Re: [Winona] Chucker's and a Public Servant

2000-10-29 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] If ever there was an argument for lowering the drinking age back to 18, or at least 19, this raid provides it. According to the WDN none of the arrested minors were less than 18 years old. One can assume that most if not all were students at one of Winona's

Re: [Winona] election 2000

2000-11-09 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Yes, i most certainly think he should. Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please sign all messages posted to this list with your actual

Re: [Winona] Democratic Involvement

2000-11-11 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Apparently the folks in Florida already agree with your fifth point. -:) Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please sign all messages

Re: [Winona] RE: Election

2000-11-11 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Gene, I don't think i made the point, inadvertently or otherwise FOR the electoral college. I tried to summarize in a few paragraphs a much larger paper i wrote on the subject for a class at WSU which addressed all the pros and cons of the EC, and then laid out a

Re: [Winona] Gene Thiele's Points

2000-11-14 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] The ballot used in Palm Beach County, and perhaps elsewhere in Florida, was apparently in violation of Florida's own election laws. The law states the the "box" to mark shall be placed "to the right of the candidate's name". (See Minneapolis Star Tribune, Monday, 13

Re: [Winona] Paul Olberding's Commments On Voting

2000-11-14 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Karen; Interesting questions. I would be interested in some sort of survey or poll of nonvoter to find out why people don't vote. This information could then be used in some way to increase the turnout in future elections by address the concerns of nonvoter rather

Re: [Winona] Democratic Involvement

2000-11-15 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Cherisa; Interesting ideas. I know when i voted last week there were many young SMU students in line to vote. Most of them were not registered and we were all waiting in one queue extending out of the church and into the parking lot until an election judge finally

RE: [Winona] Gene Thiele's Points

2000-11-15 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Regarding your first two points; 1) How many times have you or anyone else received a "sample ballot" in the mail and even bothered to look at it before chucking it in the trash? I know that we got a sample ballot here a few days before the election (granted from

Re: [Winona] The Courts and The Election Results

2000-11-16 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Dwayne; As always you raise some interesting points. But to answer just your last question, perhaps meant to be rhetorical, Yes i do. Dean This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to

Re: [Winona] Re-vote

2000-11-16 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Michael; To address two of your concerns about a re-vote: First) It would be fairly easy to make sure that a person who didn't vote on the 7th would not be allowed to vote in a re-vote. When you vote you have to sign the voting register right? So if your name is not

Re: [Winona] Our own house - Election Procedures

2000-11-29 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] I moved back to Winona this past April after living the last eight years in St. Paul and i can say without hesitation that there is not enough difference between the voting equipment used there and that used here to justify any sort of use of tax monies if all we are

Re: [Winona] One vote----

2000-12-18 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Cherisa; Excellent points ~ as usual Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please sign all messages posted to this list with your actual

Re: [Winona] One vote----

2000-12-23 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] What is really laughable is that ANYONE can look at the shit that went down in Florida and with a straight face say that Dubbya deserves to be President. D. Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit

RE: [Winona] What Is A Conservative?

2001-01-07 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Both good examples. Here in Winona i have encountered many people would i would call liberal who have done tremendous work to help make things better for the poor and disadvantaged around the world ~ and in our community ~ and a good many of those come to their

Re: [Winona] Quality of Life

2001-01-26 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] 1. A safe caring community 2. Peace, quiet and aesthetically beautiful 3. Opportunities for quality education. 4. Affordable cost of living 5. Quality health care options 6. Technology accessability 7. Recreational diversity 8. Mobility to airports How many of the

Re: Fw: [Winona] What Issues are Important to You?

2001-01-28 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Strong famailies are important to any community, of course. But let us not become too parochiol so that we only define a "family" as a two-parent, two-gender household with one or more biological children as seems to be the want of many people and organizations who

Re: [Winona] Mime-Version: 1.0

2001-02-27 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] These are exactly the sorts of problems the government should be helping people out with in the face of a budget surplus. As Mr. Henzel points out, as individuals we can not do much to alleviate these problems with our rebates, even assuming most people would want

Re: [Winona] re Mime-Version: 1.0 (tax protest0

2001-02-27 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Well said! This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please sign all messages posted to this list with your actual name. Posting of commercial

