From: Jim Williams sphere1...@gmail.com
Not only do I not want to do development, I want to use the system
which was developed. ... So, you may drop dead for all I care. You
are not helping to protect my environment.
Whoooaaa Jim... take it easy... that's way out of order in an open
Could it be that some libraries need updating on some platforms to
make the new map generation code work?
I get many instances of this error on a PC Windows 8.1 Pro 64 but
system when I uopdated to r/24298 with the Varregion code in it when I enable
[Map]
RenderMeshes = true;
11:31:18
Mister Blue write:
Instructions for varregions at
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/varregionhttp://opensimulator.org/wiki/varregion
I wonder if the various OpenSim.ini requirements are now historical
and no longer are valid if var regions are used? is this a change
in the wiki page that is
On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Mister Blue
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-devmisterblue at
misterblue.com wrote:
I will fix BulletSim to force the terrain implementation
(heightmap vs mesh) to force heightmap if the physics area is larger
than 256x256. That will fix the
MB, is the zlib.net assembly error related to Rendermeshes = true one
you wish me to log on Mantis or is it a fix you know how to make. If
its a platform specific thing I saw the errors (many of them) on
Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit on on an Intel i7 PC.
Could it be that some libraries need
MB, is the zlib.net assembly error related to Rendermeshes = true one
you wish me to log on Mantis or is it a fix you know how to make. If
its a platform specific thing I saw the errors (many of them) on
Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit on on an Intel i7 PC.
Could it be that some libraries need
It would be helpful of we can get a good clear It's Okay Now
from Melanie and Mister Blue when they feel GIT master is good to go again.
BulletSim is the default physics engine, and I see that the new
additions need some changes to work with that, so can we also be
clear when things are
Thanks Justin. I looked more closely at this especially as Offline
IM V2 has stopped working since we moved to .NET 4.0 (r/24020 works,
r/24051 fails) and I have not yet found any cause.. and I see V2 and
original modules are loaded for both Offline IM and
Groups/Groups/IM... its tricky and
Thanks for checking things Michael and Zadark.
We are making progress as discussed in the comments attached to:
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6846
We have found that in some environments that an extra line is needed
in the remote section of the Robust.exe.config and
At 11:00 18/11/2013, Zadark Portal wrote:
Reference. For VS 2013
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/07/24/msbuild-is-now-part-of-visual-studio.aspx
Given this information about how MSBuild is being repackaged... I am
wondering if Visual Studio 2010 Express - or any VS/VC#
Zardak.. just to be clear, I have never used one of the .sln solution
files directly and don't create systems with Visual Studio or Visual
C# EXpress. I only installed Visual C# 2010 Express because we were
told that was required to use the new 0.8.0 GIT Master versions that
are built using
From: Zadark Portal zadarkpor...@gmail.com
Further to my previous email, and to ensure the existing solution is clean
can you from within the opensim solution directory (same as compile.bat)
run:
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\msbuild OpenSim.sln /t:clean
I am not managing to get a .NET 4 based r/24051 build running on 32
bit Wiodows Vista or 64 bit Windows 8.1. See
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6846
For me, just taking the vanilla r/24051 release, runprebuild..bat and
compile.bat and making ONE change to just amend the
At 11:00 08/10/2013, Teravus Ovares tera...@gmail.com wrote:
Just for the sake of getting something up
there, I set the defaults to something sane, however they may not work
for everyone, so it may be wise to take a look at the new
configuration options in the [LoginService] section of your
What is the ViewGit URL for the 0,7.6 post-fixes branch? The one
equivalent to this URL for the dev master branch...
http://opensimulator.org/viewgit/?a=shortlogp=opensimh=refs/heads/master
Ad is there a ViewGit URL that shows all the main and active branches
in development?
At 16:34 14/09/2013, Shaun wrote:
If you drop in her binary distribution for 0.7.5, and don't use her
mysql connector, then it will work fine, you just won't have any updated
numbers on your Wifi page. This is what I'm currently doing.
