Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-20 Thread Dr Scofield
Melanie wrote: And that brings us full circle to my proposal. There is much sense in a set of files that are used as defaults, and then overriding settings in specific configuration files. +1 on that proposal. DrS/dirk -- dr dirk husemann virtual worlds research ibm

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-11 Thread Dahlia Trimble
: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-11 Thread Brianna
. - Original Message - From: Dahlia Trimble To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to update the defaults in the code to sane values? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Jeff Ames wrote: One nice thing about merge conflicts is that it tells you right away if a variable you've changed has been modified (e.g., the variable name changed), so you can correct it immediately instead of wondering why feature X isn't working any more. But I guess there'd be a lot of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread Melanie
Built-in settings were pretty much abolished because it was found that it's not possible/feasible to keep them sane. I think that using an additional OpenSim.ini file is not too steep a learning curve, and that we should not design to the lowest denominator. A config override hierarchy is,

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread krtaylor
Actually, I thought it supported my point very well. ;-) I was not suggesting that the split ini in config be the only config option - I still like to override idea. But by default, users would edit the config/*ini, this does not stop a multi-region grid operator from syncing 20 override ini

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Ames
Just splitting up the file and putting it in config, with all the comments, would help. And for the SVN update - that is a problem with any modifications to the tree, not just config. That's what backups are for. I guess a simple backup/diff tool for config would be a quick solution... Just

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Tommi Laukkanen
How about splitting to normal ini file and advanced ini file? In the normal ini file you would have those parameters which 95% of the people change and rest can be stuffed to advanced ini file. - Tommi ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Hennessee
I am one of those people that run trunk and update fairly often on 9 different OpenSim servers. I suspect I always will be. Having to manually merge two huge ini files, on 9 different servers, is a major pain. It would be even worse if I had to merge 6 or 8 different medium sized ini files on

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Hennessee
+1 Melanie! ... ... whoa, deja vu! :) ~Sean Melanie wrote: And that brings us full circle to my proposal. There is much sense in a set of files that are used as defaults, and then overriding settings in specific configuration files. Melanie Sean Hennessee wrote: I am one of those

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Ames
One nice thing about merge conflicts is that it tells you right away if a variable you've changed has been modified (e.g., the variable name changed), so you can correct it immediately instead of wondering why feature X isn't working any more. But I guess there'd be a lot of false alarms, if

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Melanie
@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile If I understand this correctly, the config/*.ini files would be essentially read-only, and all local changes would be made

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Sacha Magne
-Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Hart
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Hi, Jeff Ames wrote: Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile This is because the config/* files would hold the defaults, they must be read first

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Melanie wrote: Hi, Jeff Ames wrote: Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile This is because the config/* files would hold the defaults, they must be read first. [...] Then we could break up and move OpenSim.ini.example

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
available settings user visible. Adam -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-05 Thread Mic Bowman
that it can be confusing, especially with the chosen names. So maybe we do need to rethink that. --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu wrote: From: Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading To: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk, opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-05 Thread Frisby, Adam
7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile If I understand this correctly, the config/*.ini files would be essentially read-only, and all local

[Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-04 Thread MW
Last week, I added the ability for opensim to search a folder for ini files and load (and merge together) all of those files. By default it will look for the folder 'bin\config' and search that for .ini files. The folder it searches can be changed by using the command line argument

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-04 Thread Sean Hennessee
Yay!! +1 Updating ini files is often a pain. This is an excellent step in the right direction. In this scenario, my suggestion/preference would be to have the bin/config directory contain all the SVN default values, (any number of files), with NO bin/opensim.ini file present by default. Then

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-04 Thread Mic Bowman
. But I agree that it can be confusing, especially with the chosen names. So maybe we do need to rethink that. --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu wrote: From: Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading To: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk, opensim-dev