Re: [OpenAFS] Client update and failover for afsdb hosts

2019-08-22 Thread Steve Simmons
Awesome, thanks. Steve On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 2:59 PM Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 02:53:13PM -0400, Steve Simmons wrote: > > To make a long story short, we're going to be moving the network on which > > our afsdb servers reside from one data center to an

[OpenAFS] Client update and failover for afsdb hosts

2019-08-22 Thread Steve Simmons
? Advance thanks, Steve Simmons

[OpenAFS] Re: AFSDB record changes and pre-existing clients

2019-07-22 Thread Steve Simmons
the entire subnet that contains the afsdb servers to the new data center. Thanks, Steve Simmons ITS Unix Support/SCS Admins On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:52 PM Jeffrey E Altman wrote: > I'm moving this discussion to openafs-info@openafs.org because its > subject isn't about new or on

[OpenAFS] Vhosts as AFS servers?

2019-01-15 Thread Steve Simmons
. If you're using or used virtualized servers, we'd love to hear how their working out for you. At the moment, the servers are running OpenAFS 1.6.17. I don't know if they're considering upgrading to 1.8.X as part of this or not. Advance thanks, Steve Simmons ITS Unix Support/SCS Admins

Re: [OpenAFS] automatic replication of ro volumes

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Simmons
Cron has no more knowledge about when the r/w volume is in a consistent state than does AFS. Only the person(s) who make the changes to the r/w volume know when it's ready to release. Steve Simmons ITS Unix Support/SCS Admins On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:22 AM Andreas Ladanyi wrote: > Hi Jeff

Re: [OpenAFS] afsdf new release

2017-05-17 Thread Steve Simmons
399 2924.95% > > lnx-16- > > lnx-17- > > lnx-18a 909 0.85% > > > Kind regards, > > Ado Arnolds > > On 09.05.2017 19:23, Steve Simmons wrote: >> About 10 years back I posted a 'afsdf' com

[OpenAFS] afsdf new release

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Simmons
​About 10 years back I posted a 'afsdf' command to openafs-info. Many improvements were made based on suggestions here, but I never got round to re-posting it. In general, the command does a df-ish disk usage report across an entire cell, with various permutations on roll-ups, display compaction,

[OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] How old of Linux do you use with OpenAFS?

2016-05-13 Thread Steve Simmons
We have a bunch of old linux-from-scratch systems which we're rolling out the door and aren't going to be getting AFS upgrades. RHEL5 is the next-oldest, about 15% of dropping fast and we're currently discussing what to do w/r/t afs on them. Everything else with AFS is pretty recent. The

Re: [OpenAFS] Find windows openafs version

2013-08-23 Thread Steve Simmons
On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Christof Hanke ha...@rzg.mpg.de wrote: Hi, Am 22.08.2013, 16:33 Uhr, schrieb Gémes Géza g...@kzsdabas.hu: Sorry for this slightly off topic question, but what is the recommended way to find out the version of the openafs installation. I ask this because I

Re: [OpenAFS] Run file server without client?

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Russ Allbery r...@stanford.edu wrote: david l goodrich d...@dsrw.org writes: Running your servers without the client is (at the last time I checked) recommended. I don't know that I would go so far as to say recommended. Not having the client installed does

Re: [OpenAFS] shadow volumes and 'vos syncvldb'

2012-12-03 Thread Steve Simmons
Shadow volumes by their very definition never enter the vldb. Steve On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Arne Wiebalck wrote: Dear all, If detecting shadow volumes, does 'vos syncvldb' really update VLDB entries to point to the shadow location instead of the location of the R/W source volume

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-announce] OpenAFS 1.7.18 released for Microsoft Windows - Win 8 and Server 2012

2012-11-08 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jeffrey Altman jalt...@openafs.org wrote: OpenAFS 1.7.18 is the next a series of OpenAFS clients for the Microsoft Windows platform that is implemented as a native file system. I am not asking for it, just

Re: [OpenAFS] is YFS a derived work?

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: Let's look at this another way... If someone actually bothers to file an IP lawsuit of any sort regarding AFS, then I think this would be the most credible sign of success I could possibly imagine. And then, in that case, if there were

[OpenAFS] Status of Perl AFS with 1.6?

