Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Does anyone know Stani's email?

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-12 Thread Pierre Marchand
Vous avez écrit : > Stani Michiels of SPE and Phatch fame came up with a POC python script > to create a obfuscated visual fingerprint of a font with its own shapes > to allow comparison and matching. Hi, I would be interested to have the script if possible and compare it to the system used in Fo

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-11 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi, > > I brought this up in my talk at lgm2009, should be online at > river-valley.tv soon, and one of the attendees > suggested we ask foundries to have whoever looks out on the web for > their stuff being redistributed without authorisation to ke

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, There are books on font identification algos for people to use - size and bracket on n serifs, are the a or g double story, ratio of ascender to x height in h, ratio of i stem, stuff like this - and PANOSE2 has a load of this stuff. Font classification is a recent interest of mine, need to kno

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, I brought this up in my talk at lgm2009, should be online at river-valley.tvsoon, and one of the attendees suggested we ask foundries to have whoever looks out on the web for their stuff being redistributed without authorisation to keep an eye on our 'new uploads' rss feed. They have access to

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 09:13 +0600, Christopher Fynn wrote: [...] > > Wouldn't you have to have access to the > (c) / proprietary fonts in order to do this? Probably, but, it's not inconceivable to me either. Liam > > - C -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pi

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ed Trager wrote: > Is this the idea you had, or some other idea? What I have in mind is a tool to help admins easier check uploaded fonts in case of (c) infridgement complains. WTF is great for that. Alexandre

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Christopher Fynn
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Ed Trager wrote: But I assume that the problem you are really trying to address is one of people copying glyph outlines into a new font that they claim to be their own? Yes For that kind of situation, one would, I assume, have

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Jan Claeys
Op vrijdag 08-05-2009 om 15:36 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Ben Weiner: > I think that reading the license from the file is a good thing to do. I > think trying to match outlines is less good. The first is like a tick in > a box ("Is this font correctly licensed?"). The second is like saying >

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Olivier BERTEN
Maybe this is what you're talking about... http://www.fontmatrix.net/node/44 Olivier Liam R E Quin a écrit : On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:42 -0400, Ed Trager wrote: Hi, Alexandre, [...] But it works Does it? These tools do work for the most common case of a copied a

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:42 -0400, Ed Trager wrote: > Hi, Alexandre, [...] > > But it works > > Does it? These tools do work for the most common case of a copied and possibly renamed font, and that's more common than one might hope. Due diligence in respecting other people's licenses, even where

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, all, On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Ben Weiner wrote: > Hi, > > Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Maybe we should have some kind of WhatTheFont client in admin panel to >> check uploaded fonts for being actually (c) typefaces > > As Ed Trager says in his reply, Fontaine reads lice

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, Alexandre, On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Ed Trager wrote: > >> But I assume that the problem you are really trying to address is one >> of people copying glyph outlines into a new font that they claim to be >> their own? > > Yes

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Ben Weiner
Hi, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Hi, Maybe we should have some kind of WhatTheFont client in admin panel to check uploaded fonts for being actually (c) typefaces As Ed Trager says in his reply, Fontaine reads license fields from uploaded fonts. Fontaine is an important part of the OFLB not leas

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Ed Trager wrote: > But I assume that the problem you are really trying to address is one > of people copying glyph outlines into a new font that they claim to be > their own? Yes >  For that kind of situation, one would, I assume, have to > try to match glyph outl

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] use of (c) typefaces

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Trager
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe we should have some kind of WhatTheFont client in admin panel to > check uploaded fonts for being actually (c) typefaces? How does one do that? Tell us the technical details. The program I wrote, Fontaine, determines t