Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Fontfreedom
In a message dated 11/2/2008 10:26:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 01:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The single priority I have for openfontlibrary is: Creating a new > openfontlibrary without any copyleft fonts. (and banning any new one

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/2 Liam R E Quin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Maybe it would be better if OFL In order to defuse confusion between Open Font License and the Open Font Library, I've been promoting "OFLB" as the acronym for the latter. I hope you'll consider this :-) _

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Jon Phillips
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:24 +, Dave Crossland wrote: > 2008/11/3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > let people search and filter by licence? > > That's the essence of the compromise I have suggested. > > > That's a fine feature request...However, I still want there to be an open > > font site wi

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Jon Phillips
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 04:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 11/2/2008 10:26:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 01:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The single priority I have for openfontlibrary is: >

[Openfontlibrary] Canadian Public Domain

2008-11-03 Thread Brendan Ferguson
> > Here in Canada there's no such thing as public domain. http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5809 Is my recollection that copyright actually expires before US copyright in canada. I seem to remember that they use to be on par, but that the united states increased there copyright length

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Canadian Public Domain

2008-11-03 Thread Jon Phillips
Yes, that is my project: http://creativecommons.org/projects/pdwiki Jon On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:01 -0500, Brendan Ferguson wrote: > > > > Here in Canada there's no such thing as public domain. > > http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5809 > > Is my recollection that copyright actually expi

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/2 Alexandre Prokoudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Fontfreedom wrote: > >> Initially, Openfontlibrary was created as a place for fonts dedicated to the >> Public Domain. > > I really don't know what made you jump at this conslusion. When I was > pinging rejon thr

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Brendan Ferguson
>> > > By "headers" Ed means "the first few bytes of the file". So the "file" > command does indeed identify PHP files perfectly: > > I will take your word on it. I am clearly not up to date on this. Will it detect a PHP file with a .html file if I have enabled PHP support in .html files? Bren

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> By "headers" Ed means "the first few bytes of the file". So the "file" >> command does indeed identify PHP files perfectly: > > I will take your word on it. I am clearly not up to date on this. Pehraps the "file" manual will help? :-) $ man fi

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > let people search and filter by licence? That's the essence of the compromise I have suggested. > That's a fine feature request...However, I still want there to be an open > font site without any copyleft fonts, and which encourages people > considering relea

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It sounds like you are describing user security. This is really a server > security issue for me. > > Take a PHP file. What headers will it have? NONE! By "headers" Ed means "the first few bytes of the file". So the "file" command does indeed ide

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Ben Weiner
Hi, Just to add a bookend: ccHost ships with two means of filtering files. Both are additive - IOW nothing is allowed until explicitly permitted (I prefer thi, and ccHost is at v5...) The two methods: - clever: getID3 (php file identifying lib). Useless to OFLB ATM as nobody's added and fonts

[Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Dave Crossland
http://www.openfontlibrary.com/ :-( ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, FontFreedom, > ... but I really want to have a non-copyleft > openfontlibrary. Why? If we are not using "copyleft" licenses, what are you proposing to use in place? The whole reason for copyright law is to provide legal protections to authors of creative works, is it not? We now have enthu

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Brendan Ferguson
Could you point me to the page for this script? I would like to read more about it. I have joined the development mailing list. Waiting for my fist mail. One note of concern that I will research. If someone starts with a .html file and adds php content, then uploads it and renames it to .ph

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, Brendan, The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea here seems quite similar to what the *Nix "file" command does. If someone were to look at the *nix "

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Canadian Public Domain

2008-11-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:01 -0500, Brendan Ferguson wrote: > > > > Here in Canada there's no such thing as public domain. > > http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5809 Hmm, dated 2006 and no comments. > Is my recollection that copyright actually expires before US copyright > in canada. It

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Canadian Public Domain

2008-11-03 Thread Rob Myers
> The term "public domain" is soemtimes used in Canada to refer > to the body of works whose copyright has expired, I think. Yes this is the same in the UK. And dedicating work to the public domain may be a more complex matter than in the US. But "public domain" is still a useful shorthand for c

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Rob Myers
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> http://www.openfontlibrary.com/ > > *shrugs shoulders* > > Well, the best of luck to them. Indeed. May the best project win. Or peaceful coexistence ensue. Is the name a problem, project identity-wise? - Rob

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Non-Copyleft Openfontlibrary

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Ed Trager wrote: > The whole reason for copyright law is to provide legal protections to > authors of creative works, is it not? It is not. Sure, it's what copyright laws usually pretend to be, but never actually care to become. Alexandre

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > http://www.openfontlibrary.com/ *shrugs shoulders* Well, the best of luck to them. Alexandre ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mai

Re: [Openfontlibrary] openfontlibrary.com

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Rob Myers wrote: > Is the name a problem, project identity-wise? I do foresee general confusion, but I won't argue over that till I'm blue in the face. I have better things to do. I just hope that initiator of the second project is a reasonable person who won't put

Re: [Openfontlibrary] ccHost compression

2008-11-03 Thread Jon Phillips
Yes, I think worthy. We have done this for SVG on http://openclipart.org Its for more than just id3 now ;) Should be more like readWriteMetadataWithPHP() ;) Jon On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 16:46 -0500, Ed Trager wrote: > Hi, Brendan, > > The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/