[oauth] 2-legged OAuth spec

2010-03-26 Thread John Kristian
Where's the latest specification of two-legged OAuth?  The last one I
saw was 
http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/spec/ext/consumer_request/1.0/drafts/2/spec.html
But I wonder if there's a newer one.  At IETF, perhaps?

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[oauth] Re: 400/401 Questions

2010-03-26 Thread John Kristian
You might find it helpful to add some diagnostic information to the
response; for example http://oauth.pbworks.com/ProblemReporting

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[oauth] Re: Signature Invalid and Token Rejected Errors-Yahoo Oauth Social API using Javascript, Getting contacts from Yahoo using Social API by OAUTH

2010-03-26 Thread Anil
Hi Vinod,

Much Appreciated if you pls provide us with the sample Java code to
get the Yahoo Contacts using Yahoo Contacts API.

Thanks
Anil


On Feb 13, 10:51 pm, Vinod facebook vinod.faceb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

            I dunno how oauth in javascript works. I implemented oauth in
 Java and I faced the same signature invalid issue. I broke my head for about
 2 weeks before I found a solution. Anyways this was the problem. I was
 running my app on a box which was sitting behind an apache webserver
 machine. So when I send out requests for any end point, the opensocial
 container used to sign the requests with my public IP address and while
 verifying the response from my end, the IP with which I would be signing was
 my local server's which was sitting behind my apache. Hence there was a
 mismatch and it used to fire the signature invalid exception everytime.
 After finding this out, I fixed the issue by replacing the IP in my oauth
 message with that of my public IP before I do a validation. Now it works
 like a charm. Hope this helps :)

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Test test@gmail.com wrote:
  After referring so many threads from Google and Yahoo, I was not able
  to get an accurate/correct/exact answer/solution/fix for the
  signature_invalid problem which i am also facing.
                                In those threads most of the samples
  for OAuth application were in JAVA,C#  and Perl languages.But I wanted
  it working in Javascript. Though I found the sample code from
 http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/- still it was not
  that much clear to get the contacts of a user from Yahoo Social API. I
  followed the exact steps of OAuth too. After struggling for one week I
  am posting this thread out of frustration.I just needed a full fledged
  working sample or example of Getting contacts from Yahoo using OAuth
  in JS.Wherever I searched the Signature and Token Issues for Yahoo
  OAUTH, I was not able to get a complete answer.

  Even I tried the simple CURL command to GET/POST a request for Yahoo
  Social API. There too I was getting the same error,

  When I tried with https://social.yahooapis.com/v1/user/+guid+/
  contacts; I am getting Connection timed Out or Connection to the host
  lost.
  I am not sure why Yahoo Social API is not returning the exact error
  response as I got signature_invalid and token_rejected errors for mere
  API calls.

  Is there any solutions or suggestions atleast for gettting it work??

  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks
  Test SCF

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[oauth] Re: Updating my Twitter status programmatically.

2010-03-26 Thread Grantcv1
I've finally mastered OAuth! I think that someone not integrally tied
to the OAuth project should write a tutorial about it - someone
unencumbered by the history of the project that can focus on just what
you need to know. The biggest problem for me was reading the spec
which just didn't present the information in the way that my brain
learns. Right now, I think that implementing OAuth rather than basic
authentication is a daunting choice. With one, your efforts are
trivial while the other can mean days of struggles. Get something
wrong, and nothing works with hardly anything to go on. It takes lots
of patience to find the problems.

While I started with some libraries I found out there, I ended up
doing my own consumer-side (client-side) implementation simply because
I needed a framework for understanding what was happening going back
and forth. If I have time, I might release my implementation. It is
mostly written in JavaScript and handles the complete dance, starting
with the consumer key, through to the request token, verifier code,
and finally winds up with the access token given out by twitter.

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[oauth] Google oAuth Access Token Longevity

2010-03-26 Thread Gary Young
I'm building an oAuth app that integrates with Contacts, and Gmail and
everything is working correctly, except that the oAuth access tokens
that I'm generating seem to only last 1 day.

I was under the impression that oAuth access tokens should last
indefinitely as long as they are not revoked by the user or my
application.

Can someone shed some light on this?

Thanks!

Gary

webnexsys.com

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[oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread Adam
We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail, but do
not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to login
users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to retrieve
user data?

I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it matters.

Thanks.

