At 3:08 PM +1000 on 12/12/99, Paul Sutton wrote:
Okay, well I have created one stack which allows a very simple
presentation to be created easily and this is achieved by adding buttons
for different functions etc, which then write pure HyperTalk into a field
(so that it can be easily viewed and
LOL. Good points.
At 9:43 PM -0700 on 12/11/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
"Since I built the engine, I'll design the drive train, suspension, and
wheels", said Anthony. And the group said, "Go for it, Anthony!"
I think Uli may be building the wheels (XBF) g.
"OK", said Alain. "Lets all meet here
At 12:48 PM -0500 on 12/11/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't vote because I couldn't care less about it's name.
Should of sent him a 'present' vote. That way we know people heard about
the vote.
At 1:10 PM -0800 on 12/11/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain: No harm done. It's our first vote. We are still
working out the kinks. One missed vote does not
exclude you or anyone else. But, in the future, please
try to vote each time, even if the issue being voted
on doesn't enthrall you.
Picking a
At 1:23 PM -0800 on 12/11/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain: I will make it available soon. The hitch is
that all of the messages are in Netscape Messenger,
and there is no convenient export feature. I am going
to have to save each message individually, unless
someone on this list has any
At 8:50 AM -0700 on 12/11/99, Rob Cozens wrote:
The partners decide through open discussion and public (not secret) voting.
I don't think we need secret voting, but we don't need voting posted on the
list, either.
I think maybe BugTracker's voting would work here. It could (if we wanted)
give
At 3:31 PM +0100 on 12/12/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I think this form of "do" won't be as much a problem, since it wouldn't
let Perl or AppleScript create/access local variables that were created in
HyperTalk. It wouldn't be fast, but since the text is passed to perl or
applescript it's not
At 3:47 PM +0100 on 12/12/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Or those who mind the hassle to get an FTP-client fired up and upload the
files... most of those still aren't user friendly and reliable enough.
Many are getting quite user friendly. Try NetFinder, Anarchie, etc. Look
like the Finder.
[I
Alain: I knew you were away for a while, Adrian.
Had I been a little less busy, it might have
occurred
to me to notify you by personal E-mail that a
FreeCard
vote was in progress. Perhaps we should include in
our
voting process a personal-notification of all
members
among the lessons
Uli: What is new syntax in your case? e.g. if I wanted
to add a command: laugh about value when
expression
would this be new syntax?
Anthony: Yes. But "laugh(value,expression)" is not.
Alain: Just like HyperCard. Any new command or
function must use the generic form of syntax that is
less
Alain: I prefer HTML, however, because plain-text
mail is rather limited and un-structured compared to
the multimedia and structuring possibilities of
HTML,
with or without CGI programs.
Uli: Now you're tempting me ... HTML is great for web
pages, but if you receive it via e-mail, many
At 2:16 PM -0800 on 12/12/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
commandName param1,param2,paramn
functionName (param1,param2,paramn)
Alain: Is this the only kind of syntax that you
envision people contributing to FreeCard?
At runtime it is. However, if you just want to create a special syntax for
a certain
At 2:01 PM -0800 on 12/12/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain: I knew you were away for a while, Adrian.
Had I been a little less busy, it might have
occurred
to me to notify you by personal E-mail that a
FreeCard
vote was in progress. Perhaps we should include in
our
voting process a
It's new syntax which takes some work.
I don't see a way around making new syntax harder...
Anthony,
what is new syntax in your case? E.g. if I wanted to add a command:
laugh about value when expression
would this be new syntax?
because it's got to be
parsed [that part is easy], bytecoded
Alain: We certainly hope so, but I am not sure that
Anthony is entirely convinced about the relevance
and/or advisability of including the DO command in
FreeScript.
Alain,
I think he's found a way to support it without slowing down the rest of
the language, which should be just fine. After
Alain: I knew you were away for a while, Adrian. Had I
been a little less busy, it might have occurred to me
to notify you by personal E-mail that a FreeCard vote
was in progress. Perhaps we should include in our
voting process a personal-notification of all members
among the lessons learned with
Hmm, I think the one thing that is wrong with MC's interface is the fact
that it uses palettes. They just get in the way. I much prefer HC's
semi-modal (can still switch to a different app) dialog interface. I
will see if I can do up a design for the interface I imagine soon, but I
can make no
Alain: Below is a much better illustration of the
power of the DO command. In a nutshell, it allows you
to mix-and-match three (3) different scripting
languages inside the same script: HyperTalk, Perl, and
AppleScript. And, moreover, params can be passed to
these other languages.
Alain,
I
I've tried to save a few of those I've seen posted (eg: Judy Perry's list
from the HC list).
Rob,
can you make them available, maybe on the web site? Or e-mail them to me
so i can put them up.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
For a real world example of FreeRx, pick up the Bourn Shell manual that
came with Berkeley Unix in the mid 1980s. One only needs to thumb through
three or four pages to realize each command in this UI was written totally
without regard to the rest of the commands. The commands were presented in
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