Re: AOO.Next IBM Priorities

2012-11-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:40 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 01/11/2012 robert_weir wrote: We (IBM) have consulted with customers, internal users, other IBM product teams, on what our (IBM's) development priorities should be for the next AOO release. Obviously, we're not the only ones with

Re: Draft Board report for November

2012-11-03 Thread Dave Fisher
LGTM, thanks! Regards, Dave On Nov 3, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: In the first three months after graduation a project is supposed to report to the Board on a monthly basis. So our reports will be due in November 2012, in December 2012, and then on a quarterly basis

Re: Encouraging participation

2012-11-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, jan iversen wrote: On 2 November 2012 17:54, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 01/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:21 PM, jan iversen wrote: - We need to focus more on people who want to help, instead of using all the legal stuff

Re: Have you been contacted via private email and discouraged from participating on the OpenOffice project?

2012-11-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Jan, We are all here as individuals with various and different amounts of time and energy. Many are employed to work on OpenOffice, but many like me are volunteers who have demanding day jobs. The key part of the Apache Way is that leadership comes from DOING and COMMUNICATING. You are new

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Looking at old threads, I'm a bit

Re: svn commit: r1402586 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.mdtext

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
I have access to the current list and will make the full update by early next week. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:19 AM, b...@apache.org wrote: Author: bmcs Date: Fri Oct 26 17:19:31 2012 New Revision: 1402586 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1402586view=rev Log:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On Friday 26 Oct 2012 11:04:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... it would probably allow to skip the release process and voting, since we would merely be adding 3-5 binary artifacts (built for different platforms). It is an interesting question if we should only vote for source releases. Certainly

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 26, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Hi Every now and then a user finds the experience of downloading, installing, using AOO disappointing and frankly frustrating if not worse. They will usually go to the user forums, but sometimes they will contact the Apache

Re: apache2.conf file for openoffice.org server.

2012-10-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:04 AM, jan iversen wrote: Thanks for your as usual very informative instructions. I did that, BUT it does not tell me which kind of SSI the apache server is using, there are two different methods: 1) using .shtml (which gives a problem with index.shtml) 2) setting

Re: apache2.conf file for openoffice.org server.

2012-10-25 Thread Dave Fisher
. But taking your advice, I will have another look at the templates (it is never too late to do a good thing). Jan. On 25 October 2012 17:55, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:04 AM, jan iversen wrote: Thanks for your as usual very informative instructions

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-25 Thread Dave Fisher
As a member of the Apache POI and OpenOffice PMCs. The answer is yes ODF toolkit might be the correct approach. The mentors on that podling Yegor and Nick are key members of the POI project. They will both be at ApacheCon EU. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM,

Re: [ApacheCon EU] China: Visas to Germany

2012-10-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 22, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 10/23/2012 10:40 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Sorry for top post but: Are there not other Apache EU projects suffering the same effects? Indeed, I also considered to sending this information to the ApacheCon list but the only Chinese

Re: [WWW] Web development in CMS

2012-10-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Alexandro, Would you be specific about the webapps that are being discussed? What is the purpose? At least point at the threads involved. Concrete examples can be discussed while abstract ones are not going to change policies. Recall that AOO already makes use of several specific webapps -

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

2012-10-19 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 19, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Hi, Today apache.org announced: The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache OpenOffice™ as a Top-Level Project Award-winning leading Open Source productivity

Re: Cleaning up ext_sources/

2012-10-15 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: - Original Message - From: Andre Fischer ... One thing to think about is if we should remove the category A tarballs too. I thought about that, too, and I think we should. At least when updating boost I decided not to

Re: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-10-14 Thread Dave Fisher
This page is blank and now redirects to /license.html If someone cares to change it go ahead. Regards, Dave On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: A quick reminder. The support forums are still pointing to Oracle's Policies and Terms of Use document:

Re: Graduation timeline: A reminder for project members, press and list observers

2012-10-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ... As a minor update, the only observation we received so far (besides a substantial number of +1 votes, no abstentions or -1) was that almost all the proposed PMC

Re: Graduation timeline: A reminder for project members, press and list observers

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Issac Goldstand is...@volo-net.com wrote: On 12/10/2012 15:52, Rob Weir wrote: 2) Sending the proposed resolution to the board list per these instructions:

Re: Graduation timeline: A reminder for project members, press and list observers

