On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Clayton,
I am separating into two sub-topics:
(1) IDL Generation.
Thanks for the link to what the Wiki uses to create a short hand for
various IDL links. This points out a very important topic that needs to be
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:33 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:
Much of what is on there is legacy material that could
On 6 July 2011 05:59, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote:
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On 5 July 2011 22:36, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote:
This page here: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html
Is this something that the Podling PMC should be updating? Or is this
for the Mentors? Or is does anyone even look at this?
It is important to keep this up to
On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote:
On 05.07.2011, Rob Weir wrote:
Is the Hg == Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN?
Yes. Having the CWSs in SVN would only increase the size of the
repository considerably without providing benefits after they get
merged. Speaking of
On 05/07/2011 18:07, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com
wrote:
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote:
...
I'd like to explore the technical feasibility of migrating
to JIRA.
+1
I see this page here describing the
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.orgwrote:
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:33 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM,
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:45, Michael Stahl m...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
Once we have a better picture of what is ready or not cws-list.txt needs
to be updated.
i think the goal is to migrate all open CWSes, because perhaps there's still
something useful in there, and we don't have time to
[...] Speaking of merges in SVN we regularly had the problem that a
file was renamed in one CWS and changed in another CWS and the result
was that the change got lost. HG or GIT handle this scenario much
more gracefully, so there was less risk to do big merges.
indeed, which led to
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 16:04, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
Moin,
On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote:
...
Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used?
The alternative would be to
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:50, Michael Stahl m...@openoffice.org wrote:
On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote:
...
merged. Speaking of merges in SVN we regularly had the problem that a
file was renamed in one CWS and changed in another CWS and the result
was that the change got lost. HG or
Mathias Bauer wrote:
Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used?
The alternative would be to add cws to svn only after review.
A somewhat related question would be, until when will the Oracle
offer to extend the source code grant last? Since work done by
Oracle
I would prefer not to see verson control get littered with test commits.
And if you *insist* on testing with the public version control
repository like this, then at least clean up after yourself and delete
these useless files.
thx
-g
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 19:57, rbirc...@apache.org wrote:
This is cool. I have one basic question: do you want the latest
content, or do you want full history?
If latest content, then you could use svn export rather than svn
checkout. However, export won't pick up changes from upstream. The
script would need to skip existing directories, rather than
I've drafted the report directly on the wiki.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2011
Since the Board meeting is the 20th, and they need one-week to review,
we need final sign off by the 13th.
I will be out all next week starting the 12th. So if we can reach
consensus on this and get a
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote:
I've drafted the report directly on the wiki.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2011
Since the Board meeting is the 20th, and they need one-week to review,
we need final sign off by the 13th.
Judging from the other
On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
This is cool. I have one basic question: do you want the latest
content, or do you want full history?
Well. I think that history was erased with the conversion to Kenai as I am
seeing most everything in the initial revision of when they were
To test you just install the python markdown package and execute the script
from the command line.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Joe,
Submit a patch to infrastructure@ plaese.
I would, but I am uncomfortable submitting untested code.
I did some modest streamlining. I didn't alter the questions. I did not touch
the How has the project developed ... question.
I am not sure which of these topics may be from guidance on providing the
report.
Alexandro, will you be making the changes along the lines you suggest?
On Friday I
[I am reminded that the best way to talk to the PPMC is on ooo-dev and there is
benefit in so doing. Here goes.]
PROPOSAL
ooo-security@incubator.a.o be set up as a private list and a selection of not
more than 10 security-aware PPMC members be subscribed to it. We need to work
out what the
On 07/06/2011 11:00 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
Hi Kay,
On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
So, keep the home page as is or find someway to get the CMS
to display it, action statements intact at least.
yes...I hope to investigate the Apache CMS capabilities in this
regard this week.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Jomar Silva homem...@gmail.com wrote:
I also did a presentation about Apache OpenOffice.org with Simon
Phipps, inviting all Brazilian community to join us on the project. I
plan to do a blog post on the next days talking about this
governmental commitment,
Dave,
You wiped out someone else's entry (Yong Lin Ma)-
any reason for that?
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
[I am reminded that the best way to talk to the PPMC is on ooo-dev and there
is benefit in so doing. Here goes.]
PROPOSAL
ooo-security@incubator.a.o be set up as a private list and a selection of not
more than 10
I seem to recall an email from the doc people that they wanted to
stick to their current toolset and infrastructure, rather than bring
that to the ASF. My take-away from that message is that the OOo
documentation is written by other/downstream people, rather than as a
deliverable from the ASF.
On 06.07.2011 18:58, Greg Stein wrote:
The development process that OOo used to use, as I understand it,
looks incredibly heavyweight and slow moving. At Apache, you commit
your changes. If you have a large-ish feature you're unsure about,
then discuss it on the mailing list, and (maybe) go
That was user guides. I'm talking about help documentation, though
the DITA approach could certainly handle user guides with ease as
well.
And remember, there is more than one doc team to consider here. And
once of them would like to use DITA.
-Rob
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Greg Stein
Rob,
I am surprised that you did not suggest using the ODF Toolkit.
Regards,
Dave
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help?
