Re: Bootstrapping OpenPKG-4.0b81 fails

2009-09-21 Thread Stefan Palm
 For OpenPKG I in the meantime will just disable the 
 whole mkdtemp stuff as it is currently not used at all.
 OpenPKG 4.0b82 and above will have this fixed.

Ok, openpkg-4.0b84-20090920 now builds fine.
Now let's see if OpenPKG is of any use for me. ;-)

Thanks,
Stefan
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Project status/future

2009-09-21 Thread Stefan Palm
Hi there.

1) After playing around a little with OpenPKG I'm wondering about this
projects status. The last (official) release is dated from 2007-12-27,
quite a lot of pages at openpkg.org are outdated and the mailings list
seem to be rather quiet. All this gave me the impression that this
project is about to fade away. Is that correct?

2) The FAQ states that someday OpenPKG might support dynamically
linked (internal) libs. Are there any news on that?


Bye,
Stefan

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Re: Project status/future

2009-09-21 Thread Ralf S. Engelschall
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009, Stefan Palm wrote:

 1) After playing around a little with OpenPKG I'm wondering about this
 projects status. The last (official) release is dated from 2007-12-27,
 quite a lot of pages at openpkg.org are outdated and the mailings list
 seem to be rather quiet. All this gave me the impression that this
 project is about to fade away. Is that correct?

No, OpenPKG certainly is not fading away. We were just too busy with
other earn-a-living jobs and OpenPKG 4.0 was still not ready until
recently. Hence we kept the websites around until we have something
new. Now that OpenPKG 4.0 is stable and already working on lots of
production servers, it will be officially released soon -- together with
a new website. That the last official bootstrap is from 2007-12-27 was
intentionally, as this was the last time we updated the old RPM 4 based
bootstrap. Since this time we worked on the RPM 5 based one for OpenPKG
4.0.

 2) The FAQ states that someday OpenPKG might support dynamically
 linked (internal) libs. Are there any news on that?

No, not worth the effort as even in the days of GNU libtool it is an
endless effort when it comes to true cross-platform solutions like
OpenPKG. And beside faster updates in case of security issues (because
you don't have to rebuild the application) there is no real advantage
in practice. The disadvantages (portability issues) fully destroy the
advantages.
   Ralf S. Engelschall
   r...@engelschall.com
   www.engelschall.com

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Re: Project status/future

2009-09-21 Thread Jeff Johnson


On Sep 21, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote:



No, not worth the effort as even in the days of GNU libtool it is an
endless effort when it comes to true cross-platform solutions like
OpenPKG. And beside faster updates in case of security issues (because
you don't have to rebuild the application) there is no real advantage
in practice. The disadvantages (portability issues) fully destroy the
advantages.


What's the actual engineering issue with dynamic vs static?

Is it just that there's too many flavors of dynamic linking?

Just curious, not questioning at all.

73 de Jeff
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