As Shaun says, WiFi pre-compiled 0.7.5 works with 0.7.6
At 11:00 30/08/2013, opensim-dev-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote:
I'm not sure this will be possible as I believe mesh is uploaded via
a single HTTP post, which isn't easy to monitor
server-side. It's also possible that the mesh you're trying to
upload is unfortunately simply too large and that
At 11:00 30/08/2013, opensim-dev-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote:
I'm still not sure whether verb-object is better (e.g. send
appearance) or object-verb (e.g. appearance send).
I strongly vote for verb object in such computer script languages.
This works well also where there are more than one
I note several inconsistencies in the use of - in OpenSim.exe
command console command lines. I always seem to get this wrong. and
create region [region name] region_file.ini - Create a new region.
delete-region name - Delete a region from disk
remove-region name - Remove a region from this
I wonder if its possible to get any debugging related to mesh uploads
and their progress (or otherwise).
I think I am timing out even when I set the AckTimeout = 600 as
suggested by Justin and want to try to figure out the stage at which
the problems occur.
I am uploading some Collada
When I try uploading some large meshes I am seeing timeouts every now
and then.. but I can see no errors in the mesh upload...
Is there a hard wired limit somewhere on the time and the mesh upload
might be blocking any acknowledgements that the viewer is ant to give
to the server?
21:02:41
kenvc, can yiu please reopen this Mantis entry..
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5122
Its definitely not fixed. I observed the same problem just a few
weeks ago in a fresh 0.7.6 dev master using a new MySQL data base and
all content loaded from saved OARS and IARs. So its not
In see in the Grid Manager of the new Firestorm 4.4.0 that there is a
new Grid Info link for Grid Message URI.
http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/EXPORT/TEMP/2013-04-22-Firestorm-Viewer-4-4-0-Grid-Manager.jpg
I assume this allows for a URL to be used to serve into the message
that appears on the
Robust.HG.ini.example [Messaging] section for new V2 groups and
OfflineIM additions...
I was just doing a merge of the new .ini entries for the Openvue
grid... where wqe are still set up for Flotsam externally served
groups and OfflineIM... the previous [Messaging] section in
Robust.HG.ini
At 23:12 16/02/2013, opensim-dev-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote:
Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM
addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This means
that core opensim will have support for these out of the box without
having to install
At 23:12 16/02/2013, opensim-dev-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote:
Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM
addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to core opensim. This means
that core opensim will have support for these out of the box without
having to install
From: Michelle Argus ar...@archimuh.de
http://code.google.com/p/flotsam/ is the the current flotsam version and
points to the github repro which I forked and then patched.
None of the changes I proposed in my git fork have been implemented,
neither in opensim nor in flotsam.
Got it, thanks
Michelle Argus on Wed Oct 3 18:00:23 CEST 2012:
I have added some changes to the group module of OpenSim and
the flotsam server.
...
The changes can be found in the 2 gits here:
https://github.com/MAReantalshttps://github.com/MAReantals
NB: Both changes to flotsam and opensim are backward
This one for Melanie. The addition of the service list at r/20607 and
r/20608 seems like a good idea, and will make checking for additions
or changes easier.
But I assume the commit is also needed for Robust.HG.ini.example Melanie?
These seem to be the added service connectors required...
I saw that Diva put up a commit on 0,.7.5 dev that added timeouts to
the various calls that did not have them, but the she removed that
path in the next commit saying it was there in case people wanted to
try it. Was that a fix for this issue and any reason the changes to
add time outs did
I see Bluewalls fix of this issue on GIT.
Bluewall, in the Robust.HG.ini.example file did you mean to also
delete the two lines for
-; For V2 map
-MapTileURL = http://127.0.0.1:8002;;
I believe these lines are necessary to make map tiles work in v
2/3 Could also alter to V2/3 in
Anyone else noticing that the outfits do not seem to persist in
OSGrid? I am using the latest stable LL viewer 3.3.1.
I lost my previous working outfits, and even when creating new ones,
they all were lost again after a log out and log back in. I tried
waiting a while after creating the
Bluewall wrote:
One thing I am curious about is the line that says [MODULES]: Loading
Region's modules (old style)
It does not load in the old style anymore, neither does the basic
profile module in core.