I love ODF as much as anyone, but DITA was designed specifically for
technical documentation,
Hi Rob,
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
we've already done the work
of converting much of the OOo help to DITA.
Is there a software grant coming?
Regards,
Dave
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
On 06.07.2011 18:58, Greg Stein wrote:
The development process that OOo used to use, as I understand it,
looks incredibly heavyweight and slow moving. At Apache, you commit
your changes. If you have a large-ish feature
Just to update on this:
- I have been discussing this with Raphael
- I'm generating current backups of the bz database from OOo
- I'm looking for a place to share an older version of the bz backup -
it's around 10GB
- I am also looking to provide the bz templates
Andrew
On 7/5/2011 10:37
On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote:
I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led by a
corporation to a model that will have less formal coordination
structures. This is necessary to grow the project in the absence of
corporate control. But it will take some time
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Rob,
I am surprised that you did not suggest using the ODF Toolkit.
The DITA Open Toolkit already supports ODF output. They did this back
in early 2010 using a XSLT transform. Although I think doing it with
the ODF
On 7/5/2011 8:53 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
I agree with Mathias ..
We are not advancing simply because it's not clear who does what.
- Greg made a script to import the Hg stuff ... who will run it?
A number of us are - and props gentlemen, the scripts work great.
- Matthias made a
Ah. User guides vs $otherstuff.
For developer documentation, I'd be partial to doxygen. For help
doc... no opinion.
Cheers,
-g
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 18:08, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote:
That was user guides. I'm talking about help documentation, though
the DITA approach could certainly
To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes
from the OOo code line, for each release.
The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write
good code, and make it worth their while to integrate it into LO.
The more compelling the development effort at
Hi Dennis,
I appreciate your concerns. Have you raised them at secur...@apache.org yet?
If the secur...@apache.org list suggests that the AOOo PPMC request a security
mailing list now then we should go ahead. We would need the right volunteers to
handle any concerns.
Perhaps it will turn out
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 15:35:46 -0700:
To make this conversation concrete: I have security issues I want to
raise, which is what had me looking into this in the first place.
Then please report them to security@a.o and/or ooo-private@.
Rob,
I'm trying to track this down also - it's pretty distributed, and I am
not sure what is sharable.
I'll do what I can. (does anyone know who used to collect the stats
for OOo?)
Andrew
On 6/27/2011 5:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
Do we have any detailed access logs or reports for OOo? I think
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 12:02:31 -0700:
I've learned that the Apache approach is for each PMC taking the lead
in handling security matters related to its releases. To maintain the
security of security matters, the practice is to have a private list
(for us,
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Rob,
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
we've already done the work
of converting much of the OOo help to DITA.
Is there a software grant coming?
It is worth considering. But I'm not going to face that
In some ways, the larger the security group, the quicker the solution rate.
Security patched will need to be checked before they are committed, so the
issue fixed doesn't break 3 other parts of the code.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote:
Dennis E.
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the update.
On 7/5/2011 8:53 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
I agree with Mathias ..
We are not advancing simply because it's not clear who does what.
- Greg made a script to import the Hg stuff ... who will run it?
A number of us are - and props gentlemen, the scripts
On 2011/6/6 19:52 Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:
To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes
from the OOo code line, for each release.
The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write
good code, and make it worth their while to
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Well, vulnerabilities are vulnerabilities and if there is an exposure in
current code or in documents produced in current code, isn't that a concern
for us now? Why would it not be?
I'm not saying it is not a
Thanks for anything you can find. The alternative would be to start
collecting logs now, for a month, and use that. Or instrument with
Google Analytics or something. That would give us a good indication
of what pages are most retrieved now. Not quite as good as knowing
what was most-used back
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote:
I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led by a
corporation to a model that will have less formal coordination
structures. This is necessary to grow the
On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Rob,
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
we've already done the work
of converting much of the OOo help to DITA.
Is there a software grant coming?
It
On 07/07/2011 01:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
...
I am currently looking closely at the Apache CMS someone will need to look at
the requirements. Where's the best release and what's required?
cms code :
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/
cms doc :
I didn't say there were no other mutual stakeholders. I mentioned one whose
security list I knew about already. It does raise interesting questions for
when concerted action is desirable though.
I am not confusing security fixes with other fixes. However, slip-streaming
some easy things is
I'm assuming the goal is to keep the analysis and discussion of alleged
vulnerabilities to a relatively small need-to-know group.
I don't know that 10 is a hard number, I heard it as a suggestion when I asked
around about how this works at Apache. Do you know typical sizes for
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 18:35, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Well, vulnerabilities are vulnerabilities and if there is an exposure in
current code or in documents produced in current code, isn't that a concern
for us now? Why would it not be?
Also, I don't presume that
On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Rob,
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
[...] For me examples are best.[...]
Apache Derby uses DITA. AFAIK it's the biggest use of DITA in an open
source project. I wonder if the Derby doc team has any advice for this
new proposal?
http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/dita.html
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/trunk/
Andrew;
Thank you and Raphael for the update ...
I was just clueless about someone was doing the real work!
I have been an OOo user for a while but only now some of us
are starting to get the grasp of the *HUGE* contribution, not
only in software but in resources, that SUN/Oracle has made
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