Re: [Opensim-dev] [opensim 0005007]: Some scripts require installing more than the default mono release

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Dickson
On 09/26/2010 09:29 PM, Melanie wrote: Hi, first off, it's not a change in mono. It's a change in how distributions package mono. It means that the Debian packagers seem to be at fault. Pretty much every major distro I'm aware of ships Mono as runtime and development packages to support

Re: [Opensim-dev] [opensim 0005007]: Some scripts require installing more than the default mono release

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Dickson
the OpenSim users trying to get a system up and running. Mike Mike Dickson wrote: On 09/26/2010 09:29 PM, Melanie wrote: Hi, first off, it's not a change in mono. It's a change in how distributions package mono. It means that the Debian packagers seem to be at fault. Pretty much every

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-09-01 Thread Mike Dickson
On 08/31/2010 10:14 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote: On 31/08/10 18:56, d...@metaverseink.com wrote: plugin. If you run into a missing hook, just let me know. Bottom line wrt interop, two major things happened: 1) the hypergrid 1.5, a system-to-system (S2S) architecture with the trust/security

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Dickson
Right. I think some of the use cases related to how content is shared have been glossed over. In a completely open model which is what has been discussed this is all pretty straightforward. But if I'm running an asset service (as part of a grid or separately) I might want to provide access

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Dickson
But it does. Or will shortly. They're addressing a longstanding gripe that people can't select their names by providing a separate account name and display name. Display names can be changed/overloaded, etc. The identifiable data is the UUID. The Agent service should then resolve that to

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Dickson
LL is going to have 2 levels of Names, one which can be modified and one which will not, i am quite sure the unchangeable name is what prims and objects will reference, the changeable name is simple for display purposes only was my understanding. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mike Dickson

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Dickson
If the decision is to go ahead and do cache-able data then I'd agree, do it as attribute NVP's and make them optional. The originating agennt service is then free to define the semantics of the attributes it exposes. Mike On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:42 +, Ai Austin wrote: From:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Dickson
and VWRAP. I don't think that's the general feeling in VWRAP, I think it's just you. The proposal to VWRAP will happen. Hopefully, most people there will be able to assess the technical issues, independent of the political ones. (emphasis on *hopefully*) Diva / Crista Mike Dickson

Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Dickson
Mike Dickson wrote: That's great to hear. And the first I've heard of it. I'm on the VWRAP mailing list and yes, John has made some very substantive contributions to the discussion. I haven't seen anything from OpenSim core during any part of the discussion to date. I'm a pretty smart guy

Re: [Opensim-dev] The notion of core ... looking ahead

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Dickson
Strongly agree with your analysis Morgaine. Right on target. Mike On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 11:41 +, Morgaine wrote: Greetings. Three points of fact: 1. Opensim is now in Git, a distributed SCM that promotes distributed development. 2. Opensim devs have declared many

Re: [Opensim-dev] VNC on CLient

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Dickson
Pretty sure the Gwyneth piece is referring to the work going on in the SnowGlobe branch of the SL viewer to support a plugin API for media. Plan was to use parcel media but that may have been extended further as well. I haven't tried the code but check out the SNOWGLOBE project for more info.

Re: [Opensim-dev] VNC on CLient

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Dickson
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 13:08 +, André Filipe wrote: I`d like to know HOW TO do it... the video shows the results of it. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Media_Rendering_Plugin_Framework Mike ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Change the OnDeRezObject event

2009-07-10 Thread Mike Dickson
And thanks for doing it on the mailing list vs IRC. OpenSIM isn't my day job so I can't follow IRC as closely. Doing it here helps me follow things as I can and keep up the learning. Mike On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 16:17 +, MW wrote: Yeah this might be going over the top, doing proposals down to

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Dickson
I'm glad someone besides me said that... Mike On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 22:26 +, Gryc Ueusp wrote: This is what branches are for. Melanie wrote: This can not be reasonably done on the forge.. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

[Opensim-dev] CONSOLE (Redux)

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Dickson
Or even better, remove the console entirely (i.e. run it as a daemon process and manage via an xml/rpc interface...). Mike On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 04:10 +, Dan wrote: Is it possible to to remove these from cluttering up the console? --- 2009-06-10 00:07:20,487

Re: [Opensim-dev] General status of OpenSim on 64 bit Linux Architecture

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Dickson
It doesn't take alot of tricks to use beyond 3.5GB of memory with a 32 bit OS. The PAE kernel will handle it. I have one system with 24GB that's 32bit (for othe reasons). I've also run OpenSIm 64bit fine recently so I think either approach is feasible. If I was starting from scratch with a

Re: [Opensim-dev] OGPX and IETF-ing things

2009-06-03 Thread Mike Dickson
I don't have as much concern that things are done using the IETF process. That's IMO the appropriate place for some of the work given in some cases they're extending protocols already specified via IETF RFC's. Since OGP and hypergrid really sort of imply collaboration between multiple providers

