2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I have joined the development mailing list. Waiting for my fist mail.
Which dev list? :-)
> One note of concern that I will research. If someone starts with a .html
> file and adds php content, then uploads it and renames it to .php, a script
>
In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:33:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Hi, FontFreedom,
> ... but I really want to have a non-copyleft
> openfontlibrary.
>Why?
If we are not using "copyleft" licenses, what are you proposing to use in
place?
Copy - Center licenses, Such
2008/11/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>designed specifically to help these authors protect their works so
>>that they can do what they really want to do with them -- share them
>>with the community!
>
> NO! SIL OFL does not allow them to share their fonts in a way which allows
> others to make modificat
2008/11/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It's what's been used with many fonts currently in the openfontlibrary. Some
> people have said their (software, font, clipart, whatever) is public
> domain, then attached conditions which are totally incompatible with
> dedicating something to the public domain
2008/11/4 Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Do not trust the OFLB license labelling.
I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves, eg,
http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/tarzeau/321
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Hi,
I've bought these domains just now:
openfontlibrary.info
oflb.info
oflb.org
I suggest we make all the domains redirect to oflb.org and get that
promoted as the main URL, then fewer new people will think to go to
openfontlibrary.com.
Or is that risky? The current domain has some recognition,
2008/11/4 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> getID3() reads/writes metadata to diff. file formats with standard type
> of metadata per format and not just ID3...that is just for mp3.
Oh, ok. Does it do fonts?
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2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The CC-BY License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
>
> This license requires attribution - and for any *reuse* or distribution,
> requires that the original license terms must be made clear to others.
>
> Does this mean if someone uses
Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Say, will any of the font source files read like a unix script file with #!/
>> as the first bits of information in the file?
>
> Maybe. There is a font on OFLB now that is a SFD and has a
> "makeOTF.sh" file uploaded too.
2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The re-use of name & logo is at best bad form...
>
Its a sad move, they could use something else,
I suggest them "publicfonts" as the name :)
> > "We need developers!"
> > Yes he certainly does,
>
:) All the best, as mentioned in mails above.
>
> Sounds like you are an expert around here :-)
>
But I have not done any coding in 4 years..
Brendan
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Hi,
Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Getting the
>> file onto the server is the first big step in launching an attack.
>>
>
> We can set the webserver to send files for download, so neither the
> webserver or webbrowser will interpret them.
>
> S
Yes, agree. Best is for us to keep our noses down and kick some ass by
picking up a shovel.
One solid URL with good content is better than a million splinter
projects.
Jon
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 14:58 +, H wrote:
>
>
>
> 2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
2008/11/4 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Good to have other domains, but all you need is one clear canonical url
> and not confuse people.
Okay, cool :-)
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> We can set the webserver to send files for download, so neither the
> webserver or webbrowser will interpret them.
I imagine that even if the files are set for download, they will be
interpreted. If say I setup a GIF for PHP to run through it, and then
force the download header, it will prob
>
> Which dev list? :-)
>
ccHost Dev List
>> One note of concern that I will research. If someone starts with
>> a .html
>> file and adds php content, then uploads it and renames it to .php,
>> a script
>> could be executed if the detect script does not register it as a
>> php file
>
> I'v
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 08:20 +, Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/3 Ed Trager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It
> > might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize
> > the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea
On Nov 3, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Ed Trager wrote:
> Hi, Brendan,
>
> The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It
> might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize
> the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea here seems quite
> similar to what the *Nix "
Ed Trager wrote:
> Hi, Chris,
>
>> Releasing a font under GPL or OFL license simply ensures the font can
>> freely be used or modified by anyone and that no one can claim
>> proprietary or commercial rights.
>>
>> If somebody does want a similar font to sell under a commercial license
>> I'm perfe
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Rob Myers wrote:
>
>> Is the name a problem, project identity-wise?
>
> I do foresee general confusion, but I won't argue over that till I'm
> blue in the face. I have better things to do. I just hope that
> initiator of the second pro
Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> I also hope there will be a reasonable resolution to this with no bad
> consequences for the momentum of the OFLB.
> The re-use of name & logo is at best bad form...
A breach of copyright :-)?
He says:
"We felt a split, and/or rebellion was needed."
although, as far a
I disagree. We make it clear what fonts should be under. And, if one
submits their fonts and not under the terms allowed, we should delete
the fonts and/or look to support the option if their is sufficient
uptake for the license after review.
