And I do believe a partner has a
responsibility to vote unless circumstances make it impossible to do so.
Fine. As long as 'present' is an option on all votes.
We're on the same page, Anthony: your "present" is my "abstain".
Rob Cozens, CCW
http://www.serendipitysoftware.com/who.html
"And I,
I'm also firmly against making voting a requirement for being a partner.
Uli, Alain, et al:
Just what responsibilities/obligations (if any) do partners have to the
partnership? Is it just a free ride to participate when how one desires
and shine it on when one feels like it?
If I am going to
At 12:48 PM -0500 on 12/11/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't vote because I couldn't care less about it's name.
Should of sent him a 'present' vote. That way we know people heard about
the vote.
Alain: I knew you were away for a while, Adrian. Had I
been a little less busy, it might have occurred to me
to notify you by personal E-mail that a FreeCard vote
was in progress. Perhaps we should include in our
voting process a personal-notification of all members
among the lessons learned with
Hmm, I think the one thing that is wrong with MC's interface is the fact
that it uses palettes. They just get in the way. I much prefer HC's
semi-modal (can still switch to a different app) dialog interface. I
will see if I can do up a design for the interface I imagine soon, but I
can make no
I would hate to think that my absense for a couple of weeks means that I
cannot become a partner
Hi Adrian,
I most certainly wouldn't want that to happen, Adrian
My goal was to use the name vote to also resolve a first cut in
establishing candidates for partnership. Since I did not offer this
Alain: It had not occurred to me that responsibility
of voting would be interpreted as a prerequisite that
no one ever miss a vote, or risk losing partnership
status. Your above statement conveys much better what
I was thinking. You too, eh Rob ?
Alain, et al:
I saw voting on the name as a
In a message dated 12/11/99 12:13:52 PM, you wrote:
Frankly, I was surprised that only six votes were cast (BTW, Uli, I have
not received confirmation that I voted). My thought was, "why should
people who aren't committed enough to this project to express an opinion
receive a partnership?".
I
Or do you disagree that voting should be a responsibility of partnership?
If I was picky, I'd say voting is a right, and whoever sees it as a
responsibility should move into a dictature for a few years to find out
why. But I'm not, and I don't want to start another discussion like that on
Uli: how the editor windows should
be layouted (I'd suggest moving away from HC's modal dialogs and heading
more for palettes), anything.
Hmm, I think the one thing that is wrong with MC's interface is the fact
that it uses palettes. They just get in the way. I much prefer HC's
semi-modal
At 12:16 AM +0100 on 12/10/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
If you feel better that way, e-mail that stuff to me and I'll take care of
the hassles of placing it on the web site so others on the list can examine
the designs.
And make sure not to mail him any uncompressed, 8.5x11 600ppi 24-bit TIFF
I will say though, this is a partnership, not a political democracy. All I
was asking for was the names of the people who voted, not how they voted.
In most partnerships and governing councils voting is not secret: each
partner/member looks the others in the eye and declares "Yea", "Nea", or "I
Or do you disagree that voting should be a responsibility of partnership?
If I was picky, I'd say voting is a right, and whoever sees it as a
responsibility should move into a dictature for a few years to find out
why. But I'm not, and I don't want to start another discussion like that on
Uli, as keeper of the vote can you tell us who has voted? It's possible
(though not likely) that someone's vote got lost in cyberspace and there
are seven or eight people who believe they are members of the "magnificent
six."
Rob,
I will not send a list of the people who voted to the list.
Rob Cozens : Sorry I didn't get back on this in a
timely manner... What I wanted to suggest was that the
vote be extended a few days ...
Alain: While I am quite satisfied with FreeCard, I
have no objections to extending the vote.
Rob Cozens : ..with the understanding that
participating in group
At 10:24 PM +0100 on 12/7/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Alain: While I am quite satisfied with FreeCard, I
have no objections to extending the vote.
Folks,
the vote ran over two weeks. I think who didn't vote in that amount of
time didn't want to ... I'm not sure I'm all for going around and
Julian Blackhirst : Does our script language have to
end in "talk"? So many already do that a beginner
could become confused and it makes you think it is
associated with speech software. Why not call it
"FreeScript", or something else.
Anthony : I agree! And it sounds _much_ better, too.
Alain
Alain: While I am quite satisfied with FreeCard, I
have no objections to extending the vote.
Folks,
the vote ran over two weeks. I think who didn't vote in that amount of
time didn't want to ... I'm not sure I'm all for going around and extending
votes, as we've already cancelled the vote
Uli : I actually once made an XCMD collection of this
name (PowerCard), but I never released them.
Alain: Sounds .. interesting!
Alain: Do you still have them? What do they do? ...
Alain,
it was just a few Xes; xPrompt, ShowBalloon and one to get a stack's
pathname (obsolete from the
At 9:18 PM +0100 on 10/31/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
It means: The power supply on the nice, old, Sun server I was given arced,
I get to fix it, and I think the VolksCard name is loony.
Anthony,
either I refuse to get the insult, or I don't get the connection between a
server's trafo and the
And externals writtin in Java would be _real_ neat. Hmmm... sounds like a
good use for Java.
Please, please, please don't even think about writing externals in Java.
