecdotal evidence that in at least Scotland and its' isles, 
and some parts of n.-w. Europe such as Svarlbard (Norway), increasingly high 
numbers of seabirds and waterbirds of multiple species may have succumbed to 
this flu.  All who 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Any chance of saving Cory’s and Manx for the museum? So far I’ve only heard 
about Sooty and Great in the current die off.

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Arthur H. Kopelman, Ph.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> I was at the FINS area at Smith Point and spoke to a ranger about the dead 
> Cory's and Manx shearwaters I saw, he said there have also been dead Wilson's 
> storm petrels as well.  I told him about the folks in Canada finding avian 
> flu in their dead shearwaters, he said that the NPS folks have found the same.
> 
> Arthur H. Kopelman, Ph.D.
> President, Coastal Research and Education Society of Long Island
> presid...@cresli.org
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> (631) 319-6003
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> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: bounce-126610433-85168...@list.cornell.edu <> On Behalf Of Paul R Sweet
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 4:26 PM
> To: Shaibal Mitra 
> Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach
> 
> Thank you for posting this Shai.
> 
> If you do find a freshly dead Shearwater, or any other unusual wrecked 
> seabird, please do consider salvaging it for the AMNH. If you could freeze 
> the specimen and record locality and date, we can make arrangements to 
> collect. I recommend double bagging.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
> of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | 
> Mob 718 757 5941
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
>> 
>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>> 
>> 
>> This morning Patricia Lindsay and I found one dead Great Shearwater and four 
>> dead Sooty Shearwaters along ca. two miles of beachfront at Democrat Point, 
>> southwestern Suffolk County. Mentioning this to others in our circle, I 
>> learned second-hand of reports today of many dead shearwaters along the 
>> beach in the Montauk area. If you are visiting the beaches over the next few 
>> days, please take a few minutes to check the wrack line for these birds. If 
>> unsure of the identification, please take a photo and feel free to contact 
>> me. If the bird is in fresh condition (checking the eyes is an easy way to 
>> tell), consider salvaging it for Paul Sweet at the American Museum of 
>> Natural History. If you cover some ground searching, be sure to measure or 
>> estimate the distance covered.
>> 
>> Many on this list will remember June 2017, when there was a spectacular 
>> inshore movement of Great Shearwaters along the whole Long Island coast, 
>> including much further west than usual, followed by the discovery of large 
>> numbers of dead birds.
>> 
>> We also saw living Great and Cory's Shearwaters this morning, our first of 
>> the year.
>> 
>> Shai Mitra
>> Bay Shore
>> --
>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Any chance of saving Cory’s and Manx for the museum? So far I’ve only heard 
about Sooty and Great in the current die off.

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Arthur H. Kopelman, Ph.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> I was at the FINS area at Smith Point and spoke to a ranger about the dead 
> Cory's and Manx shearwaters I saw, he said there have also been dead Wilson's 
> storm petrels as well.  I told him about the folks in Canada finding avian 
> flu in their dead shearwaters, he said that the NPS folks have found the same.
> 
> Arthur H. Kopelman, Ph.D.
> President, Coastal Research and Education Society of Long Island
> presid...@cresli.org
> PO Box 54, West Sayville, NY 11796
> (631) 319-6003
> (631) 316-3441 (mobile)
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> before such a one can be again."
> William Beebe
> Be kind to the environment - unless you need to, please don't print this 
> e-mail
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: bounce-126610433-85168...@list.cornell.edu <> On Behalf Of Paul R Sweet
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 4:26 PM
> To: Shaibal Mitra 
> Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach
> 
> Thank you for posting this Shai.
> 
> If you do find a freshly dead Shearwater, or any other unusual wrecked 
> seabird, please do consider salvaging it for the AMNH. If you could freeze 
> the specimen and record locality and date, we can make arrangements to 
> collect. I recommend double bagging.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
> of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | 
> Mob 718 757 5941
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
>> 
>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>> 
>> 
>> This morning Patricia Lindsay and I found one dead Great Shearwater and four 
>> dead Sooty Shearwaters along ca. two miles of beachfront at Democrat Point, 
>> southwestern Suffolk County. Mentioning this to others in our circle, I 
>> learned second-hand of reports today of many dead shearwaters along the 
>> beach in the Montauk area. If you are visiting the beaches over the next few 
>> days, please take a few minutes to check the wrack line for these birds. If 
>> unsure of the identification, please take a photo and feel free to contact 
>> me. If the bird is in fresh condition (checking the eyes is an easy way to 
>> tell), consider salvaging it for Paul Sweet at the American Museum of 
>> Natural History. If you cover some ground searching, be sure to measure or 
>> estimate the distance covered.
>> 
>> Many on this list will remember June 2017, when there was a spectacular 
>> inshore movement of Great Shearwaters along the whole Long Island coast, 
>> including much further west than usual, followed by the discovery of large 
>> numbers of dead birds.
>> 
>> We also saw living Great and Cory's Shearwaters this morning, our first of 
>> the year.
>> 
>> Shai Mitra
>> Bay Shore
>> --
>> 
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Thank you for posting this Shai.

If you do find a freshly dead Shearwater, or any other unusual wrecked seabird, 
please do consider salvaging it for the AMNH. If you could freeze the specimen 
and record locality and date, we can make arrangements to collect. I recommend 
double bagging.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> This morning Patricia Lindsay and I found one dead Great Shearwater and four 
> dead Sooty Shearwaters along ca. two miles of beachfront at Democrat Point, 
> southwestern Suffolk County. Mentioning this to others in our circle, I 
> learned second-hand of reports today of many dead shearwaters along the beach 
> in the Montauk area. If you are visiting the beaches over the next few days, 
> please take a few minutes to check the wrack line for these birds. If unsure 
> of the identification, please take a photo and feel free to contact me. If 
> the bird is in fresh condition (checking the eyes is an easy way to tell), 
> consider salvaging it for Paul Sweet at the American Museum of Natural 
> History. If you cover some ground searching, be sure to measure or estimate 
> the distance covered.
> 
> Many on this list will remember June 2017, when there was a spectacular 
> inshore movement of Great Shearwaters along the whole Long Island coast, 
> including much further west than usual, followed by the discovery of large 
> numbers of dead birds.
> 
> We also saw living Great and Cory's Shearwaters this morning, our first of 
> the year.
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> --
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dead Shearwaters on the Beach

[Paul R Sweet]

Thank you for posting this Shai.

If you do find a freshly dead Shearwater, or any other unusual wrecked seabird, 
please do consider salvaging it for the AMNH. If you could freeze the specimen 
and record locality and date, we can make arrangements to collect. I recommend 
double bagging.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> This morning Patricia Lindsay and I found one dead Great Shearwater and four 
> dead Sooty Shearwaters along ca. two miles of beachfront at Democrat Point, 
> southwestern Suffolk County. Mentioning this to others in our circle, I 
> learned second-hand of reports today of many dead shearwaters along the beach 
> in the Montauk area. If you are visiting the beaches over the next few days, 
> please take a few minutes to check the wrack line for these birds. If unsure 
> of the identification, please take a photo and feel free to contact me. If 
> the bird is in fresh condition (checking the eyes is an easy way to tell), 
> consider salvaging it for Paul Sweet at the American Museum of Natural 
> History. If you cover some ground searching, be sure to measure or estimate 
> the distance covered.
> 
> Many on this list will remember June 2017, when there was a spectacular 
> inshore movement of Great Shearwaters along the whole Long Island coast, 
> including much further west than usual, followed by the discovery of large 
> numbers of dead birds.
> 
> We also saw living Great and Cory's Shearwaters this morning, our first of 
> the year.
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans, Fire Island

[Paul R Sweet]

5 Brown Pelicans off Davis Park, Fire Island. Close in flying west. At 8:15

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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans, Fire Island

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5 Brown Pelicans off Davis Park, Fire Island. Close in flying west. At 8:15

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Mississippi Kite NY Botanical Gardens

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks Andrew. Eyes up!

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On May 9, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:


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I just tweeted your sighting @ 
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Good spotting and a great bird for the Bronx.

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On May 9, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:

Five minutes ago I saw a Mississippi Kite flying west out of the forested area 
at NYBG. Keep your eyes in the sky.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Mississippi Kite NY Botanical Gardens

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks Andrew. Eyes up!

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of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
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Good spotting and a great bird for the Bronx.

Cheers,


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manifestations of strength and resolution” ~ Khalil Gibran

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
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On May 9, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:

Five minutes ago I saw a Mississippi Kite flying west out of the forested area 
at NYBG. Keep your eyes in the sky.

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[nysbirds-l] Mississippi Kite NY Botanical Gardens

[Paul R Sweet]

Five minutes ago I saw a Mississippi Kite flying west out of the forested area 
at NYBG. Keep your eyes in the sky.

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[nysbirds-l] Mississippi Kite NY Botanical Gardens

[Paul R Sweet]

Five minutes ago I saw a Mississippi Kite flying west out of the forested area 
at NYBG. Keep your eyes in the sky.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Friday AM Wood Stork

[Paul R Sweet]

Oops sorry not meant for list.

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On May 7, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:


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If you’re out east this weekend this might be worth a shot. I imagine it will 
be quite a “twitch” with lots of birders wanting it for their state lists.

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On May 7, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Katherine Kleinpeter  
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The Wood Stork previously reported yesterday was observed at 5:40 this morning 
roosting in a tree on the west side of the creek at the location previously 
provided by observers. Shortly after I arrived it was harassed by an Osprey, 
taking off and flying south along the creek.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:39 PM Brendan Fogarty 
mailto:bn...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Still present at 5:35, preening on a dock just across creek. Seen from shoulder 
of Montauk Hwy just south of intersection with Old Country Rd.

Brendan Fogarty

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:37 PM Eileen Schwinn 
mailto:beach...@optonline.net>> wrote:
Relocated Wood Stork in WH area. Currently being seen by MOB on east side of 
Beaverdam Creek at Montauk Hwy, Westhampton.  This is slightly west ofOld 
Country Rd  the north and Mill Rd to the south.  Very near Casa Baso Reataurant 
- but DO NOT PARK THERE.  Originally found at reported spot  yesterday earlier 
today.
Eileen Schwinn
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Friday AM Wood Stork

[Paul R Sweet]

Oops sorry not meant for list.

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On May 7, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:


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If you’re out east this weekend this might be worth a shot. I imagine it will 
be quite a “twitch” with lots of birders wanting it for their state lists.

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

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The Wood Stork previously reported yesterday was observed at 5:40 this morning 
roosting in a tree on the west side of the creek at the location previously 
provided by observers. Shortly after I arrived it was harassed by an Osprey, 
taking off and flying south along the creek.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:39 PM Brendan Fogarty 
mailto:bn...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Still present at 5:35, preening on a dock just across creek. Seen from shoulder 
of Montauk Hwy just south of intersection with Old Country Rd.

Brendan Fogarty

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:37 PM Eileen Schwinn 
mailto:beach...@optonline.net>> wrote:
Relocated Wood Stork in WH area. Currently being seen by MOB on east side of 
Beaverdam Creek at Montauk Hwy, Westhampton.  This is slightly west ofOld 
Country Rd  the north and Mill Rd to the south.  Very near Casa Baso Reataurant 
- but DO NOT PARK THERE.  Originally found at reported spot  yesterday earlier 
today.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Friday AM Wood Stork

[Paul R Sweet]

If you’re out east this weekend this might be worth a shot. I imagine it will 
be quite a “twitch” with lots of birders wanting it for their state lists.

