Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Williams
Hi Justin, The fact that your message is a plea rather than an announcement makes it rather clear why I felt I had to leave OSG and move my sim to Metro. It also explains to me why I felt I had to add myself to this list at the same time -- self protection. If your release cycle is 4 months

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Emory Cerquoni
Jim, You are way off topic here, this has nothing to do with OSG or Metro grids, I don't know why you suddenly feel the need to criticize everyone and everything announced here, but it has finally gotten to the point where I feel I need to step in and say something about this, your comments of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Emory Cerquoni
Well if you are wondering why no one takes you seriously its because of stuff like the last line of your email, good luck with that! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Jim Williams sphere1...@gmail.com wrote: The basic problem is that their development will effect me as a user. I have no

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Williams
The basic problem is that their development will effect me as a user. I have no complaints about what Justin is trying to do. My complaint is how he has to word what he is doing, and I think it is because there is something wrong with the organization of this development project. Having looked

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Ai Austin
From: Jim Williams sphere1...@gmail.com Not only do I not want to do development, I want to use the system which was developed. ... So, you may drop dead for all I care. You are not helping to protect my environment. Whoooaaa Jim... take it easy... that's way out of order in an open

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Martin
from my POV i would think that a Freeze For Release would be a good idea since a constant MUST DO NEW FEATURE thing is what prevents having a good release. One thing that would be nice as a sidebar would be for there to be a single shell exe that starts the webserver then starts the sim and gives

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Fly Man
I think sometimes it matters that there's a stable release schedule, Sept 2013 is far in the past and there has been a lot of changes in Opensim since then. Strangely enough there haven't been in between releases or something like that. At this moment I think a lot of grid owners are sweating as

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Emory Cerquoni
OSgrid does releases very often and we do not modify the code in anyway all we do is add the osprofile and ossearch dlls to our release, anyone wanting to test newer releases could always use an OSgrid release and report bugs this way, we even provide zips of the source that come directly from

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-02 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Yes, that would be one alternative. But to emphasise, I'm only asking for a common-sense approach to avoid destabilising master right now, not a blanket ban on commits or anything like that. On 02/04/14 02:45, Michael Emory Cerquoni wrote: +1 no disagreement here! anyone who wants to get

Re: [Opensim-dev] Preparing for OpenSimulator 0.8

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Emory Cerquoni
+1 no disagreement here! anyone who wants to get crazy can do so in a new branch for now? On Apr 1, 2014 9:42 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi folks. For the past 3 years, we've had a significant OpenSimulator release at about 4 to 8 month intervals. As the last