Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have joined the development mailing list. Waiting for my fist mail. Which dev list? :-) One note of concern that I will research. If someone starts with a .html file and adds php content, then uploads it and renames it to .php, a script could

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Fontfreedom
In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:33:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, FontFreedom, ... but I really want to have a non-copyleft openfontlibrary. Why? If we are not using copyleft licenses, what are you proposing to use in place? Copy - Center licenses, Such as:

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: designed specifically to help these authors protect their works so that they can do what they really want to do with them -- share them with the community! NO! SIL OFL does not allow them to share their fonts in a way which allows others to make modifications to a

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's what's been used with many fonts currently in the openfontlibrary. Some people have said their (software, font, clipart, whatever) is public domain, then attached conditions which are totally incompatible with dedicating something to the public domain. I

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do not trust the OFLB license labelling. I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves, eg, http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/tarzeau/321 ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list

[Openfontlibrary] oflb.org and switching domains

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, I've bought these domains just now: openfontlibrary.info oflb.info oflb.org I suggest we make all the domains redirect to oflb.org and get that promoted as the main URL, then fewer new people will think to go to openfontlibrary.com. Or is that risky? The current domain has some

[Openfontlibrary] CC-BY(-SA) Fonts

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The CC-BY License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ This license requires attribution - and for any *reuse* or distribution, requires that the original license terms must be made clear to others. Does this mean if someone uses a font

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-04 Thread H
2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The re-use of name logo is at best bad form... Its a sad move, they could use something else, I suggest them publicfonts as the name :) We need developers! Yes he certainly does, :) All the best, as mentioned in mails above. -- H IRC :

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Brendan Ferguson
Sounds like you are an expert around here :-) But I have not done any coding in 4 years.. Brendan ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Weiner
Hi, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Getting the file onto the server is the first big step in launching an attack. We can set the webserver to send files for download, so neither the webserver or webbrowser will interpret them. So could we

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Brendan Ferguson
We can set the webserver to send files for download, so neither the webserver or webbrowser will interpret them. I imagine that even if the files are set for download, they will be interpreted. If say I setup a GIF for PHP to run through it, and then force the download header, it will

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 08:20 +, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/11/3 Ed Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea here

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Rob Myers wrote: Is the name a problem, project identity-wise? I do foresee general confusion, but I won't argue over that till I'm blue in the face. I have better things to do. I just hope that initiator of the second project is

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-04 Thread Christopher Fynn
Nicolas Spalinger wrote: I also hope there will be a reasonable resolution to this with no bad consequences for the momentum of the OFLB. The re-use of name logo is at best bad form... A breach of copyright :-)? He says: We felt a split, and/or rebellion was needed. although, as far as I

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Jon Phillips
I disagree. We make it clear what fonts should be under. And, if one submits their fonts and not under the terms allowed, we should delete the fonts and/or look to support the option if their is sufficient uptake for the license after review. The last thing we need is license proliferation,

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, Chris, Releasing a font under GPL or OFL license simply ensures the font can freely be used or modified by anyone and that no one can claim proprietary or commercial rights. If somebody does want a similar font to sell under a commercial license I'm perfectly willing to develop one for

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The re-use of name logo is at best bad form... A breach of copyright :-)? Well, trademark :-) We need developers! Yes he certainly does, LOL ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Christopher Fynn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:33:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, FontFreedom, ... but I really want to have a non-copyleft openfontlibrary. Why? If we are not using copyleft licenses, what are you

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/11/4 Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:24 +, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/11/4 Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do not trust the OFLB license labelling. I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves I disagree. We

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Christopher Fynn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO! SIL OFL does not allow them to share their fonts in a way which allows others to make modifications to a font, then re-release the font under the license of their own choosing. As the developer of a font on OFLB (Jomolhari) I don't mind others modifying my

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is not really my area of expertise. I was primarily a php programmer who made websites, content management systems and such. Also did website design using DHTML and Usability. Sounds like you are an expert around here :-) The extent of unix

Re: [Openfontlibrary] oflb.org and switching domains

2008-11-04 Thread Jon Phillips
Just because of one person we should change urls? I don't agree whatsoever and its bad SEO tech and bad policy to move that easily. Good to have other domains, but all you need is one clear canonical url and not confuse people. Jon On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 12:39 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Say, will any of the font source files read like a unix script file with #!/ as the first bits of information in the file? Maybe. There is a font on OFLB now that is a SFD and has a makeOTF.sh file uploaded too. I forget which one though :(

Re: [Openfontlibrary] oflb.org and switching domains

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Dave Crossland wrote: I suggest we make all the domains redirect to oflb.org and get that promoted as the main URL, then fewer new people will think to go to openfontlibrary.com. I personally don't understand why openfontlibrary.com is a good domain for public

Re: [Openfontlibrary] oflb.org and switching domains

2008-11-04 Thread Nicu Buculei
Jon Phillips wrote: Just because of one person we should change urls? I don't agree whatsoever and its bad SEO tech and bad policy to move that easily. I agree with Rejon here about the SEO part. Having font in the domain name is a good boost for our position in search results. Good to have

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/4 Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:24 +, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/11/4 Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do not trust the OFLB license labelling. I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves I disagree. We make it clear what

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/3 Ed Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea here seems quite similar to what the *Nix file command does. If

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Karl Berry
However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for profit The OFL does allow selling fonts, both the original and a modified version (otherwise it would not be a free license). For instance, there are OFL'd fonts in the TeX Live distribution, and we (the TeX Users

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Fontfreedom
In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for profit or falling under a commercial or proprietary license - or someone making minor modifications and copyrighting them. That would

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 20:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for profit or falling under a commercial or proprietary license - or