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

On May 7, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Katherine Kleinpeter  
wrote:


EXTERNAL SENDER

The Wood Stork previously reported yesterday was observed at 5:40 this morning 
roosting in a tree on the west side of the creek at the location previously 
provided by observers. Shortly after I arrived it was harassed by an Osprey, 
taking off and flying south along the creek.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:39 PM Brendan Fogarty 
mailto:bn...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Still present at 5:35, preening on a dock just across creek. Seen from shoulder 
of Montauk Hwy just south of intersection with Old Country Rd.

Brendan Fogarty

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:37 PM Eileen Schwinn 
mailto:beach...@optonline.net>> wrote:
Relocated Wood Stork in WH area. Currently being seen by MOB on east side of 
Beaverdam Creek at Montauk Hwy, Westhampton.  This is slightly west ofOld 
Country Rd  the north and Mill Rd to the south.  Very near Casa Baso Reataurant 
- but DO NOT PARK THERE.  Originally found at reported spot  yesterday earlier 
today.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Friday AM Wood Stork

[Paul R Sweet]

If you’re out east this weekend this might be worth a shot. I imagine it will 
be quite a “twitch” with lots of birders wanting it for their state lists.

Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

On May 7, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Katherine Kleinpeter  
wrote:


EXTERNAL SENDER

The Wood Stork previously reported yesterday was observed at 5:40 this morning 
roosting in a tree on the west side of the creek at the location previously 
provided by observers. Shortly after I arrived it was harassed by an Osprey, 
taking off and flying south along the creek.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:39 PM Brendan Fogarty 
mailto:bn...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Still present at 5:35, preening on a dock just across creek. Seen from shoulder 
of Montauk Hwy just south of intersection with Old Country Rd.

Brendan Fogarty

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:37 PM Eileen Schwinn 
mailto:beach...@optonline.net>> wrote:
Relocated Wood Stork in WH area. Currently being seen by MOB on east side of 
Beaverdam Creek at Montauk Hwy, Westhampton.  This is slightly west ofOld 
Country Rd  the north and Mill Rd to the south.  Very near Casa Baso Reataurant 
- but DO NOT PARK THERE.  Originally found at reported spot  yesterday earlier 
today.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Yellow-breasted and capped chickadee

[Paul R Sweet]

Pollen?

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On May 3, 2021, at 5:58 PM, anneboby  wrote:


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Andy - is it perhaps a case of xanthochromism?

Bob Yunick
Schenectady, NY


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Mason 
To: NYSBIRDS 
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 11:28 am
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Yellow-breasted and capped chickadee

What I presume is an oddly-plumaged B-C Chickadee in Schoharie County in the 
Catskill Mts.  I'm not aware of this variant.  Photo at 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MTgkggDi4QzpcWE64FxgQe7iUv_Mrezq/view?usp=sharing.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospect Park Progne

[Paul R Sweet]

Park outside the park. There is usually space on Prospect Park SW. navigate to 
Vanderbilt Playground. Walk in and the lake will be in front of you.

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> I would appreciate any help anyone could give about driving and parking to 
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> 
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow
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> On Friday, April 2, 2021, 8:42:17 AM EDT, Doug Gochfeld 
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
> A group of birders is currently looking at the intriguing Progne martin in 
> Prospect Park. It is perched in a tree overhanging the NW corner of the lake. 
> Nice comparison showing its apparently relatively small size for a martin.
> 
> Good Birding
> -Doug Gochfeld. Brooklyn, NY.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospect Park Progne

[Paul R Sweet]

Park outside the park. There is usually space on Prospect Park SW. navigate to 
Vanderbilt Playground. Walk in and the lake will be in front of you.

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> On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
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>  wrote:
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> 
> A group of birders is currently looking at the intriguing Progne martin in 
> Prospect Park. It is perched in a tree overhanging the NW corner of the lake. 
> Nice comparison showing its apparently relatively small size for a martin.
> 
> Good Birding
> -Doug Gochfeld. Brooklyn, NY.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Banded Ring-billed Gull

[Paul R Sweet]

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Banded Ring-billed Gull

[Paul R Sweet]

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Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | 200 Central Park West | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 
718 757 5941

On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:20 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:

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I found an adult Ring-billed with a silver band on one leg and a blue band with 
white letters on the other, today at Croton Point Park.  Who do I send this to?

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk and another state first

[Paul R Sweet]

Larry

I’ll be happy to examine and photograph these specimens if you think it would 
be helpful.

Paul


Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 
| Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Shaibal Mitra  
> wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Hi Larry and all,
> 
> That is certainly a striking looking owl and a candidate for B. v. 
> subarcticus (=wapacuthu in much 20th Century literature).
> 
> Salzman (1998, in "Bull's Birds of New York State") cites three specimens of 
> Subarctic Great Horned Owl in NYS, from Erie, Bronx, and Suffolk Counties, 
> and mentions specimens from NJ and CT as well.
> 
> In case you are considering writing this up for NYSARC and/or The Kingbird, 
> note that the date of the old Bronx specimen (AMNH 144845) is given as 15 Feb 
> 1910 by Salzman, but as 15 Feb 1919 by Parkes (who directly examined the 
> specimen, in his 1952 Cornell PhD dissertation).
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: bounce-125331055-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-125331055-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Larry Scacchetti 
> [larrybird4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:52 AM
> To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk and another state first
> 
> Saturday, Justin Muratore and I located the FEHA on Onion Ave at 8:30 am.  
> The bird circle the field and perched in a tree very close to the road.  It 
> offered amazing looks before heading East over the tree line towards Celery 
> Ave.
> 
> The more amazing bits of the day, for me at least, was the adult subarcticus 
> Great Horned Owl.  This subspecies as far as I can tell hasn’t been in the 
> lower 48 outside of MN.  The bright with GHOW stood out like a sore thumb.  
> We sat there on the side of the road waiting for the line of speeding cars, 
> heading off the the next FEHA sighting, to pass and then we just had this 
> quiet moment watching this unreal visitor from the north.
> 
> Photos of the owl, and hawk, can be seen here :
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Flarrybird13%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cb4f1d0ad83ee48c92fb808d8c1451b49%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637471849851791235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=pvreQtLaGrhVjLDDcF36K%2BNKC%2FpAvkR3T2T9YdHFpSw%3Dreserved=0
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> Good birding,
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk and another state first

[Paul R Sweet]

Larry

I’ll be happy to examine and photograph these specimens if you think it would 
be helpful.

Paul


Paul Sweet | Collection Manager | Department of Ornithology | American Museum 
of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 
| Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Shaibal Mitra  
> wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Hi Larry and all,
> 
> That is certainly a striking looking owl and a candidate for B. v. 
> subarcticus (=wapacuthu in much 20th Century literature).
> 
> Salzman (1998, in "Bull's Birds of New York State") cites three specimens of 
> Subarctic Great Horned Owl in NYS, from Erie, Bronx, and Suffolk Counties, 
> and mentions specimens from NJ and CT as well.
> 
> In case you are considering writing this up for NYSARC and/or The Kingbird, 
> note that the date of the old Bronx specimen (AMNH 144845) is given as 15 Feb 
> 1910 by Salzman, but as 15 Feb 1919 by Parkes (who directly examined the 
> specimen, in his 1952 Cornell PhD dissertation).
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: bounce-125331055-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-125331055-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Larry Scacchetti 
> [larrybird4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:52 AM
> To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk and another state first
> 
> Saturday, Justin Muratore and I located the FEHA on Onion Ave at 8:30 am.  
> The bird circle the field and perched in a tree very close to the road.  It 
> offered amazing looks before heading East over the tree line towards Celery 
> Ave.
> 
> The more amazing bits of the day, for me at least, was the adult subarcticus 
> Great Horned Owl.  This subspecies as far as I can tell hasn’t been in the 
> lower 48 outside of MN.  The bright with GHOW stood out like a sore thumb.  
> We sat there on the side of the road waiting for the line of speeding cars, 
> heading off the the next FEHA sighting, to pass and then we just had this 
> quiet moment watching this unreal visitor from the north.
> 
> Photos of the owl, and hawk, can be seen here :
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Flarrybird13%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cb4f1d0ad83ee48c92fb808d8c1451b49%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637471849851791235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=pvreQtLaGrhVjLDDcF36K%2BNKC%2FpAvkR3T2T9YdHFpSw%3Dreserved=0
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> Good birding,
> 
> Larry Scacchetti
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[nysbirds-l] Queens Yellow-headed Blackbird

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks as always for the excellent post Tom. One thing that I have not seen 
mentioned on this forum is that the Flushing Meadows Yellow-headed Blackbird 
has clearly spent time in captivity. The clean cuts to the flight feathers and 
the cage wear on the tail are classic indicators of a caged bird. I’ve heard 
some mention on other forums of fault bars, this is not what we are seeing. 
Gabriel Willow has some flight shots on his ebird list that show this well 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S73707073

Good birding, Paul

Paul Sweet
Collection Manager
Department of Ornithology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024


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[nysbirds-l] Queens Yellow-headed Blackbird

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks as always for the excellent post Tom. One thing that I have not seen 
mentioned on this forum is that the Flushing Meadows Yellow-headed Blackbird 
has clearly spent time in captivity. The clean cuts to the flight feathers and 
the cage wear on the tail are classic indicators of a caged bird. I’ve heard 
some mention on other forums of fault bars, this is not what we are seeing. 
Gabriel Willow has some flight shots on his ebird list that show this well 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S73707073

Good birding, Paul

Paul Sweet
Collection Manager
Department of Ornithology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024


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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Wilson’s Phalarope at Sagg Pond, Suffolk County

[Paul R Sweet]

Interestingly I saw one yesterday in Falmouth MA (Cape Cod) that has been 
reliably seen for several days. It's not there this morning according to ebird. 
Sagg Pond is 100 mile straight shot down the Elizabeth's and a jump across to 
Montauk. Maybe...

On 9/5/20, 7:37 AM, "bounce-124916897-11471...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of 
Anthony Collerton"  wrote:

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Wilson’s Phalarope at Sagg Pond, Suffolk County

[Paul R Sweet]

Interestingly I saw one yesterday in Falmouth MA (Cape Cod) that has been 
reliably seen for several days. It's not there this morning according to ebird. 
Sagg Pond is 100 mile straight shot down the Elizabeth's and a jump across to 
Montauk. Maybe...

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Anthony Collerton"  wrote:

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

Here’s the link to the Kingbird volume 
https://nybirds.org/KB_IssuesArchive/y1982v32n1.pdf

Also I see you can pick up a used copy of Bull for cheap on Amazon. Well worth 
it.