What would be giving that warning line I wonder?
Note that my working version is 0.7.3
Thanks Paul. Could that be related folks? I should have said I am
using Windows Vista 32 bit OS.
I also tried using the source of the OpenSimProfiles module from the
OSGrid download area and compiling it afresh with the 0.7.3 dev
version from 29-Jan-2012 rather than the OSGrid 15-Jan-2012
I was just trying a test update from a version of 0.7.3 dev as at
9-Jan to the latest 29-Jan r.17923... the main change for my config
files being the update for HomeURL in GridCommon.ini and my
Robust.HG.ini. I believe I have these all set correctly with the
fix to the .ini.example files at
I was just testing the latest 0.7.3 dev master and I normally add in
the compiled 0.7.2 Wifi modules from diva. They worked fine in 0.7.3
dev up to about mid November when I last updated, but on the current
version throws an error..
11:08:55 - [SERVER]: Loading WifiServerConnector on port
+1 on having a single corrected sit position and not having
additional config switches to set back to the old position offset...
which could lead to more confusion as systems and OARS/IARS proliferate.
I know its bad for people with assets they cannot edit. Some folks
will just have to
At 11:00 01/12/2011, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Austin. OAR/IAR loading probably will end up ignoring/resetting
the group by default, since it's difficult to
transport this data across at the moment.
That would be good too. Just setting to group none would fix my
at some stage the save/load OAR to
ignore the group seeing on objects is feasible?
Best wishes, Ai (Austin)
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At 11:00 27/09/2011, Justin CCC wrote:
Unfortunately, I also confirmed the fact that Freeswitch voice for
an entire grid is not implemented, and that the
instructions are misleading on that score. I put a warning on the
top of the page rather than change it completely.
since the grid option
In a stock Linden Lab viewer 2/3, various tabs and buttons will point back
to the Linden Lab website. In particular, the profile data will
try to fetch
from the Linden Lab website. It's not known currently how/whether this
can be changed in the stock viewer.
It seems odd that the LL stock
From: Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com
Hi folks. I'd like to start the OpenSim 0.7.2 release candidate
process very soon, possibly as early as tomorrow. I
think that we're at a reasonably stable point in master and it's
some time since the last release.
Excellent, and I think
Lib OpenMetaVerse 0.9.1 - just released - seems to have a fix for
some wearable items that may address issues I have been seeing on a
number of grids when uploading body parts and basic clothing items
for my avatar.. uploaded to 0.7.1.1 grids and perhaps some test 0.7.2
dev grids. They all
At 11:00 09/08/2011, opensim-dev-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote:
Hi folks. I'd just like to announce that as of last Friday, we
would like to welcome Nebadon Izumi and Snoopy Pfeffer
to the OpenSim core dev team.
Excellent. Great to see them listed on the core team. And this is a
good time
At 01:26 25/07/2011, Brucep523 brucep...@gmail.com wrote:
Next, I need decide whether I should run the DIVA/WIFI version or go with
the standard OpenSim download. If I go with the OpenSim how easy is it to
setup to use MYSQL? Again, all input and opinions are welcomed.
Bruce, as well as the
I have reported my testing on the modified 0.7.2 dev master version
with the off-line fix in two mantis reports... hope they are useful...
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5528
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5529
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and OSGrid.
To report on status... I am using an avatar HG Tester
(7d845bc9-06f0-4edf-8c75-5eeb813a0071) on OSGrid (created there) and
my avatar Ai Austin (e24a9015-f5ca-452b-8c95-d32e34cb9d64) on
Openvue (its home grid
Diva Canto wrote:
This statement is not correct, so maybe that's the problem.
Thanks Diva... as yo will see from the report I just put together
from 2 or 3 hours of testing... I spotted that too.. Thanks for
checking my notes though. I also upgraded to latest r/15661. HG
Landmarks work
Diva Canto wrote:
It should be working if ppl are on their own grids. So If I'm on mine
and you are on yours, and we are friends, we should see each other's
comings and goings. If we are elsewhere, the notifications don't reach
there (yet).