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Simmons
The last bit of discussion on perlafs with openafs 1.6 seemed to end with the note below. If there's been progress on this, can anyone point us at patches/whatever? We've got a person here who's trying to use AFS perl interfaces on gentoo with AFS 1.6, and he's not having much joy. Advance

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Changing freespace value returned to 'df' - Linux

2012-09-10 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 17:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Richard Brittain richard.britt...@dartmouth.edu wrote: The magic number embedded in osi_vfsops.c is easy enough to find, but can anyone tell me if they have successfully changed this, or are there

[OpenAFS] Max bucket len exceeded - odd length?

2012-09-05 Thread Steve Simmons
We've been receiving messages like this occasionally on one of our 1.4.8 clients: Sep 4 15:54:03 host kernel: afs_get_hash_stats: Warning! exceeded max bucket len 32 Sep 4 15:54:03 host kernel: afs_get_hash_stats: Warning! exceeded max bucket len 30 Sep 1 07:13:18 host kernel:

Re: [OpenAFS] Possible bug in Windows AFS client handling older shortcuts

2012-08-27 Thread Steve Simmons
Microsoft's SMB redirector to a dedicated AFS redirector. Jeffrey Altman On Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:41:41 PM, Steve Simmons wrote: The central support staff for the umich cell and support staff for our Engineering colleges have been working together to try and figure out some odd

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: re doing rm in /vice*

2012-08-27 Thread Steve Simmons
On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: Also, if you 'vos zap -force' the RO/BK volume id, the volume will be deleted pretty similarly as if you just 'rm'ed a few of those files. It still has that problem, though, of leaking space. I did not know that. Thanks. Steve

Re: [OpenAFS] re doing rm in /vice*

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Simmons
On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:14 PM, ra...@hep.wisc.edu wrote: We have an AFS filserver running openafs-server-1.4.14-80.1.sl5. We had to salvage one of it's RW volumes after a reboot. But then it's backup volume that wouldn't attach, needs to be salvaged Yet salvage said read-only volume; not

[OpenAFS] Possible bug in Windows AFS client handling older shortcuts

2012-08-23 Thread Steve Simmons
The central support staff for the umich cell and support staff for our Engineering colleges have been working together to try and figure out some odd performance when using the Windows client. We now have a consistent and reproducible example. At this point I lean towards it being an AFS client

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: bos backupsys silently failing for one or two volumes?

2012-07-17 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jul 16, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:07:10 -0400 Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu wrote: Bos config for backupsys: bnode cron snapshot 1 parm /usr/sbin/vos backupsys -se localhost -localauth parm 18:00 end This may not be a 'silent' error; you're

Re: [OpenAFS] empty /afs

2012-07-16 Thread Steve Simmons
Seconding what Dan said. Under 'normal' circumstances, you can get away with this. But if anything goes wrong with your afs server itself, you're in a deadly embrace -- since the server doesn't come up, the client fails and the sh*t hits the fan. Worse, if you've got server-side dependencies on

[OpenAFS] bos backupsys silently failing for one or two volumes?

2012-07-16 Thread Steve Simmons
It appears that periodically bos backupsys silently fails for a volume. I'm curious if others have seen the same issue. We recently updated some of our AFS data gathering and internal health scripts to report on volumes that had not had a recent .backup volume created. This has mostly been a

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Problems with ACLS

2012-05-08 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 8, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2012 22:24:43 +0200 Stefan Michael Guenther s.guent...@in-put.de wrote: Well, as user admin I am allowed to create files, but even as a mmember of the administrators group it is not possible for me? This is strange. Yes,

Re: [OpenAFS] download links

2011-09-30 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: Just a suggestion for the download links: The section to download Source Code on the website looks a bit crowded, with 12 links. Can we drop the plain .tar releases, and only do .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 ? This would also save a bit of disk space

Re: [OpenAFS] Setting quotas with interesting numbers

2011-09-26 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Simon Wilkinson wrote: On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:28, Derrick Brashear sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu wrote: I've been working on a patch to AFS so that one could add scales to numbers. The primary goal