The java VM takes up about 5Mb of RAM and takes too long to load (G3
300Mhz). The first (and possible all) call to an external
Anyway, you're probably right. That you have these bad associations is
proof enough to me that others might have them, too,
Hmm... I've always been told that it was actually started by the Nazi's.
Time to go find a good history book.
Anthony, Uli, et al:
As the son of a US B-17 pilot and born
Uli : Anyway, you're probably right. That you have
these bad associations is proof enough to me that
others might have them, too, so we'd better settle for
another one.
Alain: We have been out-voted, eh!
Uli: Still, here's my list of new ones that I like:
Joker (it's a "wildcard")
Cardz
At 9:04 PM -0400 on 10/30/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Much code I have seen disagrees with you.
Much of the code you've seen is old.
Probably. I think I've seen some new stuff like that, too, though. Maybe
from some diehard goto users.
Overloading is C++, not C, right?
Yes.
At 5:37 PM +0100 on 10/30/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
I think you've all blown a transformer or something.
Anthony,
excuse me?
It means: The power supply on the nice, old, Sun server I was given arced,
I get to fix it, and I think the VolksCard name is loony.
And externals writtin in Java
At 5:45 PM +0100 on 10/30/99, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
Anyway, you're probably right. That you have these bad associations is
proof enough to me that others might have them, too,
Hmm... I've always been told that it was actually started by the Nazi's.
Time to go find a good history book.
It means: The power supply on the nice, old, Sun server I was given arced,
I get to fix it, and I think the VolksCard name is loony.
Anthony,
either I refuse to get the insult, or I don't get the connection between a
server's trafo and the VolksCard name ... (pick one, please)
I hope so too.
I think you've all blown a transformer or something.
Anthony,
excuse me?
Alain: It doesn't seem likely to me. Externals that
make calls to the Mac Toolbox are surely impossible to
port, unless you re-code those parts of the toolbox
that you will need (I suppose).
I'd say we should export
At 6:00 PM -0700 on 10/25/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Here is a page containing most of the names that have
been floating around the list :
http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/OpenKardNames.html
Alain, the webserver is spitting out a 403 permission denied error.
At 3:09 PM -0700 on 10/26/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Eric: Also nu in french means naked, so i do not think
nuCard is such a good idea...
Alain: On the contrary, a name like that would
probably attract their attention, as evidenced by its
preponderance in advertising, eh! ;-)
And it comes with
At 6:29 PM -0700 on 10/26/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
Alain: BASIC is closer to being a "real" programming
language than HyperTalk is.
HyperTalk is a _far_ better language than basic. Basic has many--um--design
problems, to say the least.
In a message dated 10/30/99 3:48:40 AM, you wrote:
HyperTalk is a _far_ better language than basic. Basic has many--um--design
problems, to say the least.
Design problems! WHY! I'll teach you to badmouth BASIC!
*Punch*
*Uppercut*
There, that suits you right! To tell you the truth, the only
At 4:55 AM -0400 on 10/30/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Design problems! WHY! I'll teach you to badmouth BASIC!
*Punch*
*Uppercut*
That wasn't very nice of you...
*Electrodes*
*b-zap!*
:-)
There, that suits you right! To tell you the truth, the only thing that I
find BASIC to lack is the
In a message dated 10/30/99 10:40:59 AM, you wrote:
There, that suits you right! To tell you the truth, the only thing that I
find BASIC to lack is the ability to make a data type, and to do sizeof().
Lacking data types is a major problem, IMO. Sizeof is not so bad. Also bad
is the need for
At 2:45 PM -0400 on 10/30/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/30/99 10:40:59 AM, you wrote:
There, that suits you right! To tell you the truth, the only thing that I
find BASIC to lack is the ability to make a data type, and to do sizeof().
Lacking data types is a major problem,
Much code I have seen disagrees with you.
Much of the code you've seen is old.
First, GOSUB replaced it, but it
didn't allow local variables, so SUB replaced gosub, which functions exactly
like a C function.
Without user defined, overloaded types, etc.
Overloading is C++, not C, right?
Julian Blackhirst: Here are some names i came up with:
AuthorCard, HyperBuilder, RapidCard, UniCard,
MultimediaCard, RebelCard, FreedomCard, HarmonyCard,
HyperStack, StudioCard, PaxCard, HyperDev, MaxCard,
WildCard, WildMedia
Alain: Thank you Julian. Your name suggestions have
been added to our
Regarding Tax Law in Quebec: If it is pertinent to this project, let me
know/ask.
Basically the Canadian tax system is pretty similar to the US system
except for the VAT. I am happy to research this if needed for this project.
Has anyone contacted Eric Chatonnet (sp?) He has written a few books
Here are some names i came up with:
AuthorCard (have to see if its taken or not)
HyperBuilder
RapidCard
UniCard (as in universal)
MultimediaCard (MM-Card for short)
RebelCard
FreedomCard
HarmonyCard
HyperStack (a bit boring)
StudioCard
PaxCard
HyperDev
my 2 cents...
i like both hyperRAD and freeRADICALS
um, a lot.
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Eric: I agree that whatever name is chosen should
'link' to HC, but if it could also link to www so much
the better.
Alain: Agreed on both counts. I will nonetheless put
up a page of naming-guidelines that members of our
group will be able to vote on.
Eric: (since, i think the HC interface
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