Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 16:08 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Jean Weber wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 04:16, C smau...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 18:53, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: A few example items... the existing/legacy MediaWiki

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Ross Gardler wrote: At present the only way I can see to start doing this is to a) drop the ego on both sides, this is a different world from the one in which the fork was seen as necessary. There are still fundamental licence differences, but I am sure that, for many, the licence is less

Re: Another introduction

2011-07-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 09:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: Greetings all, My name is Graham Lauder AKA Yorick or Yo. I've been involved with OOo for a number of years mainly in the marketing project but also in the

Re: Another introduction

2011-07-04 Thread Ian Lynch
Agreed, I've made my concerns known. Corporations are, by their very nature, sociopathic. Not a new revelation, but one that needs to be restated on occasion. Thankfully, Corporations are also made up of good people and are repositories of resources and networks that are not always

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler
On 4 July 2011 02:59, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: Mentors, how is this report typically handled by the PPMC? Can a PPMC member just draft it and seek lazy consensus to submit?  Or does this require an explicit PPMC vote? It's up to the project. When you are a TLP it is the

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-04 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 01.07.2011 18:47, schrieb Herbert Duerr: On 01.07.2011 13:42, Greg Stein wrote: [...] Please look at tools/dev/fetch-all-cws.sh. Each of these CWS repositories (on Mac OS) are consuming 600 Mb *minimum*. I've fetched a dozen, and a couple are over 2 Gb each, and another over 1 Gb. And this

My introduction

2011-07-04 Thread Jian Fang Zhang
Hi all, My name is Zhang Jian Fang, from IBM China Lotus Symphony team. I have been working on Symphony since 2005. Now I am working as the role of chief programmer. I ever worked on globalization, BIDI support, text rendering, Symphony API, installer, memory leak and build script. I ever

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
Java projects that move to Apache have a similar issue. They often convert from their pre-existing package structure to an org.apache.foo structure. Not sure if that is mandatory or not, but they seem to like to converge on an Apache namespace. But I think XML namespaces are different, since

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Andrea, On Sunday, 2011-07-03 18:27:09 +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 2) OpenOffice.org 3.4 is mostly ready. I built the latest code from hg a couple weeks ago and I've regularly used it so far. The quality is good and there is no risk of damaging the OOo reputation. All release

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
Point of reference: the subversion project used non-ASF infrastructure to conduct releases that would've been blocked by ASF policy on licensing had they used our mirror system. It is certainly possible to do the same sort of thing with ooo for an interim solution, until the codebase has been

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
The other thing I probably should mention here is that this presents a golden opportunity to collaborate with LO should the old ooo infrastructure be considered unable to handle another ooo release. - Original Message From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To:

Re: Try to build OOo , but meet error......

2011-07-04 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi L'oiseau, On Friday, 2011-07-01 08:07:38 +0800, L'oiseau de mer wrote: CONFIG parametres is: ./configure --prefix=/opt/OOO340test1 --disable-mozilla --disable-cups --with-gn u-cp=/usr/gnu/bin/cp --disable-gstreamer --disable-librsvg --without-junit --ena ble-verbose --disable-gtk

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-04 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 01.07.2011 22:58, Michael Stahl wrote: i think i wrote that all CWSes as HG repos take ~100 GB, but actually i now think i remembered wrong and the number was more like ~150 GB. (i did this originally in 2 steps, and i remembered only the second step...) (and if it weren't so late now i'd

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: As each developer retains ownership of their code it maybe better to ask on the developers list [1]. The SC has no control over the devs. [1] libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Since Rob is asking the Steering

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-04 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 04.07.2011 17:27, Michael Stahl wrote: what do you mean by obsolete? the integrated/deleted ones seem to be removed from the server, and i've commented out the cancelled ones. there are two cws that we don't need anymore: layoutdialogs3 and mh6bc The first works with code that another

Re: Try to build OOo , but meet error......