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAfs+Kerberos+OSXLion+Finder+Two Realms

2011-09-22 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Ivan Glushkov wrote: Been getting it every since updating to Lion, but never got around to looking into it ? I added allow_weak_crypto = true in the [libdefaults] part of /etc/krb5.conf and it works for me. I have no idea what exactly this means -

[OpenAFS] Setting quotas with interesting numbers

2011-09-22 Thread Steve Simmons
I've been working on a patch to AFS so that one could add scales to numbers. The primary goal is to be able to do things like $ fs setq . 1g and get a gigabyte quota. For we who use powers of 1024, that's a helluva lot easier than $ fs setq . 1048576 Especially when setting, say, 23g

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS for Windows IFS Status

2011-09-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Ben Howell wrote: Will that release on/about Sep. 15 be a alpha/beta/dev release, or an actual public release? It's the 1.7 branch, and therefore a development release. And like all openafs development releases, it's public.

Re: [OpenAFS] Retiring the LWP fileserver

2011-09-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Simon Wilkinson wrote: We're currently maintaining 3 versions of the AFS fileserver - the LWP one, a normal pthreaded fileserver, and the demand attach fileserver. The normal pthreaded fileserver has been the default for all of our supported platforms since

Re: [OpenAFS] Strange logs from a Windows Client

2011-03-17 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Claudio Prono wrote: Hello all, I have found some strange logs from a windows Client to my AFS: Mar 9 14:52:22 afs kernel: [8648828.273271] UDP: short packet: From xxx.xxx.xxx.68:7001 88/73 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:7000 Mar 9 15:16:39 afs kernel:

Re: [OpenAFS] Strange logs from a Windows Client

2011-03-17 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: We have occasionally seen these. Other folks here tell me it's usually due to low-quality hacking tools doing UDP-based probes. When they happen here, the source address is always from various places off-campus. That was my first thought as

Re: [OpenAFS] Status of OS X 10.6 64bit kernel support ?

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Simmons
On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On 1 Feb 2011, at 5:31am, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/1/11 00:26 , Derrick Brashear wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Chris Jones jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: I need to run

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: On 1/28/2011 1:52 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: did shutdown perchance take 30min? Yes. I found this in BosLog.old just now: Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientetc exited on signal 15 Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientbin exited on signal 15

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Gary Gatling wrote: I am in charge of several afs servers in our college. Right now there are 5 afs servers running on 5 SPARC based servers. We are ditching Solaris since it sucks so bad and are going to move to Linux VM's running inside of VMware. I was

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Stephen Joyce wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Steve Simmons wrote: We have seen similar issues. It occurs when there is a given vice partition where lots of clients have registered callbacks but those clients are no longer accessible. Not all the clients have

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-31 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:54:24 -0500 Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu wrote: Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientetc exited on signal 15 Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientbin exited on signal 15 Wed Jan 26 12:28:24 2011: fs:vol exited on signal

Re: [OpenAFS] Preferred way to do backup? [Was] Re: best way to control butc tape host process?

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Matt W. Benjamin wrote: Someone should mention that Michigan has built some kind of infrastructure around incremental volume shadowing, which should be a pretty efficient approach given what OpenAFS gives you to work with... I don't know how you go about

[OpenAFS] State of the Michigan shadow system (long)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Simmons
Matt Benjamin alluded to this in other email on the info list; given the state of our world it's a good idea to get the idea out to others. The state of our world doesn't mean it's coming apart, just means that we probably aren't going to be working on this for the forseeable future. Dan Hyde

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: State of the Michigan shadow system (long)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 20, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:46:38 -0500 Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu wrote: A shadow volume is a read-only remote clone of a primary volume. We had to create some terminology here, and 'primary' is what we called the real-time, in-use, r/w

Re: [OpenAFS] GiveUpAllCallBacks callers

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Simmons
Having read the entire discussion up to this point, I find the alternate version 3404 to be an acceptable workaround. There are lots of things in various bits of software which look around for condition X to see if Y is acceptable. Lacking a proper solution (more on that in a separate note),