I can confirm that it is NOT working for a avatar
I know this has come up a few times before, but IO wonder if the devs
think it would be useful and helpful to include an initial library in
the OpenSim distribution.. to help people get a start with a core of
useful things, and a smallish initial decent set of male, female and
neutral avatars.
From: Melanie mela...@t-data.com
This refers to the sim you're going to. It needs to be updated. The
message is in there as a nag so people will poke each other to update
Hi Melanie.. I could understand it if it referred to the Sims the HG
traveller was coming FROM, as these are Sweet.Jane
I am seeing a few messages like this on the Robust.exe console on a
recent 0.7.2 dev (opensim-tree-4176bc1 2011-05-09 r/15466 0.7.2-dev
master) with references to regions running on OpenSim.exe for the
same version of OpenSim.
I assume the message referring is referring to my setup on
Melanie.,I see a commit from you at r/15461 with some new console
commands that I think will be very useful.
Can you check the text for the last command. as I assume the UUID
is wrong there. It should be Name?
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At 03:15 06/05/2011, Justin CC wrote:
I've added a bullet point to check show version in my pre-release
checklist now!
show version works in the OpenSim.exe console... but not in the
Robust.exe console. Should show version be added as a command there too?
There has been a few changes in recent 0.7.1 dev master releases for
the way in which a hypergrid linked region is labelled and accessible
when seen on a map or in map search.
I note today when linking the Newton region on ScienceSim with this
command in Robust.exe console...
link-region
hypergrid address is
http://grid.sciencesim.com/grid/hypergrid.php Newton
note that not all hypergrid fns work with simian.
I assume ScieneSim is on a recent 0.7.1 dev master? So will be
compatible only with recent 0.7.1 grids?
What is the HG address (loginuri and port) we should us for
From: Dorena Verne dorena.ve...@web.de
My question asks which development will open simulator.
Everywhere are rumors that in later times, no OS allows entrainment
of the inventory of Hypergrid more.
Dorena.. things are actually in a very good shape with the latest
versions that are in
At 03:10 23/03/2011, Justin CC wrote:
If you've not noticed an issue so far then I recommend leaving it
alone. Remapping should just be case of changing the
entries in the estate_map table. Eventually I would hope to see a
console command for doing this.
Thanks Justin. And yes... always
I am looking again at Map Tiles in Viewer 2 with 0.7.1 dev master
I am convinced I saw our Openvue region map tiles at some stage...
and even made snapshots of them in a Mantis entry when I thought that
the issue was that only certain zoom levels showed up:
Our experience of the move from 0.6.9 to 0.7.0 and then to 0.7.1 dev
version (to get access to improvements we wanted such as media on a
prim, support for viewer 2 and now mesh objects) was very good, after
some early verification issues on HG teleports were
resolved. Remember that HG
Sorry, that was Mic Bowman's change not Marck's.
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Can someone help explain about map tiles and how they show up in Viewer 2.4.x?
I know that there is the Simian Grid map module which can allow for
upload and serving of such map tiles in a compatible way.. as that
was mentioned on this list a few weeks ago.
But I don't run a front end such
I have just updated Openvue on 0.7.1 dev from r/14871 to r/14899 and
I notice straight away that when I teleport from Openvue at 1000,1000
to Vue-5000 at 5000,5000 within my own grid using either the map or
osTeleportAgent scripted gateways my avatar arrives at the target
region but is
I think I see the problem. In r/14888 Justin reverted a change at
r/14859, but the relevant line is now commented out again in
Melanie's merge at r/14892.
These merge branch masters often introduce a lot of changes and
seem to cause a number of the more awkward to diagnose issues with
Yes, that was the problem... I put it on mantis... so others are
aware of this serious problem...
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5369
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Good points Justin and Melanie... thanks for considering it though.
From: Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com
I think you could argue that something like OpenSim.ini.example is
so named only because it's an example file.
OpenSimDefaults.ini has more in common with
While looking at that area, I see an old script there opensim-ode.sh ...