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Also, there are some administrative steps that we'll need to take care of over the weekend, assuming the IPMC vote passes: 1) Sending a [VOTE][RESULTS] post to the IPMC list 2) Sending the proposed resolution to the board

Re: There is an orb logo with gulls on openSUSE installer

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote: Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the main openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the part that talk about the office

Re: There is an orb logo with gulls on openSUSE installer

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 12, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Ricardo; - Original Message - From: RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com ... 2012/10/12 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote: Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer

Re: [PROPOSAL][WWW] style and content changes to home page

2012-10-10 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Please have a look when you get a moment at the test area for home pages in: http://www.openoffice.org/test/ I have moved what were basically permanent items on our social networking areas and blog to the I want to stay in touch... area.

Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf danie

Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Juergen -- see below On 10/08/2012 04:45 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, we made good progress towards graduation and I would like to discuss the next steps. - we

Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 9, 2012, at 3:56 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The proposed PMC chair is not an officer

Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 9, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 09/10/2012 Dave Fisher wrote: On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Offering to remove the files is bizarre. What is that, slash-dot bait? ... What gets me is the attitude of Rob as a representative

Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA

Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)

2012-10-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-10-01, at 08:49 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: 5 days have passed and no objections were raised, so I'll start moving this forward. No luck with a JIRA

Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)

2012-10-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334 Someone else beat me to it. Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue (private@incubator

Re: [WWW] promoting track OpenOffice on ApacheCon EU 2012

2012-10-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, our collection of ideas for future versions of AOO is ending today. Thus, I would like to take over the marketing banner in order to promote track OpenOffice on ApacheCon EU 2012. The change is already on on staging server -

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC Chair

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 29, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-09-29, at 03:48 , Dave Barton b...@apache.org wrote: Original Message From: Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com To:

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: A technical solution could be to put the strings into their own XML file, so different localized versions could be used. These would be strings like column headers, the text of the disclaimer, etc. This would be perfect,

[WWW] Website Skinning and Branding [Was: Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants ]

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
construction. On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: A technical solution could be to put the strings into their own XML file, so different

Re: News article integration with home page

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:12:25AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: What makes this different from our other SSI uses is we need to limit the number of articles displayed.

Re: News article integration with home page

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:12:25AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: What makes this different from our other SSI uses

What do we say about Binaries, Packagers and Distributors? [Was Re: Did we ever reach consensus on support for Windows 2000]

2012-09-29 Thread Dave Fisher
I think the topic has change to one that is important to discuss in advance of graduation. On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 09/29/2012 10:27 PM, schrieb Wolf Halton: snip We don't have to make

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC Chair

2012-09-28 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 27, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to nominate Andrea Pescetti. Andrea is one of the most active and well respected members of the project, and I believe he would make a great PMC Chair. I agree. Regards, Dave Andrew On 9/27/2012 2:42 PM, Andrew Rist

Re: News article integration with home page

2012-09-28 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: Thanks for this feedback Rob...good observations to say the least...see inline On 09/27/2012 05:57 PM, Rob Weir wrote: Kay has started a page on the wiki to list possible areas where we can improve the website:

Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?

2012-09-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 27, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG 02 - See comments inline. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2012 09:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - See comments inline On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w

Re: [proposed PMC] call for feedback: Are you willing to serve as a PMC member?

2012-09-26 Thread Dave Fisher
list is: Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) I am willing to serve. Regards, Dave Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian

Re: LICENSE text in the user interface

2012-09-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Joost, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:28:41PM +0200, Joost Andrae wrote: Hi, a side note: IANAL, but in some countries legal texts have to be translated (eg. in France). Means, if you change something witin this area you have to

Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process

2012-09-25 Thread Dave Fisher
) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro

Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?

2012-09-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Should we have a webdev list? We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year. In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project. I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the work on redesign start

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:37 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Rob, I recently took a look at

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-23 Thread Dave Fisher
Yan yanji...@gmail.com + louis ooo-security + hdu + zhangjf ooo-users - robweir - orcmid + bmcs ooo-users-fr - water...@sunrise.ch Regards, Dave On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:48 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w

Re: 答复: can ooo's write export swf file?