Re: [OpenAFS] Proposed changes for server log rotation

2010-12-03 Thread Steve Simmons
Responding to various notes - On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jeffrey Altman jalt...@secure-endpoints.com writes: My one concern to switching to something like syslog by default is that bos getlog will need to be re-implemented in a different fashion. Yeah, this is a

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Proposed changes for server log rotation

2010-12-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:00:37 -0500 chas williams - CONTRACTOR c...@cmf.nrl.navy.mil wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:53:08 -0600 Andrew Deason adea...@sinenomine.net wrote: Why lose the logs? It's already annoying enough when I get told a vos

Re: [OpenAFS] Prefered file system for vice partitions

2010-11-26 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Stephen Joyce wrote: Note that I just read about this on slashdot http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/22/1433246/Running-ZFS-Natively-On-Linux-Slower-Than-Btrfs, which along with the cruft its discussions are wont to have, touches on licensing issues.

Re: [OpenAFS] New OpenAFS website proposal.

2010-11-26 Thread Steve Simmons
In re plone vs this-that-the-other, Xwiki vs. Ywiki, etc - I am a strong proponent of the volunteers having final say on the toolset. Others can and should express their opinions, but after a reasonable period of time (days or weeks, not months) the volunteers should get final decision unless

Re: [OpenAFS] Thanks OpenAFS

2010-11-19 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: Probably odd, but... I just wanted to thank all of the people who work on OpenAFS, whether they're core developers, people who answer questions on the list, tweak documentation, submit bug reports, or anything else that contributes. So,

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows 7 64 Bit Issues

2010-11-19 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: On 11/19/2010 4:38 AM, Kamran Babazadeh wrote: Hi, does anyone of you has troubles with the AFS Client on Windows 7 64 Bit Machines? I have a Server running which we can access by authentificating ourselves with the AFS Client. On the the

Re: [OpenAFS] /usr/afsws convention

2010-11-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: I'm looking at tidying and standardizing my $PATH across systems, and I had a question about the /usr/afsws path. Is the /usr/afsws convention considered deprecated? If not, it should be. IMHO, of course.

Re: [OpenAFS] UDP slowness remedies?

2010-10-25 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan Pritts wrote: Others will have to chime in on tuning the server for vos move. I have one thought that might or might not help - do something like this from a host at source site. I am far from sure of the syntax but you get the idea: vos dump srv part

Re: [OpenAFS] Status of the AFS::Command CPAN module

2010-10-15 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Over the last year there has been discussion of adding -xml, -csv, and other formatted text data streams. Would that be easier for you to work with? Obviously all of the functionality that is being performed by the various command line

Re: [OpenAFS] Bug in pts/ptserver: createuser with a negative id works

2010-10-15 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: On 10/15/2010 3:05 PM, Phillip Moore wrote: While adding test cases for failures in the AFS::Command::PTS test suite, I noticed the following unexpected results: [r...@rpcore ~]# pts createuser -name fakeafscmduser -id -1010 -cell

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: bos killed fileserver before it was shut down cleanly.

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Adam Megacz a...@megacz.com writes: Russ Allbery r...@stanford.edu writes: The problem is that it's also not uncommon for the fileserver to completely or nearly completely stall when shutting down, Just curious, is this stall a bug in the

Re: [OpenAFS] MacOS AppleDouble excretions

2010-10-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Adam Megacz wrote: MacOS seems to litter network shares with two kinds of files: .DS_Store (Finder data) ._filename (AppleDouble resource fork) There's a MacOS setting to disable the first kind of litter. Unfortunately it seems like there is no way

Re: [OpenAFS] Overview? Linux filesystem choices

2010-10-01 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 30, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Robert Milkowski wrote: Why does it matter for you if ZFS is being developed in open or not? Can't speak for anybody else, but w/r/t umich and AFS it's likely a matter of cost. We can build and run oAFS on white boxes a helluva lot cheaper than we can do it on

Re: [OpenAFS] Overview? Linux filesystem choices

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Thomas Kula wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:49:59PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Jeff Blaine jbla...@kickflop.net writes: Barring an equivalent, what Linux setup... a) seems most stable b) is fsck-less Even quick grunt responses are appreciated. We

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS on ext4?