Re: [Winona] TESTS

2001-03-02 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] I would like to echo some of Dr. Davis' points here. In the legal field as well, there seems to be little correlation between scores on the LSAT (the test used to determine admittance into law schools) and actual performance in law school. Also, if the education field

Re: [Winona] The Pledge of Allegiance

2001-03-09 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] They are wonderful documents. And one of the great things about them is they are there to help protect us from having others ideas of what is orthodox forced upon us unwillingly. Dean A. Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy

Re: [Winona] Freedom From Censorship in Minnesota Public Schools Act HF1028

2001-03-09 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Legal avenues? The Bill of rights is being attacked daily by the supposedly Liberal Supreme Court (as many conservatives would tell you). The 1st Amendment maybe secure now but with Dubbya at the helm I Really doubt it will remain that way. Often, times the ones

Re: [Winona] From a teens point of view...

2001-03-15 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Good post girls. I agree completely. I think your points on expense and religious based activities really needs to be addressed. At a meeting i attended recently, Mayor Miller said repeatedly that "parents have no idea what their kids are up to". Although, i

Re: [Winona] united way and boy scouts

2001-03-23 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Bob. Yes you did! Dean Lanz VIce-chair, Winona Human Rights Commission This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please sign all messages posted to this

Re: [Winona] united way and boy scouts

2001-03-24 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Terry you seem to want it both ways. You say what the Boy Scouts is doing, i.e. their discrimination of gays, is legal. Of course you are right on that count. (Although i personally find their finding that the boy scouts are a "private" organization ~ especially in

Re: [Winona] Scouting

2001-04-03 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Ed Thompson wrote "It is intended primarily as a character-building program". Please don't take this personally Ed because it seems to me that you do not agree with the ban on gays, but just how does maintaing a discriminatory, homophobic policy on gay boys and men

Re: [Winona] Scouting

2001-04-03 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Ed; I do think you made some valid points, such as the idea of changing from the inside, and again i want to emphasize that i am not attacking you personally, however there is also honor in refusing to participate at any level in an evil. Personally, i think the

RE: [Winona] China

2001-04-05 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Personally if i had to chose between Maureen Dowd and Henry Kissinger i'd go with Ms Dowd. I wouldn't belive two words that came out of the mouth of ANYONE who served one day in the administration of Richard Milhouse Nixon ~ especially Kissinger. Like it says on the

Re: [Winona] Recent Newspaper Letters

2001-04-05 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Anyone else getting depressed by the overwhelming ignorance and hatred being spewed forth by recent letters to the editors verbally bashing gays and lesbians? Yes, Lori, i for one am very depressed by them. On the other hand, i expceted that kind of response,

[Winona] yesterday's mail

2001-04-17 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Not to re-open old wounds, but i just wanted to share a rather disturbing piece of mail (snail mail) i received recently. In an envelope addressed to me with no return address and postmarked in Rochester (all Winona mail goes through the Rochester office to be

Re: [Winona] Gore v Bush

2001-04-18 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] In a message dated Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:54:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "James Fahrenbach" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Winona Online Democracy] Does this mean Winona will be overturning the results of the 2000 election? Let's hope so! This message

Re: [Winona] Congratulations to Teachers and Staff at Winona Area Public Schools

2001-04-24 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Shouldn't the Daily Snooze at least if not the Post, which can hardly be considered a legitimate newspaper have an obligation to keep their eye open for news stories from other sources that effect Winona? This message was posted to the Winona Online

RE: [Winona] Sick leave -- acting like the two rats?

2001-05-09 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Sick days, like all other benefits in an employer/employee contract, are part of the salary one recieves for working for that employer. As such the employee is entilted to them. To quote Mr. Spock of Star Trek fame, where's the logic of granting sick days and then

Re: [Winona] Art Center

2001-05-19 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Cindy; I assume you meant too bad the Arts Center is NOT handicapped accessuble? I agree completly! Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [Winona] thoughts on school violence

2001-05-30 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Or a third option could be to pay attention secure in the knowledge that what may seem irrelevant to one at 17 or 18 may prove to be very relevant later in life? Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit

Re: [Winona] School budget

2001-05-30 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Ed, et. al. I never meant to imply that i thought Catholic or other private schools offer a better education than public schools. I am a product of public schools and a graduate of a state university (albeit also a graduate of a private law school), furthermore my