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Re: [oauth] Google oAuth Access Token Longevity

2010-03-26 Thread Paul Lindner
Token duration is a policy decision.  Each site decides on what they will
grant.  For example at LinkedIn we give the user the option of one day, one
week, one year, or until revoked.  To help partners we are planning on
adding some of the OAuth
Sessionhttp://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/spec/ext/session/1.0/drafts/1/spec.html
parameters
to our responses, specifically oauth_expires_in

Obviously apps need to be able to handle expired tokens, since the user can
revoke them at any time.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Gary Young gary.b.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm building an oAuth app that integrates with Contacts, and Gmail and
 everything is working correctly, except that the oAuth access tokens
 that I'm generating seem to only last 1 day.

 I was under the impression that oAuth access tokens should last
 indefinitely as long as they are not revoked by the user or my
 application.

 Can someone shed some light on this?

 Thanks!

 Gary

 webnexsys.com

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Re: [oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread Chris Messina
OAuth can be used as a bastardized mechanism to do SSO, but it's not really
recommended.

OAuth only provides you with tokens, which could later be revoked,
effectively destroying the identity that you're relying on.

OpenID is the preferred way to achieve SSO because it provides you with a
stable, reusable identifier.

Twitter uses OAuth for SSO, but it's really kind of a mis-use of the
technology, although in practice it kind of solves the problem.

Essentially OpenID provides you with identity; OAuth provides you
authorization to do things on behalf of a user. Since you're doing something
on behalf of a user, you get a kind of temporary identity to do stuff but
it's much more fragile than OpenID.

Why don't you want to do OpenID?

Chris

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Adam apcau...@gmail.com wrote:

 We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail, but do
 not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to login
 users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to retrieve
 user data?

 I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it matters.

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Re: [oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread Paul Lindner
If a site has an api that returns a stable user identifier then OAuth can
work fine as an SSO.  I wouldn't go so far as to call it bastardized..

The big difference between OpenID and OAuth is the idiom used.  OpenID is
designed to not require prior registration for use -- multiple relying
parties and providers can interoperate using URLs and attribute exchange.
 With OAuth you need a consumer key/secret for your site, and the APIs for
attribute exchange change from provider to provider.


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.comwrote:

 OAuth can be used as a bastardized mechanism to do SSO, but it's not really
 recommended.

 OAuth only provides you with tokens, which could later be revoked,
 effectively destroying the identity that you're relying on.

 OpenID is the preferred way to achieve SSO because it provides you with a
 stable, reusable identifier.

 Twitter uses OAuth for SSO, but it's really kind of a mis-use of the
 technology, although in practice it kind of solves the problem.

 Essentially OpenID provides you with identity; OAuth provides you
 authorization to do things on behalf of a user. Since you're doing something
 on behalf of a user, you get a kind of temporary identity to do stuff but
 it's much more fragile than OpenID.

 Why don't you want to do OpenID?

 Chris


 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Adam apcau...@gmail.com wrote:

 We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail, but do
 not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to login
 users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to retrieve
 user data?

 I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it matters.

 Thanks.

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Re: [oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread Ashish Jain
This is worth exploring further at the next OpenID Summit (assuming there is
interest). RPs that we talk to have overlapping use cases and it's not fair
to their developers to have completely independent SDKs (different signing
mechanism, on boarding process etc).
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Winch rwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you haven't seen this post, it may be of interest
 http://hueniverse.com/2009/04/introducing-sign-in-with-twitter-oauth-style-connect/


 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Lindner lind...@inuus.com wrote:

 If a site has an api that returns a stable user identifier then OAuth can
 work fine as an SSO.  I wouldn't go so far as to call it bastardized..

 The big difference between OpenID and OAuth is the idiom used.  OpenID is
 designed to not require prior registration for use -- multiple relying
 parties and providers can interoperate using URLs and attribute exchange.
  With OAuth you need a consumer key/secret for your site, and the APIs for
 attribute exchange change from provider to provider.


 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chris Messina 
 chris.mess...@gmail.comwrote:

 OAuth can be used as a bastardized mechanism to do SSO, but it's not
 really recommended.

 OAuth only provides you with tokens, which could later be revoked,
 effectively destroying the identity that you're relying on.

 OpenID is the preferred way to achieve SSO because it provides you with a
 stable, reusable identifier.

 Twitter uses OAuth for SSO, but it's really kind of a mis-use of the
 technology, although in practice it kind of solves the problem.

 Essentially OpenID provides you with identity; OAuth provides you
 authorization to do things on behalf of a user. Since you're doing something
 on behalf of a user, you get a kind of temporary identity to do stuff but
 it's much more fragile than OpenID.

 Why don't you want to do OpenID?

 Chris


 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Adam apcau...@gmail.com wrote:

 We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail, but do
 not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to login
 users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to retrieve
 user data?