2012-09-23 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 22, 2012, at 4:21 PM, jianlizhao wrote: HI Dave Fisher Could you tell me the Java libraries. They are here: http://www.flagstonesoftware.com/transform/index.html OpenSource and BSD licensed. Regards, Dave Regards Hello my friend: I ask you some question: 1) Can ooo's

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-23 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - An ML admin reports that this is completed. (Thanks Daniel!) Regards, Dave On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi - I requested the following changes today via an email to ML admins - apmail at. (Sorry for the delay.) ooo-announce + hdu + zhangjf ooo-commits

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-23 Thread Dave Fisher
(arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Claudio Filho (filhocf) Dave Fischer (wave) It is Dave Fisher. Or officially the C leads as in C David Fisher. Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Hagar Delest (hagar) Herbert Duerr (hdu) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jian Fang Zhang

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-23 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 23, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Rob, I recently took a look at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html to see if I could derive that list from the Roster. What gave me pause is that the list is apparently maintained in XML. I could not find

Re: can ooo's write export swf file?

2012-09-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:58 AM, jianlizhao jianlizh...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello my friend: I ask you some question: 1) Can ooo's write export swf file format? 2) Can I use extension implement this feature? Possibly, I know that there are Java libraries like itransform that can help.

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-20 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated and discussed on the private@tlp list. Votes are held on the private list, so is not secret, but it is not

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-20 Thread Dave Fisher
be verified by anyone, and there can be subsequent discussion on what to make of it, if anything. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 06:06 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC

Re: Amazon Download of Apache OpenOffice 3.4

2012-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: On learning that Amazon.com is offering downloads of Apache OpenOffice, I was curious enough to go through the purchase ($0.00) and download process at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008XAXAC4/. Here's everything I noticed:

Re: [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Premature and lacking details. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Yang

Re: [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
We have not agreed to Andrew's proposal to use this approach, Go White Sox! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: I have no objections to Andrew original list. If I were to add 10 more people; Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
I object to the simultaneous discuss with proposed lists at the same time there is activity in your original thread. There is a division of attention. This is unfortunate which thread gets a substantive response? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Andrew Rist

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 08.09.2012 13:50, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Here are the changes to moderation that will be requested shortly. If anyone else would like to be added please respond. I will create a JIRA issue for the changes

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Here are the changes to moderation that will be requested shortly. If anyone else would like to be added please respond. I will create a JIRA issue for the changes this weekend. Please open another email thread to either discuss or propose where to document the moderators including the

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Dennis is handling transitions on ooo-private. I'm traveling tomorrow and will put together a final list and write the JIRA issue for Apache Infra

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
-faqs.html#mailing-lists This is very out of date. It makes more sense to me on this page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Regards, Dave - Simon 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators

[DISCUSS] Code of Conduct

2012-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, We have a code of conduct here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/list-conduct.html These are the community's code and we should all agree to abide by the code. Maybe there is some more work to do exposing the code. Maybe the code needs to be modified. Graduation requires the

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Some comments on the coverage so far. On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

2012-09-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I would like to give my thoughts on defining roles for management, ... as the thread Specific actions needed for developing the community tends to become a general one on this topic. For me we, the AOO community, need to

Re: OpenOffice.org Business Partnership Inquiry

2012-09-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Most of the replies have failed to notice that the email was moderated into the list. On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: This is the third occurrence of the exact same letter from Faith. I'm thinking autogen. There really should be an unsubscribe... On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at

[DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2

Re: Specific actions needed for developing the community

2012-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Top posting because we have a specific ecosystem issue that needs handling - distribution. In the former OOo days companies, groups and individuals could become community distributors. They could make use of logos and CD labels and package their own version of OOo. These still exist. I see you

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in a list that contains the people who are serious about the project. Unfortunately, we

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee member?

2012-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 7, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Regina and all, We are making Apache OpenOffice, multilingual and multiplatform office suite. We would like to build a vibrant and healthy community for Apache OpenOffice. Our community will be diverse in its member's language, culture,

Re: [PERSONAL] My absence

2012-09-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Don, Very sorry for the trauma. Glad that she is stable and recovering. Thank you for planning the AOO track for ApacheConEU. I enjoyed our discussions with Andrew and others at the last ApacheCon NA. I'm sure that there will be many more people from the project then the three of us. BTW -

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee member?

