[OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Tony Derry
Is anyone using Tivoli Storage Manager with AFS filesystems? This is a terribly slow solution and we havnt been able to find an acceptable alternative. We are using a P650 as a server and LTO2 tape drives. We recently did a restore of 20 GB that took 27 hours. Non AFS data can be restored

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Hartmut Reuter
Tony Derry wrote: Is anyone using Tivoli Storage Manager with AFS filesystems? This is a terribly slow solution and we havnt been able to find an acceptable alternative. We are using a P650 as a server and LTO2 tape drives. We recently did a restore of 20 GB that took 27 hours. Non AFS

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Andrew Bacchi
We are using a similar backup scheme to TSM, and we're forced to use old AIX backup servers since the TSM API hasn't been ported to OpenAFS/Linux. I'm in the early stages of redesigning the backup system. We have SAN attached disk available, and my plan is to do a butc backup to the SAN disk,

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Eric Sturdivant
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Tony Derry wrote: Is anyone using Tivoli Storage Manager with AFS filesystems? This is a terribly slow solution and we havnt been able to find an acceptable alternative. We are using a P650 as a server and LTO2 tape drives. We recently did a restore of 20 GB that took

[OpenAFS] newbie observations...

2005-09-27 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
I'm still in the process of evaluating OpenAFS. I have some observations based on my inexperience and would like to gain some more insight... For user home directories, it seems like I can have functionally the same thing if I use LVM and Automount, except I wouldn't have the filesystem

Re: [OpenAFS] newbie observations...

2005-09-27 Thread Chris Crowther
Jiann-Ming Su wrote: functionally the same thing if I use LVM and Automount, except I wouldn't have the filesystem authentication. Is there another aspect of OpenAFS that I'm missing causing me to make this observation? Other than LVM is only for local filesystems and AFS is a

Re: [OpenAFS] newbie observations...

2005-09-27 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
On 9/27/05, Chris Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jiann-Ming Su wrote: functionally the same thing if I use LVM and Automount, except I wouldn't have the filesystem authentication. Is there another aspect of OpenAFS that I'm missing causing me to make this observation? Other

[OpenAFS] Firewall politics and AFS deployment

2005-09-27 Thread Simeon Miteff
Dear All We're facing a difficult problem with our planned deployment of AFS here at the University of Pretoria. I'm hoping that we can gain some insight into how things work on other similar networks. I apologise in advance for the long post, unfortunately I can't think of a short way to

Re: [OpenAFS] newbie observations...

2005-09-27 Thread Jim Rees
If you turn it on, it will be on for all file content traffic on that client. But only if you have a token. No token, no encryption. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Andrew Bacchi
Eric, Yes it is expensive. RPI is working toward a solid disaster recovery plan. We consider our cell to be mission critical, as it isn't only user disk being served. Getting the entire cell up and running in the shortest time is important to us, and we're making progress in that area. I see

Re: [OpenAFS] Firewall politics and AFS deployment

2005-09-27 Thread Todd M. Lewis
Simeon Miteff wrote: [...] Looking at the public CellServDB, I can't help wondering how AFS servers are connected at other universities? Are we overly firewalled? Yes. Do other HPC centres maintain separate AFS cells for cluster users? No. Any thoughts? You gain nothing by

Re: [OpenAFS] Firewall politics and AFS deployment

2005-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Simeon Miteff wrote: Some years ago our network used to be fairly open/lightly firewalled (as I imagine most university networks were). Then some machines got hacked (*cough*windows*cough*), and then a decision was made to change the network to a Internet---DMZLAN type of setup. The LAN

Re: [OpenAFS] Firewall politics and AFS deployment

2005-09-27 Thread Noel Burton-Krahn
Hi Simeon, Port forwarding would do the trick, but AFS requires several ports. How about setting up a VPN to allow external clients access to your AFS servers? I use www.natnix.com. --Noel - Original Message - From: Simeon Miteff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: openafs-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS docs in AFS?

2005-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, September 23, 2005 05:19:30 AM -0700 Coy Hile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dl.openafs.org/dl/openafs/candidate/1.4.0-rc4/openafs-1.4.0-rc4-do c.tar Note that http://dl.openafs.org/dl/openafs is the same as /afs/grand.central.org/software/openafs -- Jeff

RE: [OpenAFS] transarc.com

2005-09-27 Thread ted creedon
If Transarc is a trademark or is copyrighted, IBM still owns the domain. There is a procedure to rectify this. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:40 PM To: ed; Chris Crowther Cc:

Re: [OpenAFS] Wiki broken?