Paul

From: Carena Pooth 
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:48 AM
To: Robert Lewis ; Paul R Sweet 
Cc: NYSBirds 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

EXTERNAL SENDER

Thanks, Paul.
Bob, NYSARC's historical database goes back to 1977, when NYSARC was 
established.
Carena

On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 08:40:11 AM EDT, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:


Bob

As I mentioned yesterday you should check Bull’s Birds of NY State (Levine 
1998) for historic records. This cites a paper by Spencer (Kingbird 32:2-5) 
that summarizes 30 records. If you don’t have Bull I can send a copy of the 
PUGA account.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Lewis 
> mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> EXTERNAL SENDER
>
>
> Thank you for that resource Carena.
>
> However, I notice that it lists 8 reports of Purple Gallinule.  Yet in the 
> 1998 report it says:
>
> 1998-55-A, One immature on Irondequoit Bay, City of Rochester, Monroe
> Co., on 11 Oct 1998 (Jerry Sullivan). There are more than 35 records of this 
> southern species for New York, involving both adults and immatures. All but 
> six or so previous records are from downstate. Although most frequent in 
> April and May, this species can occur in almost any month of year.
>
> So at that point there were more than 35 records!  Evidently the large 
> majority of records are not included in the NYSARC database.  Where would 
> they be?
>
> Bob Lewis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:33:27 PM EDT, Carena Pooth 
> mailto:car...@prodigy.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> NYSOA’s NYS Avian Records Committee NYSARC) historical database:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.html=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762=V2C4GXBwtDMzmlRM5KxPwpy0c31nD7Hueh%2B%2B6O0CCYU%3D=0<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.html=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cfca9e1b672cd4b7dc49908d81e863058%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292908985383429=KGVmg24raIN4vavCzX1SqjChLHDilfEGfeVsnF7k2zM%3D=0>
>
> Carena Pooth
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 1:39 PM, Paul R Sweet 
>> mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:
>> For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.
>>
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 
>> 5941
>>
>>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis 
>>>> mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in 
>>> New York?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Lewis
>>>
>>> Sleepy Hollow
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762=VLWyCcSvJBETnHhb%2FzGK3vV1ixWH1B15BsKRXdlDF6s%3D=0<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cfca9e1b672cd4b7dc49908d81e863058%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292908985393386=SOurXTc%2BwpQwgd%2BTz7aB8a9qKo%2FzDkWRzk9lNDyw7OU%3D=0>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

Here’s the link to the Kingbird volume 
https://nybirds.org/KB_IssuesArchive/y1982v32n1.pdf

Also I see you can pick up a used copy of Bull for cheap on Amazon. Well worth 
it.

Paul

From: Carena Pooth 
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:48 AM
To: Robert Lewis ; Paul R Sweet 
Cc: NYSBirds 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

EXTERNAL SENDER

Thanks, Paul.
Bob, NYSARC's historical database goes back to 1977, when NYSARC was 
established.
Carena

On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 08:40:11 AM EDT, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:


Bob

As I mentioned yesterday you should check Bull’s Birds of NY State (Levine 
1998) for historic records. This cites a paper by Spencer (Kingbird 32:2-5) 
that summarizes 30 records. If you don’t have Bull I can send a copy of the 
PUGA account.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Lewis 
> mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> EXTERNAL SENDER
>
>
> Thank you for that resource Carena.
>
> However, I notice that it lists 8 reports of Purple Gallinule.  Yet in the 
> 1998 report it says:
>
> 1998-55-A, One immature on Irondequoit Bay, City of Rochester, Monroe
> Co., on 11 Oct 1998 (Jerry Sullivan). There are more than 35 records of this 
> southern species for New York, involving both adults and immatures. All but 
> six or so previous records are from downstate. Although most frequent in 
> April and May, this species can occur in almost any month of year.
>
> So at that point there were more than 35 records!  Evidently the large 
> majority of records are not included in the NYSARC database.  Where would 
> they be?
>
> Bob Lewis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:33:27 PM EDT, Carena Pooth 
> mailto:car...@prodigy.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> NYSOA’s NYS Avian Records Committee NYSARC) historical database:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.html=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762=V2C4GXBwtDMzmlRM5KxPwpy0c31nD7Hueh%2B%2B6O0CCYU%3D=0<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.html=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cfca9e1b672cd4b7dc49908d81e863058%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292908985383429=KGVmg24raIN4vavCzX1SqjChLHDilfEGfeVsnF7k2zM%3D=0>
>
> Carena Pooth
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 1:39 PM, Paul R Sweet 
>> mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:
>> For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.
>>
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 
>> 5941
>>
>>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis 
>>>> mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in 
>>> New York?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Lewis
>>>
>>> Sleepy Hollow
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762=VLWyCcSvJBETnHhb%2FzGK3vV1ixWH1B15BsKRXdlDF6s%3D=0<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Cfca9e1b672cd4b7dc49908d81e863058%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292908985393386=SOurXTc%2BwpQwgd%2BTz7aB8a9qKo%2FzDkWRzk9lNDyw7OU%3D=0>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

Bob

As I mentioned yesterday you should check Bull’s Birds of NY State (Levine 
1998) for historic records. This cites a paper by Spencer (Kingbird 32:2-5) 
that summarizes 30 records. If you don’t have Bull I can send a copy of the 
PUGA account.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Thank you for that resource Carena.
> 
> However, I notice that it lists 8 reports of Purple Gallinule.  Yet in the 
> 1998 report it says:
> 
> 1998-55-A, One immature on Irondequoit Bay, City of Rochester, Monroe
> Co., on 11 Oct 1998 (Jerry Sullivan). There are more than 35 records of this 
> southern species for New York, involving both adults and immatures. All but 
> six or so previous records are from downstate. Although most frequent in 
> April and May, this species can occur in almost any month of year.
> 
> So at that point there were more than 35 records!  Evidently the large 
> majority of records are not included in the NYSARC database.  Where would 
> they be?
> 
> Bob Lewis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:33:27 PM EDT, Carena Pooth 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> NYSOA’s NYS Avian Records Committee NYSARC) historical database:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.htmldata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762sdata=V2C4GXBwtDMzmlRM5KxPwpy0c31nD7Hueh%2B%2B6O0CCYU%3Dreserved=0
> 
> Carena Pooth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 1:39 PM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:
>> For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.
>> 
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 
>> 5941
>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in 
>>> New York?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Lewis
>>> 
>>> Sleepy Hollow
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htmdata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762sdata=VLWyCcSvJBETnHhb%2FzGK3vV1ixWH1B15BsKRXdlDF6s%3Dreserved=0
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>>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

Bob

As I mentioned yesterday you should check Bull’s Birds of NY State (Levine 
1998) for historic records. This cites a paper by Spencer (Kingbird 32:2-5) 
that summarizes 30 records. If you don’t have Bull I can send a copy of the 
PUGA account.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Thank you for that resource Carena.
> 
> However, I notice that it lists 8 reports of Purple Gallinule.  Yet in the 
> 1998 report it says:
> 
> 1998-55-A, One immature on Irondequoit Bay, City of Rochester, Monroe
> Co., on 11 Oct 1998 (Jerry Sullivan). There are more than 35 records of this 
> southern species for New York, involving both adults and immatures. All but 
> six or so previous records are from downstate. Although most frequent in 
> April and May, this species can occur in almost any month of year.
> 
> So at that point there were more than 35 records!  Evidently the large 
> majority of records are not included in the NYSARC database.  Where would 
> they be?
> 
> Bob Lewis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:33:27 PM EDT, Carena Pooth 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> NYSOA’s NYS Avian Records Committee NYSARC) historical database:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnybirds.org%2FNYSARC%2FNYSARCActions.htmldata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762sdata=V2C4GXBwtDMzmlRM5KxPwpy0c31nD7Hueh%2B%2B6O0CCYU%3Dreserved=0
> 
> Carena Pooth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 1:39 PM, Paul R Sweet  wrote:
>> For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.
>> 
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 
>> 5941
>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> EXTERNAL SENDER
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in 
>>> New York?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Lewis
>>> 
>>> Sleepy Hollow
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htmdata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C55fb888341c24f3407a508d81e83c400%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292898591388762sdata=VLWyCcSvJBETnHhb%2FzGK3vV1ixWH1B15BsKRXdlDF6s%3Dreserved=0
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>>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in New 
> York?
> 
> 
> Bob Lewis
> 
> Sleepy Hollow
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htmdata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C78d820592a324520f53508d81de2947c%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292206287061365sdata=YM7e0s%2FoBuJtDry%2FdjKRVlxO2r0PnIxpQN3w30S4whQ%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
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> 
> --

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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

--

Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

[Paul R Sweet]

For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in New 
> York?
> 
> 
> Bob Lewis
> 
> Sleepy Hollow
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htmdata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C78d820592a324520f53508d81de2947c%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637292206287061365sdata=YM7e0s%2FoBuJtDry%2FdjKRVlxO2r0PnIxpQN3w30S4whQ%3Dreserved=0
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> 
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> --

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NYSbirds-L List Info:
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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Please submit your observations to eBird:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] For the present Breeding Bird Survey: MOST UNUSUAL

[Paul R Sweet]

Maybe the DEC can “take care” of this? Breeding Canada Geese in NY are invasive.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:27 PM, "rc...@nyc.rr.com"  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> It will simplify checklists if we have only one species.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-124520169-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
>  On Behalf Of Orhan Birol
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:06 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] For the present Breeding Bird Survey: MOST UNUSUAL
> 
> A pair of Canada Geese confiscated the seventeen year active Osprey nest 
> across the creek, and the late returning Ospreys canot budge them.
> Orhan
> Shelter Island
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.NortheastBirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htmdata=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7Ce218e2fcd9bc45edd30e08d7d8269017%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637215532458607104sdata=zhbCTpUSpZH4Zs01t43nl3ZQHT%2FXMolyBc9pRTU35kY%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> 
> --
> 
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> 

Re: [nysbirds-l] For the present Breeding Bird Survey: MOST UNUSUAL

[Paul R Sweet]

Maybe the DEC can “take care” of this? Breeding Canada Geese in NY are invasive.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:27 PM, "rc...@nyc.rr.com"  wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL SENDER
> 
> 
> It will simplify checklists if we have only one species.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-124520169-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
>  On Behalf Of Orhan Birol
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:06 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] For the present Breeding Bird Survey: MOST UNUSUAL
> 
> A pair of Canada Geese confiscated the seventeen year active Osprey nest 
> across the creek, and the late returning Ospreys canot budge them.
> Orhan
> Shelter Island
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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[nysbirds-l] Photo of female Cerulean Warbler needed

[Paul R Sweet]

Folks. 

My colleague Arturo Kirkconnell is working on a photo guide to the birds of 
Cuba. He lacks female Cerulean Warbler. Does anyone have a good shot that they 
could contribute? Full credit will be given of course.

Please reply OFF LIST

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[nysbirds-l] Photo of female Cerulean Warbler needed

[Paul R Sweet]

Folks. 

My colleague Arturo Kirkconnell is working on a photo guide to the birds of 
Cuba. He lacks female Cerulean Warbler. Does anyone have a good shot that they 
could contribute? Full credit will be given of course.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Chukar Partridge?

[Paul R Sweet]

Maybe the new #hotbird we could start a whole media circus for a charismatic 
escapee? ; )

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My friend took a picture of what we believe is a Chukar Partridge.

He saw it on the SW corner of 3rd and 3rd in Brooklyn a little while ago. 
Corner of whole foods. On the step of the corner building.

Just thought I’d post.


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Chukar Partridge?

[Paul R Sweet]

Maybe the new #hotbird we could start a whole media circus for a charismatic 
escapee? ; )

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My friend took a picture of what we believe is a Chukar Partridge.

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Corner of whole foods. On the step of the corner building.

Just thought I’d post.