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Simmons
Spinning this off as a separate thread . . . Is there anyone out there running oAFS on an ext4 filesystem? Even if it's only experimental, I'd be interested in your experience. Thanks, Steve___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on ext4?

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Steve Simmons wrote: Spinning this off as a separate thread . . . Is there anyone out there running oAFS on an ext4 filesystem? Even if it's only experimental, I'd be interested in your experience. Thanks, And now I see later in the other thread there's

Re: [OpenAFS] laptop use

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Derrick Brashear wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Thomas Briggs tbri...@cs.ship.edu wrote: I'm using OpenAFS 1.5.77 on Snow Leopard (10.6.4) on a laptop. Last night, I forgot to shutdown AFS before I left an internet connected world. When I opened up

Re: [OpenAFS] is this what windows folks call integrated login?

2010-08-23 Thread Steve Simmons
On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Dale Pontius wrote: Is there a piece of software that does this? It's been a long, long time since I used Windows, but it sounds like this feature is what the Windows client calls integrated login. Or maybe not. Either way, is there a way to get MacOS to do

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.4 (fs) - 1.5 (dafs) migration

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Simmons
On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Gémes Géza wrote: Initially I've planed to use the same ip address for the new server as the old had. But maybe vos move is a better approach. I have an almost empty partition, which I will empty up and reattach to the new server. My only remaining concern is

Re: [OpenAFS] user home directory replication

2010-08-06 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Dan Pritts wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:43:36AM -0700, Jonathan Nilsson wrote: I would like to replicate home directories (and other AFS volumes that are primarily accessed read/write) for the purpose of faster disaster recovery in certain common cases,

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS hangs, possible nat issues?

2010-05-20 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 19, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Simon Wilkinson wrote: On 19 May 2010, at 13:29, Mark Huijgen wrote: Would it be safe to apply this NAT ping functionality to the 1.4.x series also? Define safe. Funny, my boss asked me the same question. :-) Fortunately for us as OP, it appears our person

Re: [OpenAFS] delegate vos release command?

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 17, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Derrick Brashear wrote: At CMU we used emt, these days I'd use Russ Allbery's remctl. Seconded. We use remctl as well. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

[OpenAFS] AFS hangs, possible nat issues?

2010-05-14 Thread Steve Simmons
We've got a user here who's behind a firewall/nat and having some problems. The firewall is likely an aggressive, as it protects a hospital. He's running the stock Ubuntu 9.10 client, which he reports as being oafs version 1.4.11. The symptom is that he gets periodic hangs when accessing files

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of du

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 1, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: On Apr 30, 2010, at 14:32 , Richard Brittain wrote: This solves my immediate need, and I'll probably use your mount point database too, but begs the question of why perl's File::Find module works fine, while 'find' breaks.

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of du

2010-04-30 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:15 AM, Staffan Hämälä wrote: Is there a version of du that does not follow AFS mountpoints? If I try to do a 'du -sh *' in a directory that has some AFS mountpoints it inevitably fails after some time. It also takes a lot of time when it has to look through things

Re: [OpenAFS] OS X, AFS Home Directories and SSH/Unix Permissions

2010-04-14 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: Has anyone run into something like this? Is there a way to change the permissions AFS reports to OSX, or is there a work around I'm failing to see? Check out the RealModes setting. Edit /var/db/openafs/etc/config/settings.plist, and

Re: [OpenAFS] Modifying the output of vos commands to include server UUIDs

2010-04-14 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 13, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: I'm a long-time fan of having a switch that causes tools to dump their data in an easy-to-machine-parse format. That isn't always doable, but when it is, it's a big win. As Andrew pointed out in another reply in this thread, the

Re: [OpenAFS] Modifying the output of vos commands to include server UUIDs

2010-04-14 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: On 4/14/2010 10:51 AM, Steve Simmons wrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: I'm a long-time fan of having a switch that causes tools to dump their data in an easy-to-machine-parse format. That isn't always doable

Re: [OpenAFS] Modifying the output of vos commands to include server UUIDs

2010-04-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Todd Lewis wrote: Clearly the multi-line form is easier for humans to read, and the related-data-on-one-line form is far simpler for scripts to parse. By far. In both cases. Is there a place on the ballot to vote for... both, with a switch? I'm a long-time

Re: [OpenAFS] Performance issue with many volumes in a single /vicep?