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Stahl
On 04.07.2011 16:17, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi L'oiseau, On Friday, 2011-07-01 08:07:38 +0800, L'oiseau de mer wrote: export CC=/opt/solstudio12.2/bin/cc export CXX=/opt/solstudio12.2/bin/CC Try without setting CC and CXX, configure should find them as /opt/solstudio12.2/bin is in your $PATH,

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Joe, Thanks for switching the people.mdtext to wiki formatting. There was one change lost in your conversion. I had set the width of the first three columns. By doing that the table was much easier to read. How do we set column width in markdown? Regards, Dave On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:22 AM,

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: At 23' full-screen it renders just fine ;-). I'd say try playing with the min-width css attribute for th or td. You have a choice here of using ooo.css or embedding a style type=text/css block in the markdown just before the table. That

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
In general I avoid commenting threads like this, as in my POV the licensing differences are not surmountable.. --- On Mon, 7/4/11, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: ... As each developer retains ownership of their code it maybe better to ask on the developers list [1].  The SC has no

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: At 23' full-screen it renders just fine ;-). I'd say try playing with the min-width css attribute for th or td. You have a choice here of using ooo.css or

Re: My introduction

2011-07-04 Thread IngridvdM
Hi Zhang Jianfang, Am 04.07.2011 14:36, schrieb Jian Fang Zhang: My name is Zhang Jian Fang, from IBM China Lotus Symphony team. I have been working on Symphony since 2005. Now I am working as the role of chief programmer. I ever worked on globalization, BIDI support, text rendering, Symphony

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote: That's not useful criticism. Either learn some perl and code it up for the project to use, or learn some python and submit your change upstream. Either way

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 2:04:30 PM Subject: Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 4, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: I implemented it so that you put the v or ^ marker in the line which separates the header from the entries. Enjoy. I see from the commits log that you are still working on it. I'll delay any comment other than - it looks cool so far. Thanks!

Re: svn commit: r792168 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/people.html

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
I'm done at this point. There is some polish work that anyone can do if there comes a need for it. - Original Message From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 4:51:36 PM Subject: Re: svn commit: r792168 - in

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Stahl
On 04.07.2011 22:01, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: PS: I hadn't thought of the Java and .Net ways of disambiguating the names of externally-bindable enties and the canonical structure of class paths. Do we have any concern for org.openoffice. ... .mumble in that context? the UNO API still uses

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jul 2011, at 18:01, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If the Oracle grant (a license) applies to the code at a particular snapshot in time, then I assume that changes to that code after that might not be covered (however covered by the CLA to Oracle/Sun), and certainly anything which

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-07-04 Thread Ross Gardler
On 4 July 2011 21:01, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: +1 on circulation on ooo-dev. I'm not sure which wiki you mean and whether that would limit participation or not. Sorry, I was referring to the wiki that is used to submit the report to the IPMC. It is publicly writable.

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Dennis, On Monday, 2011-07-04 14:07:05 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Out of curiosity, are there JavaDocs or an equivalent at sun.com/star/... with or without redirection to oracle.com? If not, where? If you're referring the UNO API that uses the com.sun.star namespace, documentation

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread TJ Frazier
Hi, Simon, On 7/4/2011 17:27, Simon Phipps wrote: On 4 Jul 2011, at 18:01, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If the Oracle grant (a license) applies to the code at a particular snapshot in time, then I assume that changes to that code after that might not be covered (however covered by the CLA to

RE: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure - Oh no, fonts

2011-07-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Just muddying the waters a little more, Some recent list exchanges suggest to me that the LibreOffice folks are busily getting rid of OpenSymbol (which the OpenOffice.org ODT of the ODF specifications depend on for default bullets in lists!) but probably not for the right reason: they just

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I'm operating on the assumption that Apache OpenOffice.org will end up with the keys to the openoffice.org lease and will host/redirect it in some manner for some time into the future, especially if we advance

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
An Apache release while in incubation is a goal, perhaps even a blocker for graduation for ooo, but it shouldn't come at a cost of abandoning existing user needs for a lengthy period of time. The ASF is a pragmatic bunch, and realizes that this project is coming in with over a decade of prior

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
Is there a big deal with discussing a further OOo release on the OOo lists? And note I say lists plural. Remember, a release at OOo requires coordination among several different groups, dev, qa, doc, translation, etc. They have their own lists, dozens of them, that are all involved in preparing

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: In general I avoid commenting threads like this, as in my POV the licensing differences are not surmountable.. It is hard to tell whether 100% of TDF developers insist on copyleft. Certainly there is a vocal