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[nysbirds-l] Fire Island report

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On an ATV ride between Watch Hill and Point O’Woods this morning counted at 
least 75 Lesser Black-backed Gull, 2 Brown Pelicans, at least 6 Royal Terns, 
impressive numbers of Sanderlings (500+) and single Piping Plover & Ruddy 
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[nysbirds-l] Fire Island report

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On an ATV ride between Watch Hill and Point O’Woods this morning counted at 
least 75 Lesser Black-backed Gull, 2 Brown Pelicans, at least 6 Royal Terns, 
impressive numbers of Sanderlings (500+) and single Piping Plover & Ruddy 
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[nysbirds-l] Humpback Whales

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Addendum to last post. 2 Humpbacks feeding close to shore at Sag Main beach, 
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[nysbirds-l] Humpback Whales

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Addendum to last post. 2 Humpbacks feeding close to shore at Sag Main beach, 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans - Cupsogue Beach County Park, Suffolk County

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Birding at Sag Main Beach in Southampton and a non-birder told me he saw a 
pelican heading west at about 9:00 am

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> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Michael Yuan  wrote:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans - Cupsogue Beach County Park, Suffolk County

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Birding at Sag Main Beach in Southampton and a non-birder told me he saw a 
pelican heading west at about 9:00 am

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[nysbirds-l] Sooty Shearwater Davis Park, Fire Island

[Paul R Sweet]

In a big fish run (Blues?) with dozens of Laughing Gulls.

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[nysbirds-l] Sooty Shearwater Davis Park, Fire Island

[Paul R Sweet]

In a big fish run (Blues?) with dozens of Laughing Gulls.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI Sage Thrasher

[Paul R Sweet]

I’m at the spot now. Several others have tried with no luck. 

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> On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Richard Guthrie  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI Sage Thrasher

[Paul R Sweet]

I’m at the spot now. Several others have tried with no luck. 

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[nysbirds-l] Sage Thrasher at Watch Hill, Fire Island

[Paul R Sweet]

Just got a report from Deborah Swamback (with photographs) of a Sage Thrasher 
at Watch Hill, Fire Island. The bird was on the ground around the eastern most 
Ranger house, where the path from Davis Park turns towards the Watch Hill 
Marina. Approx (40.6901191, -72.9897355)

Watch Hill is accessible by ferry near the Patchogue LIRR station. Or from 
Davis Park, ferries to Davis Park also run from Patchogue 
https://www.davisparkferry.com/dp-schedule

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[nysbirds-l] Sage Thrasher at Watch Hill, Fire Island

[Paul R Sweet]

Just got a report from Deborah Swamback (with photographs) of a Sage Thrasher 
at Watch Hill, Fire Island. The bird was on the ground around the eastern most 
Ranger house, where the path from Davis Park turns towards the Watch Hill 
Marina. Approx (40.6901191, -72.9897355)

Watch Hill is accessible by ferry near the Patchogue LIRR station. Or from 
Davis Park, ferries to Davis Park also run from Patchogue 
https://www.davisparkferry.com/dp-schedule

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red crossbills, Calverton suffolk county, yes

[Paul R Sweet]

Oops sorry missed the header.

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On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:

Red or White-winged Crossbills?

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
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On Mar 29, 2019, at 11:52 AM, kathy k 
mailto:kath...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Planned on running the trails again this morning with idea of checking for 
Crossbills. Cut run short as bird activity was high. Goldfinch, pine siskens, 
and Crossbills were present, vocal and active. along with chickadees 
red-breasted nuthatches (3+) and a smattering of others. I ran into a fellow 
birder, Mike S. From whom I learned location had been posted to ebird. Between 
the wind and the poor lighting and the constant movements quantifying was 
difficult. I finally reached a high count of 7 Crossbills, when I scoped a 
pine. 5 males, 1 female and 1 possible juv. This last bird was seen only 
briefly via the scope, and appeared entirely gray. I didn’t observe any signs 
of nesting today, except for the possible age of this last bird.

A search for Jones Pond, Calverton on google maps will get you to general 
locale. Take Paumanok Path west which traverses north side of pond. Take note 
of the no hunting signs along the path. When you reach the 3rd sign (in just a 
few minutes) you are in the right area. FYI, the burn extends northward and a 
small loop can be made by heading further west, taking first available right 
turns as they become available. Pine siskens were seen throughout this area. 
You will end up on Schultz Rd again. Walk south to close the loop.

Kathryn Klecan
Ridge, NY



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red crossbills, Calverton suffolk county, yes

[Paul R Sweet]

Oops sorry missed the header.

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On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:

Red or White-winged Crossbills?

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Mar 29, 2019, at 11:52 AM, kathy k 
mailto:kath...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Planned on running the trails again this morning with idea of checking for 
Crossbills. Cut run short as bird activity was high. Goldfinch, pine siskens, 
and Crossbills were present, vocal and active. along with chickadees 
red-breasted nuthatches (3+) and a smattering of others. I ran into a fellow 
birder, Mike S. From whom I learned location had been posted to ebird. Between 
the wind and the poor lighting and the constant movements quantifying was 
difficult. I finally reached a high count of 7 Crossbills, when I scoped a 
pine. 5 males, 1 female and 1 possible juv. This last bird was seen only 
briefly via the scope, and appeared entirely gray. I didn’t observe any signs 
of nesting today, except for the possible age of this last bird.

A search for Jones Pond, Calverton on google maps will get you to general 
locale. Take Paumanok Path west which traverses north side of pond. Take note 
of the no hunting signs along the path. When you reach the 3rd sign (in just a 
few minutes) you are in the right area. FYI, the burn extends northward and a 
small loop can be made by heading further west, taking first available right 
turns as they become available. Pine siskens were seen throughout this area. 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red crossbills, Calverton suffolk county, yes

[Paul R Sweet]

Red or White-winged Crossbills?

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Mar 29, 2019, at 11:52 AM, kathy k 
mailto:kath...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Planned on running the trails again this morning with idea of checking for 
Crossbills. Cut run short as bird activity was high. Goldfinch, pine siskens, 
and Crossbills were present, vocal and active. along with chickadees 
red-breasted nuthatches (3+) and a smattering of others. I ran into a fellow 
birder, Mike S. From whom I learned location had been posted to ebird. Between 
the wind and the poor lighting and the constant movements quantifying was 
difficult. I finally reached a high count of 7 Crossbills, when I scoped a 
pine. 5 males, 1 female and 1 possible juv. This last bird was seen only 
briefly via the scope, and appeared entirely gray. I didn’t observe any signs 
of nesting today, except for the possible age of this last bird.

A search for Jones Pond, Calverton on google maps will get you to general 
locale. Take Paumanok Path west which traverses north side of pond. Take note 
of the no hunting signs along the path. When you reach the 3rd sign (in just a 
few minutes) you are in the right area. FYI, the burn extends northward and a 
small loop can be made by heading further west, taking first available right 
turns as they become available. Pine siskens were seen throughout this area. 
You will end up on Schultz Rd again. Walk south to close the loop.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red crossbills, Calverton suffolk county, yes

[Paul R Sweet]

Red or White-winged Crossbills?

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Mar 29, 2019, at 11:52 AM, kathy k 
mailto:kath...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Planned on running the trails again this morning with idea of checking for 
Crossbills. Cut run short as bird activity was high. Goldfinch, pine siskens, 
and Crossbills were present, vocal and active. along with chickadees 
red-breasted nuthatches (3+) and a smattering of others. I ran into a fellow 
birder, Mike S. From whom I learned location had been posted to ebird. Between 
the wind and the poor lighting and the constant movements quantifying was 
difficult. I finally reached a high count of 7 Crossbills, when I scoped a 
pine. 5 males, 1 female and 1 possible juv. This last bird was seen only 
briefly via the scope, and appeared entirely gray. I didn’t observe any signs 
of nesting today, except for the possible age of this last bird.

A search for Jones Pond, Calverton on google maps will get you to general 
locale. Take Paumanok Path west which traverses north side of pond. Take note 
of the no hunting signs along the path. When you reach the 3rd sign (in just a 
few minutes) you are in the right area. FYI, the burn extends northward and a 
small loop can be made by heading further west, taking first available right 
turns as they become available. Pine siskens were seen throughout this area. 
You will end up on Schultz Rd again. Walk south to close the loop.

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Ridge, NY



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Eastern Long Island Rarities Today

[Paul R Sweet]

If anyone picks this bird up we would like to have the specimen.

Thanks, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:38 PM, David Barrett 
mailto:mil...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Relevant to the COMMON MURRE not being seen at Shinnecock Inlet, Joe Girgente 
today found and photographed a deceased COMMON MURRE to the west of the inlet 
at Triton Beach and reported it on the Queens and Long Island alerts:

https://twitter.com/BirdQueens/status/1085255871377170441

David Barrett
@BirdQueens on Twitter

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:25 PM Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
The Thick-billed Murre at Shinnecock Inlet was in sight from about 8:00 to 9:30 
this morning and then again briefly just after 1:30. At least one Razorbill was 
 in the inlet in the morning, providing closer looks than the Murre. To my 
knowledge, the Common Murre was not seen. 2 or 3 Red-necked Grebes were 
reported at the mouth of the inlet and further out. A bit odd was a Ruddy Duck 
with Common Eiders (where the inlet meets the bay).

The American White Pelican was present for a while in Mecox Bay’s Hayground 
Cove, before flying out around 11:20. I t was best viewed when someone came out 
to feed the swans. It was the only big white bird that stayed put. Without such 
intervention, it can easily be hidden by the many swans, especially if sleeping 
with head and bill tucked in.

With the prospects of better Alcid pictures not looking good as the afternoon 
progressed (none in sight and dimming sun), I decided to do the wild goose 
chase thing. None were visible as I arrived at Doctor’s Path (Riverhead). I 
went over to Northville Turnpike (Rt. 105), where I found a small flock (by 
standards of that area) in the field to the east. The Barnacle Goose was a 
quick find. Within a few minutes, flock after flock and overall huge numbers of 
geese began coming in from a southwest direction, and landing in the large 
field on the west side of 105. A few minutes after that, small groups from the 
east side of 105 (and eventually all of them) joined the larger group. I was 
hoping to photograph the Barnacle flying by. I photographed one random flock to 
test the lighting. Never got the Barnacle, but looking at the pictures when I 
got home revealed a Greater White-fronted Goose (pure dump luck there). 
Possibly, this is the one I saw in the west field and reported to the What’s 
App a few minutes later.


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Eastern Long Island Rarities Today

[Paul R Sweet]

If anyone picks this bird up we would like to have the specimen.

Thanks, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:38 PM, David Barrett 
mailto:mil...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Relevant to the COMMON MURRE not being seen at Shinnecock Inlet, Joe Girgente 
today found and photographed a deceased COMMON MURRE to the west of the inlet 
at Triton Beach and reported it on the Queens and Long Island alerts:

https://twitter.com/BirdQueens/status/1085255871377170441

David Barrett
@BirdQueens on Twitter

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:25 PM Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
The Thick-billed Murre at Shinnecock Inlet was in sight from about 8:00 to 9:30 
this morning and then again briefly just after 1:30. At least one Razorbill was 
 in the inlet in the morning, providing closer looks than the Murre. To my 
knowledge, the Common Murre was not seen. 2 or 3 Red-necked Grebes were 
reported at the mouth of the inlet and further out. A bit odd was a Ruddy Duck 
with Common Eiders (where the inlet meets the bay).

The American White Pelican was present for a while in Mecox Bay’s Hayground 
Cove, before flying out around 11:20. I t was best viewed when someone came out 
to feed the swans. It was the only big white bird that stayed put. Without such 
intervention, it can easily be hidden by the many swans, especially if sleeping 
with head and bill tucked in.

With the prospects of better Alcid pictures not looking good as the afternoon 
progressed (none in sight and dimming sun), I decided to do the wild goose 
chase thing. None were visible as I arrived at Doctor’s Path (Riverhead). I 
went over to Northville Turnpike (Rt. 105), where I found a small flock (by 
standards of that area) in the field to the east. The Barnacle Goose was a 
quick find. Within a few minutes, flock after flock and overall huge numbers of 
geese began coming in from a southwest direction, and landing in the large 
field on the west side of 105. A few minutes after that, small groups from the 
east side of 105 (and eventually all of them) joined the larger group. I was 
hoping to photograph the Barnacle flying by. I photographed one random flock to 
test the lighting. Never got the Barnacle, but looking at the pictures when I 
got home revealed a Greater White-fronted Goose (pure dump luck there). 
Possibly, this is the one I saw in the west field and reported to the What’s 
App a few minutes later.


Steve Walter
Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Presumed Hybrid Shorebird at Jamaica Bay

[Paul R Sweet]

A mere peep would be inadequate. We should not stint in this analysis.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Grover, Bob 
mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:

Take a peep? That’s precious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Steve,

Whenever, I see “hybrid” in any reports I am always tempted to immediately take 
a peep. Despite looking at the images from the field on my phone I have to 
respectfully disagree with the “presumed” hybrid call on the bird you 
referenced.

This to me, is just a Semipalmated Sandpiper (SESA). I agree it is  a tad 
heavily marked below but nothing in the structure or bill is suggestive of a 
Western hybrid with a SESA.

I certainly claim no expertise; however, my time having Semipalmated Sandpipers 
in the hand and field observations, I have learned to appreciate variation in 
plumage and size. The plumage on this bird in my opinion is within the range of 
just a straight up Semipalmated Sandpiper.

When I have a chance, I will take a look on a bigger screen and perhaps provide 
more details.

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

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(") _ (")
Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

I’ve posted pictures of an interesting Calidris sandpiper that has been on the 
East Pond at Jamaica Bay. It was first photographed by Peter Post on Saturday 
and observed by Kevin Karlson (co-author of The Shorebird Guide). I was able to 
relocate and photograph the bird on Sunday, then discuss it with Kevin. He’s of 
the opinion that it’s a hybrid between Western and Semipalmated Sandpipers. In 
simplest terms, he described it as having the upperparts of a Semipalmated and 
the underparts of a Western. The bird is extensively marked underneath, not 
only along the flanks, but on the belly. Semipalmated would never be like that. 
And actually, neither species should be so extensively marked this late. The 
bill looks like that of a Semipalmated, while the head shows a squared look 
more typical of a Western. Pictures can be seen at my web site 
http://stevewalternature.com/
  under Birds, Recent Work.

For the record, other weekend birds at Jamaica Bay other than the much 
ballyhooed Hudsonian Godwit, include 1 Caspian Tern on the pond Saturday and 2 
fly bys Sunday, at least one juvenile Western Sandpiper both days, many 
White-rumped Sandpipers, and Stilt Sandpiper now starting to appear in the 
juvenile form. A Common Raven was seen by many, soaring over the visitor center 
Saturday.

The water level is decidedly on the high side, but there’s enough room for 
birds and people. Getting to the raunt requires walking through water in 
places. Note that the safest passage is sometimes well away from the edge of 
the pond. There are two deeper puddles that reach the phragmites in the 
southeast corner. Do not walk along their edges. And also watch out for the 
Salt Marsh Fleabane, if you can. These plants are in full bloom now and adding 
a touch of beauty to the pond. And if you pay close enough attention to the 
bright pink flowers, you just might be rewarded with the sight of a Salt Marsh 
Skipper.


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Presumed Hybrid Shorebird at Jamaica Bay

[Paul R Sweet]

A mere peep would be inadequate. We should not stint in this analysis.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Grover, Bob 
mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:

Take a peep? That’s precious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Steve,

Whenever, I see “hybrid” in any reports I am always tempted to immediately take 
a peep. Despite looking at the images from the field on my phone I have to 
respectfully disagree with the “presumed” hybrid call on the bird you 
referenced.

This to me, is just a Semipalmated Sandpiper (SESA). I agree it is  a tad 
heavily marked below but nothing in the structure or bill is suggestive of a 
Western hybrid with a SESA.

I certainly claim no expertise; however, my time having Semipalmated Sandpipers 
in the hand and field observations, I have learned to appreciate variation in 
plumage and size. The plumage on this bird in my opinion is within the range of 
just a straight up Semipalmated Sandpiper.

When I have a chance, I will take a look on a bigger screen and perhaps provide 
more details.

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

(\__/)
(= '.'=)
(") _ (")
Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

I’ve posted pictures of an interesting Calidris sandpiper that has been on the 
East Pond at Jamaica Bay. It was first photographed by Peter Post on Saturday 
and observed by Kevin Karlson (co-author of The Shorebird Guide). I was able to 
relocate and photograph the bird on Sunday, then discuss it with Kevin. He’s of 
the opinion that it’s a hybrid between Western and Semipalmated Sandpipers. In 
simplest terms, he described it as having the upperparts of a Semipalmated and 
the underparts of a Western. The bird is extensively marked underneath, not 
only along the flanks, but on the belly. Semipalmated would never be like that. 
And actually, neither species should be so extensively marked this late. The 
bill looks like that of a Semipalmated, while the head shows a squared look 
more typical of a Western. Pictures can be seen at my web site 
http://stevewalternature.com/
  under Birds, Recent Work.

For the record, other weekend birds at Jamaica Bay other than the much 
ballyhooed Hudsonian Godwit, include 1 Caspian Tern on the pond Saturday and 2 
fly bys Sunday, at least one juvenile Western Sandpiper both days, many 
White-rumped Sandpipers, and Stilt Sandpiper now starting to appear in the 
juvenile form. A Common Raven was seen by many, soaring over the visitor center 
Saturday.

The water level is decidedly on the high side, but there’s enough room for 
birds and people. Getting to the raunt requires walking through water in 
places. Note that the safest passage is sometimes well away from the edge of 
the pond. There are two deeper puddles that reach the phragmites in the 
southeast corner. Do not walk along their edges. And also watch out for the 
Salt Marsh Fleabane, if you can. These plants are in full bloom now and adding 
a touch of beauty to the pond. And if you pay close enough attention to the 
bright pink flowers, you just might be rewarded with the sight of a Salt Marsh 
Skipper.


Steve Walter
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[nysbirds-l] Watch Hill report

[Paul R Sweet]

An overnight camping trip to the beach east of Watch Hill, Fire Island yielded 
good numbers of shorebirds.

Sanderling - 1000 (conservative estimate)
Red Knot - 11 on beach
Ruddy Turnstone - 6 on beach 
Whimbrel - 10, flock of 8 flying west along ocean, 2 on beach
Willet - 10 (at least)
Semipalmated Sandpipers - many small flocks up to 30 birds moving west along 
ocean front but not stopping 
Black-bellied Plover - 16
Semipalmated Plover - 2
Oystercatcher - 1
Greater Yellowlegs - 4 in salt marsh

Also on the ocean several Royal Terns, one Forster’s along with Common & Least.

On the beach at least 6 Lesser Black-backed Gulls along with the usual Great 
Black-backed, Herring, Ring-billed & Laughing.

A single hen Common Eider on the ocean was surprising.

This wonderful location is accessible by ferry from Patchogue, either to Davis 
Park or Watch Hill. As well as miles of virtually empty beach there are great 
boardwalks through salt marsh at Watch Hill. Wilderness camping (no amenities) 
is available by permit from the Parks Dept website.

Happy Summer.

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[nysbirds-l] Watch Hill report

[Paul R Sweet]

An overnight camping trip to the beach east of Watch Hill, Fire Island yielded 
good numbers of shorebirds.

Sanderling - 1000 (conservative estimate)
Red Knot - 11 on beach
Ruddy Turnstone - 6 on beach 
Whimbrel - 10, flock of 8 flying west along ocean, 2 on beach
Willet - 10 (at least)
Semipalmated Sandpipers - many small flocks up to 30 birds moving west along 
ocean front but not stopping 
Black-bellied Plover - 16
Semipalmated Plover - 2
Oystercatcher - 1
Greater Yellowlegs - 4 in salt marsh

Also on the ocean several Royal Terns, one Forster’s along with Common & Least.

On the beach at least 6 Lesser Black-backed Gulls along with the usual Great 
Black-backed, Herring, Ring-billed & Laughing.

A single hen Common Eider on the ocean was surprising.

This wonderful location is accessible by ferry from Patchogue, either to Davis 
Park or Watch Hill. As well as miles of virtually empty beach there are great 
boardwalks through salt marsh at Watch Hill. Wilderness camping (no amenities) 
is available by permit from the Parks Dept website.

Happy Summer.

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Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Osprey Harassed by drone-Shelter Island

[Paul R Sweet]

Report to NY state DEC and USFWS law enforcement. This is illegal under the 
Migratory Bird Treaty Act

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On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:47 AM, K C Bailey 
> wrote:

So very sorry everyone to be off-topic, but I need your thoughts. It’s come to 
my attention that an amateur is flying a drone within 10-15 feet of a nesting 
pair of osprey.  Here’s the link to the video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhcvFXjlb3S/?taken-by=scotts_island_photos

All your thoughts would be greatly appreciate. Again, thank you for your time.

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[Paul R Sweet]

Report to NY state DEC and USFWS law enforcement. This is illegal under the 
Migratory Bird Treaty Act

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On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:47 AM, K C Bailey 
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So very sorry everyone to be off-topic, but I need your thoughts. It’s come to 
my attention that an amateur is flying a drone within 10-15 feet of a nesting 
pair of osprey.  Here’s the link to the video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhcvFXjlb3S/?taken-by=scotts_island_photos

All your thoughts would be greatly appreciate. Again, thank you for your time.

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[nysbirds-l] Pink-footed Goose Deep Hollow Ranch

[Paul R Sweet]

Apologies I should have said south side of highway.  

Pink-footed Goose currently with Canadas and 2 Snows at Deep Hollow Ranch, 
Montauk. For those who don’t know this is on the north side of the highway on 
the way from Montauk town to the point. Park at Amsterdam Beach lot.

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[nysbirds-l] Pink-footed Goose Deep Hollow Ranch

[Paul R Sweet]

Apologies I should have said south side of highway.  

Pink-footed Goose currently with Canadas and 2 Snows at Deep Hollow Ranch, 
Montauk. For those who don’t know this is on the north side of the highway on 
the way from Montauk town to the point. Park at Amsterdam Beach lot.

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[nysbirds-l] Pink-footed Goose Deep Hollow Ranch

[Paul R Sweet]

Pink-footed Goose currently with Canadas and 2 Snows at Deep Hollow Ranch, 
Montauk. For those who don’t know this is on the north side of the highway on 
the way from Montauk town to the point. Park at Amsterdam Beach lot.

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[nysbirds-l] Pink-footed Goose Deep Hollow Ranch

[Paul R Sweet]

Pink-footed Goose currently with Canadas and 2 Snows at Deep Hollow Ranch, 
Montauk. For those who don’t know this is on the north side of the highway on 
the way from Montauk town to the point. Park at Amsterdam Beach lot.

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[nysbirds-l] Another Long Island Purple Gallinule (not chaseable)

[Paul R Sweet]

A routine trip to collect salvaged birds from a Long Island rehabber yielded 
Long Island's 3rd Purple Gallinule of the winter. This new specimen was picked 
up on 14 January in Rockville Centre and died 2 days later

As a reminder the other birds were 13 January Manorville, 16 January 
Southampton.

Details will be submitted to NYSARC

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[nysbirds-l] Another Long Island Purple Gallinule (not chaseable)

[Paul R Sweet]

A routine trip to collect salvaged birds from a Long Island rehabber yielded 
Long Island's 3rd Purple Gallinule of the winter. This new specimen was picked 
up on 14 January in Rockville Centre and died 2 days later

As a reminder the other birds were 13 January Manorville, 16 January 
Southampton.

Details will be submitted to NYSARC

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[nysbirds-l] Purple Gallinules Long Island

[Paul R Sweet]

While not chaseable I thought it worth sharing the news about TWO Purple 
Gallinules in Suffolk County, both deceased. One was found yesterday in 
Southampton, I've seen images and it's an adult. The second is at a rehabber 
and I'm awaiting details.

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[nysbirds-l] Purple Gallinules Long Island

[Paul R Sweet]

While not chaseable I thought it worth sharing the news about TWO Purple 
Gallinules in Suffolk County, both deceased. One was found yesterday in 
Southampton, I've seen images and it's an adult. The second is at a rehabber 
and I'm awaiting details.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Missing posts?

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Check your Junk folder? I regularly find NYSBIRDS-L messages in mine

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From: bounce-122150389-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122150389-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Angus Wilson
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I've noticed that I regularly miss posts to this list, especially local 
rarities. The latest was the note from Brendan Fogarty copied in Ben Cacece's 
hot spot post.

Curious, are others experiencing the same problem? Could this be related to 
messages being cc'd to the list rather than posted directly? Have not noticed 
gaps in direct conversations. Not seeing the missing messages in other folders.
Not the end of the world but seems like another factor in the increasingly 
fragmented dissemination of noteworthy bird sightings in our region. We, as a 
community, need to come up with a simple solution that does not require a 
deluge of eBird alert notifications or subscriptions to many local and 
statewide lists and facebook groups. It's ironic but I feel less clued in now 
than I did 5 years ago. Back to the weekly RBA to find out what I've missed?
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Check your Junk folder? I regularly find NYSBIRDS-L messages in mine

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From: bounce-122150389-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122150389-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Angus Wilson
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:12 PM
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Missing posts?

I've noticed that I regularly miss posts to this list, especially local 
rarities. The latest was the note from Brendan Fogarty copied in Ben Cacece's 
hot spot post.

Curious, are others experiencing the same problem? Could this be related to 
messages being cc'd to the list rather than posted directly? Have not noticed 
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Not the end of the world but seems like another factor in the increasingly 
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community, need to come up with a simple solution that does not require a 
deluge of eBird alert notifications or subscriptions to many local and 
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RE:[nysbirds-l] Corncrake data for those interested

[Paul R Sweet]

Apologies just noticed a typo the weight was 110g

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Several people have asked about cause of death. The bird was clearly hit by a 
car with a fractures in both hind limbs and the pelvis.

Jonas Lai has skinned the bird and we have obtained the following data.
The bird was a male with testes 5 x 2.5 mm
It weighed 100g which is rather light for this species. Published weights range 
from 135-210 g ((Handbook of the Birds of Europe the Middle East and North 
Africa). There was no fat but the pectoral muscles did not appear atrophied.
Stomach contained tiny insect parts which have been persevered but not 
identified.
A moderate parasite load of Acanthocephalans was identified by AMNH 
parasitologists Mark Siddall and Michael Tessler


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RE:[nysbirds-l] Corncrake data for those interested

[Paul R Sweet]

Apologies just noticed a typo the weight was 110g

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Several people have asked about cause of death. The bird was clearly hit by a 
car with a fractures in both hind limbs and the pelvis.

Jonas Lai has skinned the bird and we have obtained the following data.
The bird was a male with testes 5 x 2.5 mm
It weighed 100g which is rather light for this species. Published weights range 
from 135-210 g ((Handbook of the Birds of Europe the Middle East and North 
Africa). There was no fat but the pectoral muscles did not appear atrophied.
Stomach contained tiny insect parts which have been persevered but not 
identified.
A moderate parasite load of Acanthocephalans was identified by AMNH 
parasitologists Mark Siddall and Michael Tessler


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[nysbirds-l] Corncrake data for those interested

[Paul R Sweet]

Several people have asked about cause of death. The bird was clearly hit by a 
car with a fractures in both hind limbs and the pelvis.

Jonas Lai has skinned the bird and we have obtained the following data.
The bird was a male with testes 5 x 2.5 mm
It weighed 100g which is rather light for this species. Published weights range 
from 135-210 g ((Handbook of the Birds of Europe the Middle East and North 
Africa). There was no fat but the pectoral muscles did not appear atrophied.
Stomach contained tiny insect parts which have been persevered but not 
identified.
A moderate parasite load of Acanthocephalans was identified by AMNH 
parasitologists Mark Siddall and Michael Tessler


Paul Sweet
Collection Manager
Department of Ornithology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024

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Cell: 718 757 5941
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[nysbirds-l] Corncrake data for those interested

[Paul R Sweet]

Several people have asked about cause of death. The bird was clearly hit by a 
car with a fractures in both hind limbs and the pelvis.

Jonas Lai has skinned the bird and we have obtained the following data.
The bird was a male with testes 5 x 2.5 mm
It weighed 100g which is rather light for this species. Published weights range 
from 135-210 g ((Handbook of the Birds of Europe the Middle East and North 
Africa). There was no fat but the pectoral muscles did not appear atrophied.
Stomach contained tiny insect parts which have been persevered but not 
identified.
A moderate parasite load of Acanthocephalans was identified by AMNH 
parasitologists Mark Siddall and Michael Tessler


Paul Sweet
Collection Manager
Department of Ornithology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024

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Re: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Great thanks.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:27 AM, Patricia Lindsay 
<pjlind...@optonline.net<mailto:pjlind...@optonline.net>> wrote:

Shai and i are on our way - if its there we'll get it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Paul R Sweet 
<sw...@amnh.org<mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:

Did anyone collect the carcass? Was it roadkilled? Even if damaged we can still 
obtain useful data from this specimen.

Thanks, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Grover, Bob 
<rgro...@gpinet.com<mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:

Sad news indeed to hear about our old world visitor.  Thanks to everyone who 
posted updates and to the several locals who left me voice mails and off list 
emails, and to Ken T., who facilitated my brief but satisfying looks as I was 
rushing between meetings.  Of course, Corn Crake is already on the NYSOA list, 
but the license plates I noted from 5 states as I pulled away yesterday are a 
testament to its specialness.
I believe a toast to this cool little bird will be in order tonight at the 
Brightwaters Thursday night watering hole.



Bob Grover
d +1 (631) 761-7369 | c +1 (516) 318-8536
An Equal Opportunity Employer


From: 
bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu>
 [mailto:bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. 
Tessaglia-Hymes
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:38 AM
To: Scott Gilbert <scottgilber...@gmail.com<mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>>
Cc: suefeus...@optonline.net<mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>; NYSBIRDS-L 
<nysbird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

This is unfortunate news for such a phenomenal bird – and for birders traveling 
to see this individual.

Thought I’d make this topic more obvious in the subject.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:29 AM, Scott Gilbert 
<scottgilber...@gmail.com<mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
<suefeus...@optonline.net<mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

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Re: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Great thanks.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:27 AM, Patricia Lindsay 
mailto:pjlind...@optonline.net>> wrote:

Shai and i are on our way - if its there we'll get it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:

Did anyone collect the carcass? Was it roadkilled? Even if damaged we can still 
obtain useful data from this specimen.

Thanks, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Grover, Bob 
mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:

Sad news indeed to hear about our old world visitor.  Thanks to everyone who 
posted updates and to the several locals who left me voice mails and off list 
emails, and to Ken T., who facilitated my brief but satisfying looks as I was 
rushing between meetings.  Of course, Corn Crake is already on the NYSOA list, 
but the license plates I noted from 5 states as I pulled away yesterday are a 
testament to its specialness.
I believe a toast to this cool little bird will be in order tonight at the 
Brightwaters Thursday night watering hole.



Bob Grover
d +1 (631) 761-7369 | c +1 (516) 318-8536
An Equal Opportunity Employer


From: 
bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu>
 [mailto:bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. 
Tessaglia-Hymes
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:38 AM
To: Scott Gilbert mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>>
Cc: suefeus...@optonline.net<mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>; NYSBIRDS-L 
mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

This is unfortunate news for such a phenomenal bird – and for birders traveling 
to see this individual.

Thought I’d make this topic more obvious in the subject.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:29 AM, Scott Gilbert 
mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Did anyone collect the carcass? Was it roadkilled? Even if damaged we can still 
obtain useful data from this specimen.

Thanks, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Grover, Bob 
> wrote:

Sad news indeed to hear about our old world visitor.  Thanks to everyone who 
posted updates and to the several locals who left me voice mails and off list 
emails, and to Ken T., who facilitated my brief but satisfying looks as I was 
rushing between meetings.  Of course, Corn Crake is already on the NYSOA list, 
but the license plates I noted from 5 states as I pulled away yesterday are a 
testament to its specialness.
I believe a toast to this cool little bird will be in order tonight at the 
Brightwaters Thursday night watering hole.



Bob Grover
d +1 (631) 761-7369 | c +1 (516) 318-8536
An Equal Opportunity Employer


From: 
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 [mailto:bounce-122034547-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. 
Tessaglia-Hymes
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:38 AM
To: Scott Gilbert >
Cc: suefeus...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L 
>
Subject: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

This is unfortunate news for such a phenomenal bird – and for birders traveling 
to see this individual.

Thought I’d make this topic more obvious in the subject.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:29 AM, Scott Gilbert 
> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

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Re: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Did anyone collect the carcass? Was it roadkilled? Even if damaged we can still 
obtain useful data from this specimen.

Thanks, Paul

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Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Grover, Bob 
mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:

Sad news indeed to hear about our old world visitor.  Thanks to everyone who 
posted updates and to the several locals who left me voice mails and off list 
emails, and to Ken T., who facilitated my brief but satisfying looks as I was 
rushing between meetings.  Of course, Corn Crake is already on the NYSOA list, 
but the license plates I noted from 5 states as I pulled away yesterday are a 
testament to its specialness.
I believe a toast to this cool little bird will be in order tonight at the 
Brightwaters Thursday night watering hole.



Bob Grover
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Subject: DECEASED - Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

This is unfortunate news for such a phenomenal bird – and for birders traveling 
to see this individual.

Thought I’d make this topic more obvious in the subject.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:29 AM, Scott Gilbert 
mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Please collect the bird and we can figure out a way to get it to the museum. 
This is an important specimen. We have all necessary permits. Thanks. Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Scott Gilbert 
> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake at Cedar Beach (Suffolk Co.)

[Paul R Sweet]

Please collect the bird and we can figure out a way to get it to the museum. 
This is an important specimen. We have all necessary permits. Thanks. Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Scott Gilbert 
mailto:scottgilber...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately, I am sad to report Corn Crake found deceased in same location 
this A.M. 6:25 by other birders.

On Nov 7, 2017 11:44 AM, 
mailto:suefeus...@optonline.net>> wrote:
A Corn Crake (this is no joke) is currently feeding on the north shoulder of 
the Ocean Parkway east of the Cedar Beach marina. The bird is staying close to 
the shrubline. From the west bound lane line up the Cedar Overlook cell tower 
to your left. Also, there is a south facing “Emergency Stopping Only” sign on 
the north side of the parkway. Sue and I are watching the bird with Shai Mitra 
and Pat Lindsay. Photos later on my Flickr site.

Ken @ Sue Feustel

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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI Corn Crake situation

[Paul R Sweet]

When I was there this morning state troopers were moving birders from the 
median. Just so everyone understands the situation, there is a 2 lane highway 
with cars moving very quickly between the median and the crake.

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On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Nick Bonomo 
> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wanted to clarify something based on words of caution posted here and on 
other listservs.

Though cops are clearing parked cars from the highway, are birders allowed to 
stand nearby to observe the bird? I’m considering an attempt today but wouldn’t 
bother if my only shot is a “drive-by” look.

Thanks
Nick

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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI Corn Crake situation

[Paul R Sweet]

When I was there this morning state troopers were moving birders from the 
median. Just so everyone understands the situation, there is a 2 lane highway 
with cars moving very quickly between the median and the crake.

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Nick Bonomo 
mailto:nbon...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wanted to clarify something based on words of caution posted here and on 
other listservs.

Though cops are clearing parked cars from the highway, are birders allowed to 
stand nearby to observe the bird? I’m considering an attempt today but wouldn’t 
bother if my only shot is a “drive-by” look.

Thanks
Nick

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Paul R Sweet]

This from colleague in NC.

202 birds were picked up in Brunswick County (southernmost county in NC) 
between 13 June and 3 July.  The bulk of the birds brought to area rehabbers 
came in between 17-19 June.  Almost all died shortly after arrival.  I know 
other rehabbers on the coast also received many birds around 16 June or so, but 
I haven't been in touch with them for further details.

Ebird also shows high counts on NC coast for the 18th of June. For example 155 
at Fort Macon State Park.

From: Michael Schrimpf [mailto:michael.schri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:30 AM
To: Paul R Sweet <sw...@amnh.org>
Cc: Tshrike19 <tshrik...@aol.com>; NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu; john_stan...@fws.gov
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and 
Starving - The New York Times

Interesting...I'm curious how the timing of the NC wreck compared to the one in 
NY - was it also within a day or two, and was it close to Jun 18th?

In thinking about this, and in speaking with Joe when he was writing the NY 
Times article, I brought up the need for good baseline data. Based on the 
scattered reports of wrecks over the years, it seems that Great Shearwaters 
washing ashore in noticeable numbers is not that unusual on the East Coast - 
but there are several questions we can't answer without more data:

1) Is this a normal amount of mortality for the northward migration?

2) If so, are there reasons why sometimes the birds are closer to the coast, 
allowing us to detect the weak individuals as they hit the beaches?

3) If this is higher than normal mortality, do these periodic wrecks coincide 
with oceanographic patterns, either locally or remotely?

4) For comparison, what is the rate of beached Great Shearwaters when we don't 
see them coming ashore in a large pulse?


The data in the Haman et al. paper I linked to in a previous thread give us a 
good starting point, but they only refer to 'wrecks', and only go up to 2011, 
so any patterns in the last few years are a mystery.

We could start answering these questions if we had a system of regular beach 
monitoring up and down the Eastern Seaboard - a program like that exists in the 
West (the 
COASST<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdepts.washington.edu%2Fcoasst%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C0d251349ecd5406e65d408d4d36157b7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=mIYvLmC4rp9%2F83%2FN6wCbtEgIl0W4z4RzJza9KvzVOqA%3D=0>
 program), which I interacted with closely while I was doing my master's work 
at the University of Washington. A similar program used to exist here 
(SEANET<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvet.tufts.edu%2Fseanet%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C0d251349ecd5406e65d408d4d36157b7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=37A73GvxK6Tag2aCOYgXOOUdsV399qa3pPyAp6TyW2o%3D=0>),
 but has since been put on hold due to lack of funding/interest. I contacted 
the director, Julie Ellis, who told me that John Stanton at USFWS (cc'ed) is 
hoping to continue SEANET. If there's anyone out there interested in helping 
with that effort, it would go a long way towards collecting some of these data.


Cheers,
Michael




On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Paul R Sweet 
<sw...@amnh.org<mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:
As a post-script to the Great Shearwater story, a colleague from the North 
Carolina Museum informed me that the wreck extended to that state. One rehabber 
there took in 80 birds.

From: 
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[mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu>]
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To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu<mailto:NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving 
- The New York Times

Hi All,

As Derek mentioned in a previous post, the coastal low pressure system that set 
up from the night of the 6/17 through the 19th, resulted in a strong and 
persistent onshore wind, as well as strong gusts.  This system resulted in 
strong southeast flow from new England all the way to key west (I was there at 
the time), these conditions can certainly help concentrate seabirds inshore 
where they are typically more scarce.   In addition, as also mentioned, there 
is an abundance of bait offshore.  Many of the charter and head boat captains 
I've chatted with (in NJ though) have mentioned the abundance of sand eels 
offshore, with fluke being caught on some of the Montauk boats spitting up sand 
eels on deck and some of the charters going for tuna seeing bait balls of sand 
eels.It's probable that large numbers of Shearwaters were already offshore 
due to food availability with the weather system helping to concentrate them 
inshore.   If so much food is available offshore, why does it appear many are 
st

RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Paul R Sweet]

This from colleague in NC.

202 birds were picked up in Brunswick County (southernmost county in NC) 
between 13 June and 3 July.  The bulk of the birds brought to area rehabbers 
came in between 17-19 June.  Almost all died shortly after arrival.  I know 
other rehabbers on the coast also received many birds around 16 June or so, but 
I haven't been in touch with them for further details.

Ebird also shows high counts on NC coast for the 18th of June. For example 155 
at Fort Macon State Park.

From: Michael Schrimpf [mailto:michael.schri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:30 AM
To: Paul R Sweet 
Cc: Tshrike19 ; NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu; john_stan...@fws.gov
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and 
Starving - The New York Times

Interesting...I'm curious how the timing of the NC wreck compared to the one in 
NY - was it also within a day or two, and was it close to Jun 18th?

In thinking about this, and in speaking with Joe when he was writing the NY 
Times article, I brought up the need for good baseline data. Based on the 
scattered reports of wrecks over the years, it seems that Great Shearwaters 
washing ashore in noticeable numbers is not that unusual on the East Coast - 
but there are several questions we can't answer without more data:

1) Is this a normal amount of mortality for the northward migration?

2) If so, are there reasons why sometimes the birds are closer to the coast, 
allowing us to detect the weak individuals as they hit the beaches?

3) If this is higher than normal mortality, do these periodic wrecks coincide 
with oceanographic patterns, either locally or remotely?

4) For comparison, what is the rate of beached Great Shearwaters when we don't 
see them coming ashore in a large pulse?


The data in the Haman et al. paper I linked to in a previous thread give us a 
good starting point, but they only refer to 'wrecks', and only go up to 2011, 
so any patterns in the last few years are a mystery.

We could start answering these questions if we had a system of regular beach 
monitoring up and down the Eastern Seaboard - a program like that exists in the 
West (the 
COASST<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdepts.washington.edu%2Fcoasst%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C0d251349ecd5406e65d408d4d36157b7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=mIYvLmC4rp9%2F83%2FN6wCbtEgIl0W4z4RzJza9KvzVOqA%3D=0>
 program), which I interacted with closely while I was doing my master's work 
at the University of Washington. A similar program used to exist here 
(SEANET<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvet.tufts.edu%2Fseanet%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C0d251349ecd5406e65d408d4d36157b7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=37A73GvxK6Tag2aCOYgXOOUdsV399qa3pPyAp6TyW2o%3D=0>),
 but has since been put on hold due to lack of funding/interest. I contacted 
the director, Julie Ellis, who told me that John Stanton at USFWS (cc'ed) is 
hoping to continue SEANET. If there's anyone out there interested in helping 
with that effort, it would go a long way towards collecting some of these data.


Cheers,
Michael




On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Paul R Sweet 
mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> wrote:
As a post-script to the Great Shearwater story, a colleague from the North 
Carolina Museum informed me that the wreck extended to that state. One rehabber 
there took in 80 birds.

From: 
bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu>
 
[mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu>]
 On Behalf Of Tshrike19
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:49 PM
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu<mailto:NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving 
- The New York Times

Hi All,

As Derek mentioned in a previous post, the coastal low pressure system that set 
up from the night of the 6/17 through the 19th, resulted in a strong and 
persistent onshore wind, as well as strong gusts.  This system resulted in 
strong southeast flow from new England all the way to key west (I was there at 
the time), these conditions can certainly help concentrate seabirds inshore 
where they are typically more scarce.   In addition, as also mentioned, there 
is an abundance of bait offshore.  Many of the charter and head boat captains 
I've chatted with (in NJ though) have mentioned the abundance of sand eels 
offshore, with fluke being caught on some of the Montauk boats spitting up sand 
eels on deck and some of the charters going for tuna seeing bait balls of sand 
eels.It's probable that large numbers of Shearwaters were already offshore 
due to food availability with the weather system helping to concentrate them 
inshore.   If so much food is available offshore, why does it appear many are 
starving is a question though, and we can only speculate as to what 

RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Paul R Sweet]

As a post-script to the Great Shearwater story, a colleague from the North 
Carolina Museum informed me that the wreck extended to that state. One rehabber 
there took in 80 birds.

From: bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tshrike19
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:49 PM
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving 
- The New York Times

Hi All,

As Derek mentioned in a previous post, the coastal low pressure system that set 
up from the night of the 6/17 through the 19th, resulted in a strong and 
persistent onshore wind, as well as strong gusts.  This system resulted in 
strong southeast flow from new England all the way to key west (I was there at 
the time), these conditions can certainly help concentrate seabirds inshore 
where they are typically more scarce.   In addition, as also mentioned, there 
is an abundance of bait offshore.  Many of the charter and head boat captains 
I've chatted with (in NJ though) have mentioned the abundance of sand eels 
offshore, with fluke being caught on some of the Montauk boats spitting up sand 
eels on deck and some of the charters going for tuna seeing bait balls of sand 
eels.It's probable that large numbers of Shearwaters were already offshore 
due to food availability with the weather system helping to concentrate them 
inshore.   If so much food is available offshore, why does it appear many are 
starving is a question though, and we can only speculate as to what may be 
causing this.   Perhaps some of these birds arrived in the NY Bight in bad 
shape already and didn't have the energy to actively forage (sick from a virus, 
toxin load from algae??).  Was anyone able to age the birds they were finding 
dead, or will the folks who are receiving the dead shearwaters be able to 
provide an age breakdown?  Mortality tends to be high in first of year birds, 
if there was a high percentage of young birds in this unusual concentration off 
long Island it wouldn't be unusual finding a number of dead birds (with an 
onshore wind to bring the dead and dying to shore).   A fact of nature is that 
seabirds sometimes wreck in large numbers, it's been happening long before we 
were around.

tom brown

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Paul R Sweet]

As a post-script to the Great Shearwater story, a colleague from the North 
Carolina Museum informed me that the wreck extended to that state. One rehabber 
there took in 80 birds.

From: bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121663379-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tshrike19
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:49 PM
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving 
- The New York Times

Hi All,

As Derek mentioned in a previous post, the coastal low pressure system that set 
up from the night of the 6/17 through the 19th, resulted in a strong and 
persistent onshore wind, as well as strong gusts.  This system resulted in 
strong southeast flow from new England all the way to key west (I was there at 
the time), these conditions can certainly help concentrate seabirds inshore 
where they are typically more scarce.   In addition, as also mentioned, there 
is an abundance of bait offshore.  Many of the charter and head boat captains 
I've chatted with (in NJ though) have mentioned the abundance of sand eels 
offshore, with fluke being caught on some of the Montauk boats spitting up sand 
eels on deck and some of the charters going for tuna seeing bait balls of sand 
eels.It's probable that large numbers of Shearwaters were already offshore 
due to food availability with the weather system helping to concentrate them 
inshore.   If so much food is available offshore, why does it appear many are 
starving is a question though, and we can only speculate as to what may be 
causing this.   Perhaps some of these birds arrived in the NY Bight in bad 
shape already and didn't have the energy to actively forage (sick from a virus, 
toxin load from algae??).  Was anyone able to age the birds they were finding 
dead, or will the folks who are receiving the dead shearwaters be able to 
provide an age breakdown?  Mortality tends to be high in first of year birds, 
if there was a high percentage of young birds in this unusual concentration off 
long Island it wouldn't be unusual finding a number of dead birds (with an 
onshore wind to bring the dead and dying to shore).   A fact of nature is that 
seabirds sometimes wreck in large numbers, it's been happening long before we 
were around.

tom brown

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge Shorebirds and East Pond update...

[Paul R Sweet]

Very cool!

From: bounce-121675089-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121675089-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Elbin
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Andrew Baksh 
Cc: nysbirds-l ; Nyc ebirds 
; Charles Clarkson ; Debra 
Kriensky 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge Shorebirds and East Pond 
update...

Hi Andrew and all,
We just received notification from the Banding Lab and want to thank you for 
reporting your resighting of the Glossy Ibis 1116-50056 (also known as 049).

In case others are curious: that bird was banded as a pre-fledged chick by our 
team (NYC Audubon) on 17 June 2010 on Canarsie Pol, Jamaica Bay. This bird is 
seven years old. How incredibly exciting -- especially considering that you 
(Andrew) reported a Glossy Ibis from that same cohort last year at the East 
Pond.
Good birding,

Susan


Susan B. Elbin, Ph.D.
Director of Conservation and Science
New York City Audubon
71 West 23rd St.
New York, NY 10010
212-691-7483, ext 305
direct line: 646-434-0421
cell phone: 973-216-1941
www.nycaudubon.org

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Andrew Baksh 
> wrote:
I birded the East Pond for a few hours today testing access along the north end 
and getting in some shorebirding.

An estimated 300 Shorebirds on the East Pond consisting of 8 species. The 
highlights included LONG-BILLED DOWITCHER (1), STILT SANDPIPERS (21). All 
feeding comfortably just past "Dead Man's Cove."

Here is a link to a digiscoped shot of today's LBDO 
https://flic.kr/p/VJ86Xz

Non shorebirding highlight was 1 adult GULL-BILLED TERN.

On the West Pond, it was quiet with single Spotted and Least Sandpipers 
observed.

Thank you to all who either called in or wrote to NPS, expressing your concerns 
regarding the "fence situation" on the East Pond South End. As I have stated in 
an earlier e-mail, NPS is aware and working towards a resolution.

Don Riepe, the Mundys and I are working together in pushing for a resolution. 
This includes both a short term fix and hopefully a long term solution. I will 
keep everyone posted as we make progress.

In other East Pond news, the water level continue to drop. Hopefully, within a 
week or two shoreline will open up on the North End for easier access. I keep 
folks updated on that situation as well.

Keep the faith and thank you all for your patience.


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge Shorebirds and East Pond update...

[Paul R Sweet]

Very cool!

From: bounce-121675089-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121675089-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Elbin
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Andrew Baksh 
Cc: nysbirds-l ; Nyc ebirds 
; Charles Clarkson ; Debra 
Kriensky 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge Shorebirds and East Pond 
update...

Hi Andrew and all,
We just received notification from the Banding Lab and want to thank you for 
reporting your resighting of the Glossy Ibis 1116-50056 (also known as 049).

In case others are curious: that bird was banded as a pre-fledged chick by our 
team (NYC Audubon) on 17 June 2010 on Canarsie Pol, Jamaica Bay. This bird is 
seven years old. How incredibly exciting -- especially considering that you 
(Andrew) reported a Glossy Ibis from that same cohort last year at the East 
Pond.
Good birding,

Susan


Susan B. Elbin, Ph.D.
Director of Conservation and Science
New York City Audubon
71 West 23rd St.
New York, NY 10010
212-691-7483, ext 305
direct line: 646-434-0421
cell phone: 973-216-1941
www.nycaudubon.org

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I birded the East Pond for a few hours today testing access along the north end 
and getting in some shorebirding.

An estimated 300 Shorebirds on the East Pond consisting of 8 species. The 
highlights included LONG-BILLED DOWITCHER (1), STILT SANDPIPERS (21). All 
feeding comfortably just past "Dead Man's Cove."

Here is a link to a digiscoped shot of today's LBDO 
https://flic.kr/p/VJ86Xz

Non shorebirding highlight was 1 adult GULL-BILLED TERN.

On the West Pond, it was quiet with single Spotted and Least Sandpipers 
observed.

Thank you to all who either called in or wrote to NPS, expressing your concerns 
regarding the "fence situation" on the East Pond South End. As I have stated in 
an earlier e-mail, NPS is aware and working towards a resolution.

Don Riepe, the Mundys and I are working together in pushing for a resolution. 
This includes both a short term fix and hopefully a long term solution. I will 
keep everyone posted as we make progress.

In other East Pond news, the water level continue to drop. Hopefully, within a 
week or two shoreline will open up on the North End for easier access. I keep 
folks updated on that situation as well.

Keep the faith and thank you all for your patience.


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

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(") _ (")
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks Donna

Didn't realize the on line checklist had rolling updates prior to publication 
of the supplement. I see Northern Harrier has been split from Hen and Northern 
Shrike from Great Grey.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Donna Schulman 
<queensgir...@gmail.com<mailto:queensgir...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Paul,

So far, the Supplement has not been published, but the checklist reflects 
decisions: 
http://checklist.aou.org/taxa/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchecklist.aou.org%2Ftaxa%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C91ea32f035ab4b70b35408d4c08f69b4%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=YOWMRH2%2BF9tkUeEAd1EJpDWdXoipGL6roWuB4da02z4%3D=0>

As Brendan Fogarty pointed out on Facebook, Thayer's Gull is gone, Red 
Crossbill and Magnificent Hummingbird have been split, and there are some 
taxonomic changes. I think we're all waiting to see if that is the final word 
or if more will be coming.

Donna Schulman

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On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Paul R Sweet 
sw...@amnh.org<mailto:sw...@amnh.org> [ebirdsnyc] 
<ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> 
wrote:


Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchecklist.aou.org%2Fnacc%2Fproposals%2Fcurrent_proposals.html=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C91ea32f035ab4b70b35408d4c08f69b4%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=abH3oa5i5jyzKWBpHRGPQBT8KZ4W6j4brTxbsjaAHXg%3D=0>
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780<tel:(212)%20769-5780> 
| Mob 718 757 5941<tel:(718)%20757-5941>

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
<birdingd...@gmail.com<mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ofo.ca%2Fsite%2Fpage%2Fview%2Farticles.thayer=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C1c3bb5b25ce645f0ae8b08d4c07a49c3%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=6%2FvcUHSI0lMDRQFQzzbHH2eHTXKlfktpFMmyXPZIKCk%3D=0>


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Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frefspace.com%2Fquotes%2FSun_Tzu=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C1c3bb5b25ce645f0ae8b08d4c07a49c3%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=pzOKCFgQSP0nFaIaSYwtVd8iMzLXmbuVWfoTUI9ok2I%3D=0>
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Thanks Donna

Didn't realize the on line checklist had rolling updates prior to publication 
of the supplement. I see Northern Harrier has been split from Hen and Northern 
Shrike from Great Grey.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Donna Schulman 
mailto:queensgir...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Paul,

So far, the Supplement has not been published, but the checklist reflects 
decisions: 
http://checklist.aou.org/taxa/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchecklist.aou.org%2Ftaxa%2F=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C91ea32f035ab4b70b35408d4c08f69b4%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=YOWMRH2%2BF9tkUeEAd1EJpDWdXoipGL6roWuB4da02z4%3D=0>

As Brendan Fogarty pointed out on Facebook, Thayer's Gull is gone, Red 
Crossbill and Magnificent Hummingbird have been split, and there are some 
taxonomic changes. I think we're all waiting to see if that is the final word 
or if more will be coming.

Donna Schulman

---
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Forest Hills, NY
queensgir...@gmail.com<mailto:queensgir...@gmail.com>



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On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Paul R Sweet 
sw...@amnh.org<mailto:sw...@amnh.org> [ebirdsnyc] 
mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> 
wrote:


Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchecklist.aou.org%2Fnacc%2Fproposals%2Fcurrent_proposals.html=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C91ea32f035ab4b70b35408d4c08f69b4%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0=abH3oa5i5jyzKWBpHRGPQBT8KZ4W6j4brTxbsjaAHXg%3D=0>
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 
| Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

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Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
War

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Thayer's Gull - the species that never was?

[Paul R Sweet]

Hi Andrew

I've seen the proposals 
http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/current_proposals.html
But your post indicates the votes have been cast. Is this posted? Curious about 
decision on other splits - Yellow-rump, Willet, Harrier, Junco etc.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | 
Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

By now some of you have already heard that the AOU has taken the decision to 
invalidate Thayer's Gull.

A bit of background: Considered a subspecies of the Herring Gull by the AOU 
until 1973. Thayer's Gull, received full species status based largely on the 
research of A.H. Macpherson and Neil Smith in the 1960's. Smith's work which 
suggested Thayer's and Kumlien's Gulls mated as separate species on Baffin 
Island was viewed with much skepticism and this decision by the AOU appears to 
debunk his claim.

Ron Pittaway, a respected authority on this subject has published an excellent 
account of the history of this taxonomical debate and is worth reading for 
those interested.

http://www.ofo.ca/site/page/view/articles.thayer


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun 
Tzu
  The Art of 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Brown Booby is deceased

[Paul R Sweet]

Please find a way to get this to AMNH. I'm currently in Alaska you can contact 
Peter Capainolo or Tom Trombone. Contact info on AMNH website. Thanks. I 
believe this will be our 2nd NY Brown Bobby. Paul

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