2005-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, September 23, 2005 09:08:46 AM -0400 Derrick J Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Simeon Miteff wrote: Hi All Not Found The requested URL /pages/twiki/bin/view/AFSLore/WebHome was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.31 Server at grand.central.org Port 80

Re: [OpenAFS] Trouble compiling 1.4rc4 SRPM

2005-09-27 Thread Christopher Allen Wing
Hi Kevin!! Kevin Coffman wrote: Yea. I just decided to ignore those. I suppose I could try to build and install fakeka if people seem to want it. fakeka comes with the MIT Kerberos code now and Heimdal already has afs stuff, so I don't think there's a need. fakeka isn't built by default

[OpenAFS] rc5 spvrPort build problem on i386 FC3....

2005-09-27 Thread Matthew Miller
gcc -pipe -O2 -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/src/config -I. -I. -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include/afs -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include/rx

Re: [OpenAFS] rc5 spvrPort build problem on i386 FC3....

2005-09-27 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Matthew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gcc -pipe -O2 -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/src/config -I. -I. -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include/afs

Re: [OpenAFS] rc5 spvrPort build problem on i386 FC3....

2005-09-27 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Matthew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/src -DAFS_PTHREAD_ENV -pthread -D_REENTRANT -g -O2 -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -c rxstat_clear_peer.c rxstat_clear_peer.c: In function `ParseArgs': rxstat_clear_peer.c:60: error: `spvrPort' undeclared (first use

Re: [OpenAFS] rc5 spvrPort build problem on i386 FC3....

2005-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Matthew Miller wrote: gcc -pipe -O2 -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/src/config -I. -I. -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include/afs -I/home/mattdm/rpmbuild/BUILD/openafs-1.4.0-rc5/include/rx

Re: [OpenAFS] Trouble compiling 1.4rc4 SRPM

2005-09-27 Thread Kevin Coffman
Hi Kevin!! Kevin Coffman wrote: Yea. I just decided to ignore those. I suppose I could try to build and install fakeka if people seem to want it. fakeka comes with the MIT Kerberos code now and Heimdal already has afs stuff, so I don't think there's a need. fakeka isn't

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Tony Derry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone using Tivoli Storage Manager with AFS filesystems? Yes. We're using it so that we can get per-file backups and restores of AFS. It works reasonably well, and we've not noticed significant slowness problems apart from occasionally some

[OpenAFS] Compatibility of openafs with suspend2 ?

2005-09-27 Thread Madhusudan Singh
Hi Over the past 2-3 days, I have tried to add software suspend (using patch from www.suspend2.net) functionality into the kernel (tried 2.6.12 and 2.6.13 - openafs modules compile and install correctly with 2.6.12.5 without this patch) and each time, the compilation of openafs has failed. I

Re: [OpenAFS] Compatibility of openafs with suspend2 ?

2005-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 05:53:44 PM -0400 Madhusudan Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Over the past 2-3 days, I have tried to add software suspend (using patch from www.suspend2.net) functionality into the kernel (tried 2.6.12 and 2.6.13 - openafs modules compile and install

Re: [OpenAFS] Firewall politics and AFS deployment

2005-09-27 Thread Tim Spriggs
Hi Simeon, I am not an expert in AFS but I have setup an afs cell behind a firewall that was publicly available. However, it is by far not the easiest setup to install and it definitely makes life harder in troubleshooting. Also, there can be some complications when fileserver machines have more

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Timothy G. Flynn
Russ Allbery wrote: Tony Derry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone using Tivoli Storage Manager with AFS filesystems? Yes. We're using it so that we can get per-file backups and restores of AFS. It works reasonably well, and we've not noticed significant slowness problems apart

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Timothy G Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you using TSM as a backend for the AFS backup system or are you using the normal TSM client to backup filesystems under /afs ? Using the normal TSM client. Since you mention per-file backups I assumed you were doing the later. But if that is

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy G Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you using TSM as a backend for the AFS backup system or are you using the normal TSM client to backup filesystems under /afs ? Using the normal TSM client. I assume he means the normal one with afs

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM and AFS

2005-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Christopher D Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume he means the normal one with afs support, i.e. dsmafs or dsmcafs. These exist in the TSM 5.1 packages and seem to only want to install on AIX 4.3.3 or 5.1. I assume that the binaries can be copied to newer AIX versions as needed, as