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Steven Jenkins wrote: Could you provide filesystem information? (e.g., what filesystem, what parameters given/used by mkfs, etc) That information is often quite significant. So smart of me to drop the note and then leave for vacation. Selected file system values

Re: [OpenAFS] Performance issue with many volumes in a single /vicep?

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Tom Keiser wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Derrick Brashear sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu wrote: We've been seeing issues for a while that seem to relate to the number of volumes in a single vice

Re: [OpenAFS] Performance issue with many volumes in a single /vicep?

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 18, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: In the 1.4 series, the volume hash table size is just 128 which would produce (assuming even distributions) average hash chains of 160 to 220 volumes per bucket given the number of volumes you describe. This is quite long. In the 1.5

Re: [OpenAFS] Performance issue with many volumes in a single /vicep?

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Simmons
On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Steve Simmons s...@umich.edu writes: Our estimate too. But before drilling down, it seemed worth checking if anyone else has a similar server - ext3 with 14,000 or more volumes in a single vice partition - and has seen a difference. Note, tho

[OpenAFS] Performance issue with many volumes in a single /vicep?

2010-03-17 Thread Steve Simmons
We've been seeing issues for a while that seem to relate to the number of volumes in a single vice partition. The numbers and data are inexact because there are so many damned possible parameters that affect performance, but it appears that somewhere between 10,000 and 14,000 volumes

Re: [OpenAFS] Limit of clones

2009-11-02 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: The manpage for vos clone says there are a maximum of 7 clones using the namei fileserver. What is the reason for this limitation? The implementation uses only 3

Re: [OpenAFS] afs root partition creation issue

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 25, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Sriram Subramanian wrote: Hi, Im trying to understand the functioning of the AFS protocol and so I'm trying to set up an AFS client and server machine inside our lab. One of the steps require us to setup the afs root partition using the vos create command.

Re: [OpenAFS] Sysid file and name/addr/uuid confusion

2008-10-07 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:26 AM, Harald Barth wrote: for H in `vos listaddr -noauth | sort | uniq` ; do back up host H done Have you tried vos from 1.5.X which has the -noresolve? Does it give you more information? Can't say - we already fixed the problem on the afflicted host, and

Re: [OpenAFS] questions about volume size?

2008-10-07 Thread Steve Simmons
If you ever even once did a vos backup on the volume, the .backup volume still exists and still consumes space. Do a vos examine on the volume and see if it shows one. On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:12 AM, TIARA System Man wrote: hi harald, thanks for reply. however, i did not do vos backup. :)

Re: [OpenAFS] Volume root corruptions - anybody seen those?

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:18 AM, Rainer Toebbicke wrote: We've started a program of low rate preventive salvages of individual volumes (in -nowrite, per volume while fileserver is running, mainly to spot irregularities) and ran into the following problem . . . Sounds all logical for a

Re: [OpenAFS] Summary of recommended configuration options from the workshop

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 26, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: . . . Plus, a stable demand-attach is a good milestone for releasing 1.5 . . . Agreed. That said, do we have a milestone list for 1.5 becoming 1.6? ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list

Re: [OpenAFS] Summary of recommended configuration options from the workshop

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 26, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Esther Filderman wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Robert Banz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: however, with 1.4, fastrestart is teh bomb. ;) Yes, but it's teh bomb that can blow up in your face. Remember that the salvager is there to make sure you're volumes

Re: [OpenAFS] Summary of recommended configuration options from the workshop

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 29, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Steve Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On May 26, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: . . . Plus, a stable demand-attach is a good milestone for releasing 1.5 . . . Agreed. That said, do we have a milestone list for 1.5 becoming 1.6

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 13, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Steve Simmons wrote: We're a state-funded institution as well, so 501c(3) for OpenAFS doesn't mean that much to us. But it can make a big, big difference for corporations or individuals donating funds or equipment. If I had enough bucks

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 11, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Rodney M. Dyer wrote: At 11:42 AM 5/11/2008, Esther Filderman wrote: As it's own 501c3 corporation OpenAFS would be able to accept donations without a third party, something that would probably make it easier -- and more comfortable -- for many sites to do.

