Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-30 Thread Hurliman, John
My interpretation (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that there is rough consensus on the overall strategy, but an open question of how to encode global identities when cross-grid communication (or out-of-grid archiving) happens. There is probably also a hidden question of how to mark a local

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-30 Thread Hurliman, John
already have a perfectly good field, which is a UUID for local users and a URL for remote ones. Melanie Serendipity Seraph wrote: On 8/30/10 2:09 PM, d...@metaverseink.com wrote: Hurliman, John wrote: My interpretation (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that there is rough consensus

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-30 Thread Hurliman, John
that not adding the display name is a missed opportunity for caching, but I'm willing to write up code that accounts for it being optional for all the grid operators who would rather have the extra lookups coming their way. Hurliman, John wrote: If we are still on the same page, there should never

Re: [Opensim-dev] Super easy question

2010-08-20 Thread Hurliman, John
Actually, if you actually try to implement Havok (or Bullet or PhysX) in OpenSim you will come up against a few walls. The physics API in OpenSim is highly tailored for the specific way ODE is being used right now, and many ways of implementing physics including the standard (or at least the

Re: [Opensim-dev] Minor suggestion for config-include example files for 0.7 standalone

2010-07-06 Thread Hurliman, John
OpenSim does not actually function properly without an asset cache. It will appear to function, the simulator will run and many things will work, but you will run into subtle bugs that are difficult to track down such as avatar bakes being deleted on upload. In my opinion OpenSim should fail to

Re: [Opensim-dev] JSON or XML for serialization in the OpenSim database?

2010-07-06 Thread Hurliman, John
I think the original question has been misunderstood. We are using the LLSD type system through the OpenMetaverse.StructuredData.dll library. If we want to decide whether that is a good approach or not we can open the discussion, but the question originally posed in this thread was a lot

[Opensim-dev] FW: Linden Lab Viewer 2?

2010-02-24 Thread Hurliman, John
-Original Message- From: Hurliman, John Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:05 AM To: ScienceSim Discuss Subject: RE: [scisim-discuss] Linden Lab Viewer 2? No, there are a few issues preventing it from working. Most of them are not major, but if you try to login it might destroy some

Re: [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?

2009-09-21 Thread Hurliman, John
DeleteKeyValue(string context, string key); // returns the string value if the key was found, otherwise null string GetValue(string context, string key); -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Hurliman, John Sent

Re: [Opensim-dev] OGPX and IETF-ing things

2009-06-05 Thread Hurliman, John
I think MMOX would be the most appropriate place for these kind of open-ended protocol discussions. The OpenSim mailing list is great when you are talking about things that will be implemented or hope to be implemented in the OpenSim SVN within the next month. However, if I was to start a

Re: [Opensim-dev] Anonymous Avatar

2009-05-28 Thread Hurliman, John
Definitely possible, it's just a policy decision on behalf of the grid admin. While I was writing the Cable Beach auth code I started out with assigned names because it was quicker to implement than fetching attributes from an identity service. John -Original Message- From:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-29 Thread Hurliman, John
: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats Hurliman, John wrote: Currently, OpenSim server-server communication is primarily made up of .NET XML serialization. As a side effect of this, I've seen the wire format between simulator and grid services or grid service to grid service change many times

[Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-28 Thread Hurliman, John
Currently, OpenSim server-server communication is primarily made up of .NET XML serialization. As a side effect of this, I've seen the wire format between simulator and grid services or grid service to grid service change many times since I started working on backend services. The OAR file

Re: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-28 Thread Hurliman, John
[mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Hurliman, John Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 4:32 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats Currently, OpenSim server-server communication is primarily made up of .NET XML serialization

[Opensim-dev] Cable Beach trust overview

2009-04-17 Thread Hurliman, John
With everyone interested in the concept of grids and future architecture design I thought this would be a good time to present what I have been working on. http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Image:Cablebeach-trustoverview.png The important thing about worlds (grids) and trust domains is that you can

Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenID

2009-03-02 Thread Hurliman, John
Do you make a habit of sending your credentials to websites without checking the hostname and ignoring invalid SSL certificate warnings? That will create a problem. John -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-25 Thread Hurliman, John
-Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Justin Clark-Casey Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication Diva Canto wrote: Mike

Re: [Opensim-dev] MXP and Google Protocol Buffers

2009-02-24 Thread Hurliman, John
Tommi, you are a programming powerhouse! This is great stuff. -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Tommi Laukkanen Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:13 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject:

Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient?

2009-02-23 Thread Hurliman, John
Just as a completely theoretical question, how much work do you think would be involved in pulling all LLUDP and Linden viewer-specific code out of OpenSim and putting it in a module? It would be interesting to see an MXP-only OpenSim. John -Original Message- From:

Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient?

2009-02-23 Thread Hurliman, John
Of Tommi Laukkanen Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient? Thanks John, sounds perfect. Is the license such that I can copy their implementation directly? regards, Tommi On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Hurliman, John john.hurli

Re: [Opensim-dev] [REX] [Fwd: User Authentication]

2009-02-23 Thread Hurliman, John
A RADIUS server is a solution to the problem of authentication. OpenID is a solution for federated identity, and plays nicely with any authentication solution you want to use. I think the description of this particular problem is closer to identity verification across administrative domains

Re: [Opensim-dev] [REX] [Fwd: User Authentication]

2009-02-23 Thread Hurliman, John
between backend services since we can't change the viewer. This doesn't solve the man-in-the-middle problem in OSGrid itself, which needs to be solved too, urgently. I think my proposal does. Crista Hurliman, John wrote

[Opensim-dev] Improving object update performance

2009-02-17 Thread Hurliman, John
Continuing a phone conversation on the mailing list, this is my current understanding of the status of object updates in OpenSim: 1) Each object update is a single packet. No aggregation is done by combining multiple ObjectUpdate.ObjectData blocks into a single packet, or combining

Re: [Opensim-dev] AssetBase and metadata

2009-02-02 Thread Hurliman, John
-Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Sean Dague Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:47 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] AssetBase and metadata Teravus Ovares wrote: Is there

Re: [Opensim-dev] Cable Beach update

2009-01-21 Thread Hurliman, John
-Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Justin Clark-Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:02 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Cable Beach update Mike Mazur wrote: