Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Dear All, Thanks for the interest.  The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the animal too also thought Kinkajou.  I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou from the descriptive pictures online.  The prehensile tail

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Joseph O'Sullivan
Have the reviewers at ebird accepted it yet? On Friday, August 14, 2015, Mike wrote: > Now we know what was clogging the valve > > Mike > Ridge NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett > wrote: > > > Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Now we know what was clogging the valve Mike Ridge NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett wrote: > Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. > Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it > in another

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
ubject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. Afte

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Carol Holmes
Would the Wildlife Conservation Society (Bronx Zoo) be of any help? Or might that result in more trouble than it's worth? Carol Holmes -Original Message- From: Rob Jett To: NYSBirds Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:49 pm Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet

RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
tence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: John Laver To: NYS Birds Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK.  Or, more likely, it might

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread John Laver
existence for Man." Thomas > Lovejoy > > -- > *From:* Paul R Sweet > *To:* "trhindre...@gmail.com" > *Cc:* Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L < > nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> > *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM > *Subject:* Re: [nys

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Guthrie
es or > people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas > Lovejoy > > -- > *From:* Paul R Sweet > *To:* "trhindre...@gmail.com" > *Cc:* Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L < > nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> > *Sent:* Friday, August 14

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
eet ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
ndre...@gmail.com" > Cc: Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay > East Pond Trail > > Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. >

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
om" Cc: Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees.  http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view

RE: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
ndress mailto:trhindre...@gmail.com>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet mailto:sw...@amnh.org>> Cc: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>>, NYSBIRDS-L mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illega

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Meredith, Leslie
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, "Thomas

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Rhindress
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY --

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Gabriel Willow
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail, which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet wrote: > Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! > > Paul > > From: Cesar Castillo > Reply-To: Cesar Castillo > Date: Friday,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>> Reply-To: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM To: NYSBIRDS-L mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Nadine Scarpa
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to escape from predators. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of > the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems to be a an

RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Carol Holmes
:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: John Laver eart...@gmail.com To: NYS Birds nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
, August 14, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org wrote: Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Cesar

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
...@gmail.com Cc: Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail An exotic animal veterinarian suggested

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Guthrie
Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet sw...@amnh.org Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com, NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae. Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread John Laver
...@amnh.org *To:* trhindre...@gmail.com trhindre...@gmail.com *Cc:* Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Nadine Scarpa
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to escape from predators. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM To: NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edumailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Rhindress
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY --

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Meredith, Leslie
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Thomas

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Gabriel Willow
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail, which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
trhindre...@gmail.com Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Now we know what was clogging the valve Mike Ridge NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net wrote: Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Dear All, Thanks for the interest.  The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the animal too also thought Kinkajou.  I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou from the descriptive pictures online.  The prehensile tail