Re: [Opensim-dev] HUGE ASSET CACHE

2009-05-31 Thread Mike Dickson
Given the recent changes for modularity has there been any thought to being able to configure a seperate shared cache across multiple regions. Something like the Jakarta JCS stuff (http://jakarta.apache.org/jcs/) comes to mind. I'm not suggesting that specific implementation but simply that if

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Mike Dickson
I'm only using the WiRedux stuff of the modules you listed personally. But I don't think the BSD license works the way you think it does. Attribution is certainly required by the license and no reason you couldn't do a closed source version based on it. But what you put out under a BSD license is

[Opensim-dev] Crash on HEAD during startup

2009-05-27 Thread Mike Dickson
I have two systems I work with. A release build and one for head. I haven't messed with the experimental one in a while so I figured I'd give it a try. Pulled SVN 9698 (i.e. that's the latest checkin). Modified the ini files and pointed to a MySQL database. This is running standalone. Most of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Crash on HEAD during startup

2009-05-27 Thread Mike Dickson
I found it. Messup up the spelling for the extra config file for the asset service and it failed to find a config. Probably shouldn't continue in that case. Anyway. its working now. Mike ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] Difficulty build SVN 9480

2009-05-20 Thread Mike Dickson
On my CentOS server I've deinstalled all of the standard Mono and built mono 2.4 (minus the libgdiplus code with Mono 2.4, I used the system one for that, issues with ODE and the recent one in Mono 2.4). I used the standard install to /usr/local. Adding a LD_CONFIG_PATH entry for /usr/local/lib

Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings

2009-05-17 Thread Mike Dickson
The only obvious problem to voice for some of these conversations is that if you're not there at the time it happens you lose out. No way to archive them (easily) for historical purposes or simply for those who can't contribute at the time the conversation happens. Since in many cases these are

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Dickson
I'll echo a sentiment I've tried to express before. This sort of aggressive refactoring and experimentation is really important to the growth of OpenSim. The release process has been focused on trying to figure out a stable point and snapshot-ing that. That places a burden on the release

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Dickson
Clearly changing process now isn't appropriate. There sounds like a plan and I'd +1 moving forward with it. I'd be willing to invest time in release coordination *if* we can add some structure to how thats done going forward. So for my part I'd +1 to the approach being discussed and doing the

Re: [Opensim-dev] OAuth as authentication and authorisation (capability) specification

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Dickson
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Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
That's been my thought all along. What if the content in the users inventory is my IP. I've granted a license for a customer/user to use it (perhaps even limited to where the content is used). I appreciate the energy around the hypergrid concept. But there are lots of scenarios where the

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
it will get listened to. Mike On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:12 +, Melanie wrote: No one is preventing you from running a walled garden/SL clone. The hypergrid won't touch you in that case. Hypergrid most certainly belongs into core and will stay there. Melanie Mike Dickson wrote: That's

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
. Melanie Mike Dickson wrote: Justin, thanks for clarifying the process. And I certainly understand the interest in Hypergrid and the energy behind it. Charles your message was also helpful in highlighting to me what is at the center of my concern. I agree the development process

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
Then do it in your own repository and push changes back to core when they're baked enough and have been reviewed. Lots of good examples of that development model in open source projects. Though perhaps Justin is right that there's not enough people in core to support that. I hear of lots of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
Well, I know what I've observed over the last year and a half or so. But I agree that having something in writing that could be referred to would be a help. Mike On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:49 +, Diva Canto wrote: Before you go into proposing a different development process for OpenSim, make

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono considered harmful

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Dickson
The TomTom thing is far more complex than it might seem and a good example of how companies use patents these days. I wouldn't be as quick to claim TomTom is the only one at fault here, there was a counter-suit and we don't have details on how it was settled. IMO,there's essentially zero risk to

Re: [Opensim-dev] WG: Legal Issues was RFC Profiles

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Dickson
be even better. Cheers! James On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Mike Dickson mike.dick...@hp.com wrote: Wnat I'm actually trying to say is that core should be the framework it was intended to be. So rather than put something to support communicating license

Re: [Opensim-dev] Legal Issues was RFC Profiles

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Dickson
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- Mike Dickson mike.dick...@hp.com BladeSystem infrastructure RD ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] WG: Legal Issues was RFC Profiles

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Dickson
If as a creator I want to add a notecard to my object indicating the licensing terms I want to apply when someone has a copy of or rez's my object I'm free to do so. Heck I could even get fancy and script it asking for a click-through menu response or something. I'm not against licensing of

[Opensim-dev] Error on initial startup with new checkout..

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Dickson
Just downloaded a svn head fresh copy, built and tried setting it up in standalone mode. Created a database in Mysql and then fired up OpenSim (after building of course, I'm at revision 8873). Got a failure when it was trying to initialize the region modules. I checked the OpenSim.ini file and

Re: [Opensim-dev] Error on initial startup with new checkout..

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Dickson
it.It's located in /bin/ and there's the world NHibernate in all of the components. The best thing to do is to install the Oracle client apt-get install libmono-oracle2.0-cil (*replace with your mono version here*) Sincerely Teravus On 3/26/09, Mike Dickson mike.dick...@hp.com wrote