From: Teravus Ovares tera...@gmail.com
Most people do not realize that they need to use ulimit to adjust their
stack space or risk a stack collision. If you notice, the script does that
for you.
Good point, noted
One things I noticed as I make use of 0.7.1 dev master is that the
alphabetical sorted position in the bin directory for the file
OpenSimDefaults.ini always seems to be oddly placed...
I can see only two files that have that style of naming for OpenSim
file sin bin... that one and
Given that 0.7.1 dev master is being shaken down quite thoroughly
with OSGrid use, and quite a bit of testing between other 0.7.1 dev
master recent release grids and standalones, I wonder if it might be
near to the point where a RC1 could be tried?
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.7.1_Planning
From: Mic Bowman cmick...@gmail.com
Yeah... I think that module could easily be used for other map services
right now. It is labeled as part of Simian because the SGF needs it.
However, you cold enable it, set a new URL, and pump map images wherever you
want.
How would you recommend it be
At 11:00 11/01/2011, Mic Bowman wrote:
Simian isn't doing anything special. It takes the existing map images that
are generated (no changes at all to the map generator, it uses what ever is
already configured) and *also* pushes a copy up to the grid frontend for
inclusion in the map functions
Mic Bowman made a recent commit in 0.7.1 dev master which made the
Simian Map Tile generator be a separate module. I wonder if this
could be generalized so it works with Robust or Simian and given an
option to put the map tiles to a local directory and to enable it to
work with the inbuilt
From: Volker Gaessler f...@gmx.ch
Finally we found some time to work on this. Server and client will be
published before Christmas.
Excellent Volker. When you are ready, we would be happy to try this
out in our context on the Openvue grid and give what feedback we can.
Try to provide notes to help testers and configurers at
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Mumble
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A question for Melanie... on the new setup for using FreeSwitch
remote connector running on a Grid set up in Robust.exe, we are
trying to work out why our previously working setup before the change
is no longer working. We think we have reconfigured to use the grid
provided rmeote connector.
Diva Canto wrote:
First, let me just state upfront that I have no idea what interface
numbers mean. I haven't used them, and since there have been no
releases, I'm not sure what these numbers mean. Is this the grid-wide
interface number? If so, HG compatibility is correlated with it, but but
HG
Ai Austin wrote:
But we now have a number of incomparable grids/standalones again on
the latest version from 0.7.1 dev master so can look for genuine new
bugs in those.
incomparable should have read compatible!
VERY aggressive word correction gone wrong in my mailer. Sorry for confusion
We understand that there is incompatibility between the old HG 1.0
and the more secure HG1.5.
As I understand it there was a change in some data base entries from
interface 6 to interface 7 which also meant that HG 1.5 i6 versions
and before were incompatible with HG i7 and later. At least
I wonder if some of the following items which I assume would rarely
be changed by most users could be shifted also form
OpenSim.ini.example to OpenSimDefaults.ini? Do the core devs have a
view on this to get a good split ahead of a 0.7.1 release?
[Startup] some elements like meshing,
I shifted my testign feedback on 0.7.1 dev master latest versions to
some Mantis reports as requested (5258 and 5259). I am not yet able
to do HG teleports or get FreeSwitcy working, but other elements are
now back in shape so I have a basis for further testign on the Openvue grid.
It
From: Diva Canto mailto:d...@metaverseink.comd...@metaverseink.com
Bugs == mantis == thanks!
Hi Diva... I am back after a long trip away and catching up with
progress on 0.7.1 Dev master Branch. Unless you advise against it
just now I would be happy to set up a new version based on the
I also notice that the old style FreeSwitch setup has got left in the
[FreeSwitchVoice] section in OpenSimDefaults.ini
I guess it just will not be used.. but to avoid confusion, should
that section there be removed? That's probably a question for Melanie.
I am now working through the OpenSim.ini changes... two things I
spotted on the OpenSim.ini.example file (only one actually HG
related, but both ought to be changed I think)...
a) the example FreeSwitch Service URL given uses port 8003 - whereas
the Robust.ini example connectors uses port
Marck and Diva... you are right.. silly of me to use the wrong base
for Robust.HG.ini. Will correct and test again tomorrow.