2012-09-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: Think of an orchestra. We don't expect every player to play every instrument. But we do expect a musicianship, the ability to play your part well and in a way that fits with the

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
and for forging ahead with this Dave. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 20:50 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 Hi, Thanks. I've essentially

Re: Distribution Project - Update

2012-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 5 September 2012 13:37, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ian and all, 2012/9/5 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com On 5 September 2012 09:22, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-09-04 Thread Dave Fisher
to the satisfaction of the PPMC. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 18:16 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 On Sep 3, 2012, at 5:24 PM

Re: Distribution Project - Update

2012-09-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi John, Are there any updates on this? I have asked a little while ago with no response. I am willing to get this up and running. Please let me know. I'd like to preface Rob's answers with a couple of remarks. I went to your website [1] where it is clear that your company is in the

Re: Stale links...

2012-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 3 September 2012 02:16, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: I was looking here: http://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html Do we continue using that very very old support page? I had replaced it with

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
PS: I may have provided that previous data, but it was a while ago [;). -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 16:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Hamilton Subject: Re: board report

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
to be accountability and closure on our part. I paid little attention to that issue. I would suggest that the single leak was identified and the matter has been closed to the satisfaction of the PPMC. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-09-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: We are not a TLP the board report is to the IPMC and needs to be ready much, much sooner than two days before the board meeting. We need to have this ready by a date like September 12. Actually the due date is September 5. Thanks Kay

Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012

2012-08-31 Thread Dave Fisher
We are not a TLP the board report is to the IPMC and needs to be ready much, much sooner than two days before the board meeting. We need to have this ready by a date like September 12. The IPMC will review the report. We should be discussing our graduation plans. The report will go here:

Re: 27MB odt file in svn

2012-08-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/29/2012 10:51 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 29.08.2012 16:02, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just

Re: svn commit: r1377138 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html

2012-08-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/29/2012 06:48 PM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: Hi Andrea, * On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 06:38:48PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I found this commit from Marcus, from a few days ago: Author: marcus Date: Fri Aug 24 22:17:10 2012

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: The ASF releases code. PMCs vote on a SVN tag and on a release tarball (distribution) made from that tag. There is a direct and easily followed path between the bits the end-user gets and the bits that the PMC has determined as the release.

Re: [WWW]Some trouble with the new URLs for the forums

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:03 AM, RGB ES wrote: 2012/8/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Adding to the (lack of) redirection problem between the old and the new URL expressed on other threads, there are other problems reported by

Re: Extension downloading problem

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: Also, I wonder if it would be worth submitting a patch for Apache. It looks like they have the other content types used by OpenOffice, but

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, We need to do more work to have proper compliance with Apache Infrastructure policy in managing external dependencies. I may not be precisely correct and am looking for confirmation, but In general i think we need to (1) Completely avoid using svn.apache.org. I don't think we are allowed

Re: [DL Website] Prototype of an automatic table with download links

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi all, as promized on Friday I've adjusted the existing automatism to the lastest AOO 3.4.1 parameters. The most recent webpage is here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_print.html There is one change needed with

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: FYI, concerning the matter of binaries distributed by the Apache OpenOffice project. I neglected to consider a case that Dave Fisher just raised here on ooo-dev: Where the binary dependencies relied upon in an Apache OpenOffice

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
- Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w

Re: AOO long-term support ?

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
This is an excellent question. I can only say that other projects at Apache do this - on example is Apache Tomcat. Tomcat currently supports three releases: - 5.5.x which is EOL December of this year. [1] - 6.0.x - 7.0.x Since Tomcat 5.5.x is a dependency of AOO 3.4.x we need to be aware of

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: FYI, concerning the matter of binaries distributed by the Apache OpenOffice project. I neglected to consider a case that Dave Fisher just raised here on ooo-dev: Where the binary

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
, although that seems to be a rather AOO-specific case. At some point, the entire extension provenance and authenticity case *will* come under scrutiny. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:57 To: ooo-dev

Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/26/2012 02:26 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2012 01:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Re: Open-office downloading site - FLV player advertisement

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Jonas, We've been looking into to your issue and Roberto has a question for you. See the bottom. (Sorry, but not everyone notices when a question has been moderated into the list.) On Aug 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Fernando Cassia

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, We need to do more work to have proper

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: BTW, - Original Message - ... This is already part of the current process. The signatures are in download_external_dependencies.pl. The Central Maven Repository

Re: [DL Website] Prototype of an automatic table with download links

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/26/2012 11:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/26/2012 09:38 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi all, as promized on Friday I've adjusted the existing automatism to the lastest AOO 3.4.1

Re: Extension downloading problem

2012-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 25, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I

Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming

2012-08-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested

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