 I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it matters.

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Re: [oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread David Recordon
Agreed.  There's a bunch of interesting things that could be done to
bring OpenID and OAuth closer together.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Ashish Jain iti...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is worth exploring further at the next OpenID Summit (assuming there is
 interest). RPs that we talk to have overlapping use cases and it's not fair
 to their developers to have completely independent SDKs (different signing
 mechanism, on boarding process etc).
 -Ashish

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 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Winch rwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you haven't seen this post, it may be of interest
 http://hueniverse.com/2009/04/introducing-sign-in-with-twitter-oauth-style-connect/

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Lindner lind...@inuus.com wrote:

 If a site has an api that returns a stable user identifier then OAuth can
 work fine as an SSO.  I wouldn't go so far as to call it bastardized..
 The big difference between OpenID and OAuth is the idiom used.  OpenID is
 designed to not require prior registration for use -- multiple relying
 parties and providers can interoperate using URLs and attribute exchange.
  With OAuth you need a consumer key/secret for your site, and the APIs for
 attribute exchange change from provider to provider.

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OAuth can be used as a bastardized mechanism to do SSO, but it's not
 really recommended.
 OAuth only provides you with tokens, which could later be revoked,
 effectively destroying the identity that you're relying on.
 OpenID is the preferred way to achieve SSO because it provides you with
 a stable, reusable identifier.
 Twitter uses OAuth for SSO, but it's really kind of a mis-use of the
 technology, although in practice it kind of solves the problem.
 Essentially OpenID provides you with identity; OAuth provides you
 authorization to do things on behalf of a user. Since you're doing 
 something
 on behalf of a user, you get a kind of temporary identity to do stuff but
 it's much more fragile than OpenID.
 Why don't you want to do OpenID?
 Chris

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Adam apcau...@gmail.com wrote:

 We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail, but do
 not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to login
 users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to retrieve
 user data?

 I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it matters.

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Re: [oauth] Using OAuth as SSO

2010-03-26 Thread Chris Messina
I do agree with that. But it is important to recognize where each came  
from, and what problems each respectively sought to address.


Narrowing the divide between the two and making it easier to use both  
together is something I'm absolutely in favor of.


Sent from my iPhone 2G

On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:19 PM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote:


Agreed.  There's a bunch of interesting things that could be done to
bring OpenID and OAuth closer together.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Ashish Jain iti...@gmail.com wrote:
This is worth exploring further at the next OpenID Summit (assuming  
there is
interest). RPs that we talk to have overlapping use cases and it's  
not fair
to their developers to have completely independent SDKs (different  
signing

mechanism, on boarding process etc).
-Ashish

---

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Sr. Product Manager, PayPal Identity Services

email: ashish.j...@paypal.com

cell: 303-548-4325

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On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Winch rwi...@gmail.com  
wrote:


If you haven't seen this post, it may be of interest
http://hueniverse.com/2009/04/introducing-sign-in-with-twitter-oauth-style-connect/

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Lindner lind...@inuus.com  
wrote:


If a site has an api that returns a stable user identifier then  
OAuth can
work fine as an SSO.  I wouldn't go so far as to call it  
bastardized..
The big difference between OpenID and OAuth is the idiom used.   
OpenID is
designed to not require prior registration for use -- multiple  
relying
parties and providers can interoperate using URLs and attribute  
exchange.
 With OAuth you need a consumer key/secret for your site, and the  
APIs for

attribute exchange change from provider to provider.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chris Messina chris.mess...@gmail.com 


wrote:


OAuth can be used as a bastardized mechanism to do SSO, but it's  
not

really recommended.
OAuth only provides you with tokens, which could later be revoked,
effectively destroying the identity that you're relying on.
OpenID is the preferred way to achieve SSO because it provides  
you with

a stable, reusable identifier.
Twitter uses OAuth for SSO, but it's really kind of a mis-use of  
the

technology, although in practice it kind of solves the problem.
Essentially OpenID provides you with identity; OAuth provides you
authorization to do things on behalf of a user. Since you're  
doing something
on behalf of a user, you get a kind of temporary identity to do  
stuff but

it's much more fragile than OpenID.
Why don't you want to do OpenID?
Chris

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Adam apcau...@gmail.com wrote:


We currently use CAS for SSO.  I'd like to have SSO into gmail,  
but do
not want to switch to OpenID.  Is it possible to use OAuth to  
login
users into their gmail accounts?  Or is OAuth only meant to  
retrieve

user data?

I am currently using SignPost to connect to OAuth... if it  
matters.


Thanks.

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