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129.215.219.138
tried to set client ip to 82.41.239.115
18:17:13 - [AGENTCIRCUITDATA]:
agentid=e24a9015-f5ca-452b-8c95-d32e34cb9d64, child=True,
startpos=152, 157, 25
18:17:13 - [AGENTCIRCUITDATA]: unpacked appearance
18:17:13 - [USER AGENT SERVICE]: Request to login user Ai Austin
(@stored IP) to grid
All points taken folks. And thanks for the discussion.
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I believe this is already noted somewhere on mantis, but I could not
find an entry just now on a quick search.
As I am sure you are aware the map doe snot show up when using Viewer
2 with OpenSim, and some sort of generic/LL served map tiles show instead.
Is this something that potentially
At 00:46 02/11/2010, Crista Lopes lo...@ics.uci.edu wrote:
Whatever the original legal advice was, it resulted in the current
rules described here:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Contributions_Policy
For the past year or so, we have been consulting informally with a
lawyer based in San Diego
There has been a number of blog posts and descriptions recently of
developments of OpenSim that seek to extend and solidify some of the
results of the core developments. This is great. Diversity and
rapid cycles of innovation is what a vibrant development community
needs. But we need to
Folks, you may be missing the point... LL made the viewer source
LGPL, changing the previous restrictive GPL. That means that
previous legal advice and inputs are not relevant any longer. LGPL is
a good thing for us. I tried to persuade the Project Wonderland
folks they should go for LGPL
Hi folks, if someone has the authority to commit the patch in mantis
5110 to 0.7.1 master I would appreciate it...
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5110
Its for a serious error in IP/Service URI handling code in 0.7.1 dev
master since r/14142 which means logins from viewers
I wonder if anyone else if having serious trouble with 0.7.1 dev
master checkout in recent weeks... with all recent versions freezing
the OpenSim.exe console, startup and shutdowns taking 20 times or
more longer than before, giving many time out errors and loading
scripts very slowly indeed.
I see this addition of a CacheSculptMaps parameter to
OpenSim.ini.default i the Master commits
but the default is uncomented as opposite to what is stated in the
comment as the normal default which is what should be in the .ini.example file.
It should be set true not false I think
I see the OS Grid folks are planning the move to 0.7 and HG1.5 which
is great news.
I noted that their installed version will include MOAP so must be
from the dev branch rather than the stable 0.7.0.2 release.
I wonder if the dev path is considered stable enough now that a new
0.7.1 version
From: Serendipity Seraph sser...@me.com
I may have missed it. The opensimulator.org wiki seems to have a
somewhat broken search (not full text). Is this written up somewhere?
See http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.7_Release
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myticaldemina makes a lot of good points... one thing that could be
problematic though relates to this comment...
From: mysticaldem...@xrgrid.com
...I would suggest any
proxies would give the external system and identifier and not chain proxy to
proxy unless there is a reason to do it, and the
Justincc wrote:
This is what all the 'OpenSim Profile Anchor' (OSPA) stuff was
about. In that case, the proposed format was
ospa:n=Justin
Clark-Casey,p=http://justincc.org/my-vw-profilehttp://justincc.org/my-vw-profile
for property extensibility but a single URL (plus uuid) could well
be
M... I believe we are talking about the current situation where you
give or sell copies of assets to others and they might have open/full
or restricted permissions on them. They can then be used as
appropriate without reauthentication or update of those assets being
required.. as the provider
From: d...@metaverseink.com
... If the user agent service of one grid so wishes, all of its
users' agents can be anonymized and stripped off their clothes
before going out.
...if the Gatekeeper so wishes, it can anonymize all foreign user
agents and strip them off their clothes before
Maybe the mechanism also should specify what happens when we have a
creator name that we do not (yet) have a hypergrid name for... rather
than leaving things as Loading... for creator names, etc.
Something like Unknown Name.
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