The last thing we need is license proliferation, spread
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've bought these domains just now:
>
> openfontlibrary.info
> oflb.info
> oflb.org
>
> I suggest we make all the domains redirect to oflb.org and get that
> promoted as the main URL
+ easier to type in
- not self-explanatory when yo
Hi, Chris,
>
> Releasing a font under GPL or OFL license simply ensures the font can
> freely be used or modified by anyone and that no one can claim
> proprietary or commercial rights.
>
> If somebody does want a similar font to sell under a commercial license
> I'm perfectly willing to develop o
2008/11/4 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The re-use of name & logo is at best bad form...
>
> A breach of copyright :-)?
Well, trademark :-)
> "We need developers!"
> Yes he certainly does,
LOL
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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:33:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Hi, FontFreedom,
>
> > ... but I really want to have a non-copyleft
> > openfontlibrary.
>
> >Why?
>
> If we are not using "copyleft" licenses,
Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/4 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:24 +, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>> 2008/11/4 Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Do not trust the OFLB license labelling.
>>> I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves
>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> NO! SIL OFL does not allow them to share their fonts in a way which
> allows others to make modifications to a font, then re-release the font
> under the license of their own choosing.
As the developer of a font on OFLB (Jomolhari) I don't mind others
modifying my fo
2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> This is not really my area of expertise. I was primarily a php
> programmer who made websites, content management systems and such.
> Also did website design using DHTML and Usability.
Sounds like you are an expert around here :-)
> The extent o
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:32 +, Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/4 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > getID3() reads/writes metadata to diff. file formats with standard type
> > of metadata per format and not just ID3...that is just for mp3.
>
> Oh, ok. Does it do fonts?
I don't see font
2008/11/3 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Getting the
> file onto the server is the first big step in launching an attack.
We can set the webserver to send files for download, so neither the
webserver or webbrowser will interpret them.
So could we accept all files, but make them only fo
Just because of one person we should change urls? I don't agree
whatsoever and its bad SEO tech and bad policy to move that easily.
Good to have other domains, but all you need is one clear canonical url
and not confuse people.
Jon
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 12:39 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Ed Trager wrote:
>
>> The whole reason for copyright law is to provide legal protections to
>> authors of creative works, is it not?
>
> It is not. Sure, it's what copyright laws usually pretend to be, but
> never actually care to bec
2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Say, will any of the font source files read like a unix script file with #!/
> as the first bits of information in the file?
Maybe. There is a font on OFLB now that is a SFD and has a
"makeOTF.sh" file uploaded too. I forget which one though :(
_
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Dave Crossland wrote:
> I suggest we make all the domains redirect to oflb.org and get that
> promoted as the main URL, then fewer new people will think to go to
> openfontlibrary.com.
I personally don't understand why openfontlibrary.com is a good domain
for public d
Jon Phillips wrote:
> Just because of one person we should change urls? I don't agree
> whatsoever and its bad SEO tech and bad policy to move that easily.
I agree with Rejon here about the SEO part. Having "font" in the domain
name is a good boost for our position in search results.
> Good to h
2008/11/4 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:24 +, Dave Crossland wrote:
>> 2008/11/4 Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >
>> > Do not trust the OFLB license labelling.
>>
>> I've updated the site to warn people to check font files themselves
>
> I disagree. We mak
2008/11/4 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I imagine that even if the files are set for download, they will be
> interpreted.
That's not my understanding; please test it out and see :-)
> Probably. But you will not be able to view any of the images any more, the
> browser would be treati
2008/11/3 Ed Trager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> The PHP getId3() library is at http://getid3.sourceforge.net/. It
> might be worth looking into how to expand this library to recognize
> the TTF and OTF file headers, perhaps? The idea here seems quite
> similar to what the *Nix "file" command does.
However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for
profit
The OFL does allow selling fonts, both the original and a modified
version (otherwise it would not be a free license). For instance, there
are OFL'd fonts in the TeX Live distribution, and we (the TeX Users
Group)
In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
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writes:
>However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for
>profit or falling under a commercial or proprietary license - or someone
>making minor modifications and copyrighting them. That wou
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 20:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
> PROTECTED]
> writes:
> >However I don't want to see any version of that font being sold for
> >profit or falling under a commercial or proprietary license - or
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