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 11, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: I think the politics of funding a foundation might be better served by continuing the relatively closed-access CVS repo. I think the two issues are pretty much independent. ___ OpenAFS-info

Re: [OpenAFS] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Simmons
Short answer: Go for it. I know I speak for the rest of the AFS support staff in our group at Umich when I say that. Any longer answer would most be echoing the individual points back at you going yeah, yeah. Steve ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list

Re: [OpenAFS] Weird client behaviour with openafs 1.4.5

2008-04-29 Thread Steve Simmons
On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Berthold Cogel wrote: Mike Garrison schrieb: On Apr 17, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Berthold Cogel wrote: [snip] Now I'm looking for some hints to debug this problem. Has anybody seen this before? The server is running openafs 1.2.13. 1.2.13? 1.2.13 was released

Re: [OpenAFS] vos dump (different afs server versions)

2008-04-14 Thread Steve Simmons
While I haven't used those particular linux versions, I have found that dump/restores work across every UNIX/linux flavor we've ever tried or seen - solaris, linux, RH, whatever. It should be completely OS- and AFS-version independent. Steve On Apr 14, 2008, at 5:47 AM, Vladimir Konrad

Re: [OpenAFS] vos changeloc

2008-02-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On Feb 12, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 12:31 PM, Andrew Bacchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any documentation on changeloc. Is this an old command, or newly added by OAFS? Any ideas on moving a volume without the original fileserver running?

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS benchmark improvements

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: The other was to salvage every single volume in the cell, attaching the orphans: bos salvage volume -orphans attach Sonofagun if my salvages on reboot didn't stop peppering me with complaints. We deleted all the dead files it found,

Re: [OpenAFS] Puzzler: lack of access to AFS files

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:06 PM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: ...Stupid things like re-using objects that were recently accessed because the queues did not track objects in the order of most recent use. Being forced to read data or directory entries from the file server that was just written by the

Re: [OpenAFS] Listing support and development vendors on www.openafs.org

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Simmons
I'm comfortable with the idea and with all three companies. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS benchmark improvements

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Simmons
I'm going to second a big chunk of what Jerry wrote. About five years ago I inherited an AFS cell that had been through some rough time and spent more than a little time cleaning. The end result was much faster service. Our performance was never as bad as Jerry's, but it was still nothing

Re: [OpenAFS] Which storage technology to use for terabytes of storage with AFS?

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Jason Edgecombe wrote: What types of storage technologies are other AFS sites using for their AFS vicep partitions? We need to figure our future direction for the next couple of years. Fibre channel seems all the rage, but it's quite expensive. I'm open to any and

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 3, 2007, at 9:53 AM, John Lockard wrote: I'm curious about those using ext3... Are you running ext3 with or without journaling? With. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.2.X and 1.4.5 Interoperation

2007-11-19 Thread Steve Simmons
On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Kevin Scott Sumner wrote: Is there ANYTHING that could POSSIBLY break when we have a mixture of these 1.2 and 1.4 servers running together? Version issues, OS issues, Endian issues, etc. I did pretty much what you describe going from old 1.2 to early 1.4

[OpenAFS] Job opening at Umich

2007-10-29 Thread Steve Simmons
Advance apologies to anybody who gets more than 1 copy; this is going to a number of lists. We have an opening for a programmer in our group at UM. The details of the posting are at the bottom, so you don't need to go hit our web page to see it. If you really must, see the posting, you'll

Re: [OpenAFS] Automatic move of volumes

2007-10-25 Thread Steve Simmons
I've got a variety of scripts to do volume moves in interesting ways, here's a summary: grabuser: Run it on an afs server, it moves the users volume 'here'. mvvols: read a list of volumes, move every n-th one as prescribed. Useful for thinning a file server. On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:34 PM,

Re: [OpenAFS] Automatic move of volumes

2007-10-24 Thread Steve Simmons
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Christopher D. Clausen wrote: Steven Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/07, Derrick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perl scripts exist to do it and I think have been posted here in the past; they may even deal with the RO already exists case. It would

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