Re: [Winona] thoughts on school violence

2001-06-01 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Andrew; Ok, here is an answer to your question from an adult perspective: As an attorney, i have had to pass through a metal detector several times before entering court and have my materials x-rayed similar to at an airport. Is it an inconvience? Yes, but in light of

Re: [Winona] an adults perspective of search

2001-06-04 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Mr. Thompson seems to return to his one overriding theme here, that the change of violence happening at any given school is rare and therefore there is little or no need for security. I wonder how many students in Littleton, Colorado felt that way until one fateful

Re: [Winona] thoughts on school violence [Zero Tolerance]

2001-06-04 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Dwayne; While i respect your vigilance in protecting our individual rights and freedoms i must reiterate my earlier position. Individual rights, as much as we may which them to be, are not absolute, nor do they exist in a vacuum. It is an old cliché, but one worth

Re: [Winona] Old Middle School Auditorium Effort

2001-06-21 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Correct me if i'm wrong here, but wasn't one of the reasons for building a new middle school due to the failing infrastructure of the old builiding? Including, if memory serves, a need at one point to shut up an auditorium due to falling celling tiles? A community

[Winona] alcohol to minors

2001-06-26 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Some time back,around about the time of graduation parties, there was some discussion regarding the legality of parents serving alcohol to thier own kids. After much research I have come across the definitive answer to that question. (In truth i stumbled upon at work

Re: Fw: [Winona] alcohol to minors

2001-06-27 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Pam; I totally agree, with one minor exception: I think the drinking age should be returned to 18 (although i would willing agree to 19.) Dean This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit

RE: [Winona] alcohol to minors

2001-06-28 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Could we please NOT use the list to make personal attacks on other members or their families? Dean Lanz This message was posted to the Winona Online Democracy Project. Please visit http://onlinedemocracy.winona.org to subscribe or unsubscribe. Please

Re: [Winona] No News is Good News

2001-11-15 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Ok Phil, i'll risk opening a new can of worms and present a new issue. Let me introduce it with a rhetorical question; Why does Mark Zimmerman and the other members of STOP think that they have some kind of right to decide for the rest of Winona what types of

Re: [Winona] Our Civil Rights

2001-11-16 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] I couldn't agree more with your concerns or those expressed by Mr. Thompson. As an attorney, it scares the heck out of me that the government is now putting restrictions on the attorney/client privilege and allow them to listen to what have to date been privileged

Re: [Winona] Limitations of MPR Netcasting

2001-11-29 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Dan and all As a former (and possibly future?) resident of Winona I couldn't agree more on the dearth of Public Radio in the city. I was only pointing out one possible option until such time as the situation can be rectified. If I recall, one of the local access

Re: [Winona] Problems with Public Radio in Winona

2001-11-29 Thread DeanLanz
[Winona Online Democracy] Cherisa; Excellent point about not being able to listen to MPR on-line in your car. Since I don't have a car, I guess I didn't think of that. I guess that is one advantage of living in St. Cloud (one of the few?), we can listen to MPR whenever we choose. Either the

Re: [Winona] Military Tribunals

2001-12-01 Thread DeanLanz
Defending ourselves from attack does not include bombing an already poor, 3d World Country further back into the Stone Age some 3 1/2 months later. That is nothing short of vengeance. Perhaps a necessary act at times (although i personally have my doubts. As a friend of mine said shortly after the

Re: [Winona] Military Tribunal

2001-12-01 Thread DeanLanz
Joanie Yes, i share your concerns. I was listening to Morning Addition today (Friday) and heard that a vast majority of Americans support the President (oops, i mean Acting-President) in this matter. Scary, to say the least. But heck, it's only the Constitution right? Not like it's anything

Re: [Winona] faith based initiatives

2001-12-01 Thread DeanLanz
Erin; Well put. As an attorney, and a defender of the Constitution, especially against the incursions of this Administration i share your concerns of this, i think, ill conceived plan. Another reason it hasn't been discussed much lately, however, i think is the fact the Bush Administration has

Re: [Winona] Military Tribunals

2001-12-01 Thread DeanLanz
I agree that contacting our Congress members is important, but it seems that the Bush respond to the Congressional hearings is basically that they can heave their hearings and then we are going to go ahead with it anyway. Dean Lanz