Re: Object names

2000-09-26 Thread Michael Ströder
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: michael Again: The only reference to an attribute type is the OID! I know that. Unfortunately, there are applications out there that attempt to use the textual representation of a DN. One perfect example is LDAP anytime you search for anything (at

Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: Michael **UNKNOWN CHARSET** [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael Have you read RFC2560 properly? You can have responders that answer michael for other CA's. Multiple CA's even. michael michael I know that. But is the DER-encoding of the issuerName always michael the same? It's supposed to be

RE: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Oscar Jacobsson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker Sent: den 26 september 2000 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names) Unless we can assume

Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] levitte Unless we can assume that the same order will be preserved, levitte verification would be impossible. Think about it, a DN can have levitte multiple RDNs of the same type. Does DC ring a bell? Bleah. I wasn't reading things

Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Michael Ströder
Oscar Jacobsson wrote: RelativeDistinguishedNames themselves contain a SET OF AttributeTypeAndValue in order to facilitate multi-value RDNs. [..] OU=Sales+CN=J. Smith,O=Widget Inc.,C=US ^ That's exactly what I meant. I'm currently in the process of writing a Python class for

RE: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Oscar Jacobsson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Stroder Sent: den 26 september 2000 14:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names) I'm currently in the process of writing a Python class for X.500 names

Re: OCSP and issuerNameHash (was: Object names)

2000-09-26 Thread Rich Salz
IMHO at least this type definition containing SET OF might lead to different DER-encodings Nope. As others have pointed out DER defines a unique encoding for "SET OF" You might want to look at i2d_ASN1_SET in crypto/a_set.c Can somebody with real OCSP experience say anything about this? I

Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
I wonder, is there any document somewhere that can tell us how the different objects should really be named? As it currently looks, most names are created ad-hoc. I've just been hit with a problem where the naming of OID 1.2.840.113549.1.9.1 varies. When that is part of the CN rdn using

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
I just found RFC2253, so that one doesn't have to be pointed out to me :-). -- Richard Levitte \ Spannvägen 38, II \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chairman@Stacken \ S-168 35 BROMMA \ T: +46-8-26 52 47 Redakteur@Stacken \ SWEDEN \ or +46-709-50 36 10 Procurator Odiosus Ex Infernis

SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Hellan,Kim KHE
there (including the names). Just my 2c. Best regards Kim Hellan KMD / KMD-CA http://www.kmd-ca.dk Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 25. september 2000 13:50 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Object names

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Michael Ströder
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: I wonder, is there any document somewhere that can tell us how the different objects should really be named? Currently there is no such central document since everybody is free to define OIDs after getting a OID arc. Not even a central registry exists.

Re: SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: "Hellan,Kim KHE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] khe http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/ khe khe I think you can find most of the OpenSSL predefined OID's there khe (including the names). I know about alvestrand. Guess what? 1.2.840.113549.1.9.1 is named "e-mailAddress" there. Also, anyone can

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Michael Ströder
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: I just found RFC2253, so that one doesn't have to be pointed out to me :-). But this does not help much with attribute type naming. It only says: - If the AttributeType is in a published table of

RE: SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Frank Balluffi
- VMS Whacker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Object names From: "Hellan,Kim KHE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] khe http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/ khe khe I think you can find most of t

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: Michael **UNKNOWN CHARSET** [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael Currently there is no such central document since everybody is free michael to define OIDs after getting a OID arc. Not even a central registry michael exists. For registering OIDs it's sufficient that the owner of the michael parent

RE: SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: Frank Balluffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] frankb My experience has been that you need to consult each standard frankb separately. RFC 2459 is good in that it includes object frankb identifiers from a bunch of standards, including the PKCS frankb standards, and the X.5 standards (e.g., X.509 and

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Michael Ströder wrote: Currently there is no such central document since everybody is free to define OIDs after getting a OID arc. Not even a central registry exists. No official central regitry, yes, but at least there is this non-official one : http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/ It's

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: Michael Ströder wrote: Currently there is no such central document since everybody is free to define OIDs after getting a OID arc. Not even a central registry exists. No official central regitry, yes, but at least there is this non-official one :

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Michael Ströder
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: But for example, the "legal" shortnames for the DN attributes should be available somewhere. Can you list a limited set of attribute types for certificate DNs? I can't. I did find some in RFC2253, and I'm pretty sure there are more in some X.500 or

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Erwann ABALEA
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Michael Ströder wrote: Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: No official central regitry, yes, but at least there is this non-official one : http://www.alvestrand.no/objectid/ Thank you. I already knew that one. It's quite complete, while sure not comprehensive.

RE: SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Oscar Jacobsson
Richard Levitte wrote: And still, short names have been used for a while, since they do appear in X.400 addresses and in DNs a little here and there. Pardon me for butting in to the discussion this late, but is this really an issue of short or long names? I think the core problem at hand

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Michael Ströder
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: But I guess that the right way would be to make it less humanly readable and use the hash of the issuer DN, the same way it should be done according to RFC2560... RFC2560: "issuerNameHash is the hash of the Issuer's distinguished name. The hash shall be

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Dr S N Henson
Michael Ströder wrote: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: X509_NAME_oneline(), it's displayed as "/Email=...". Other products, like the JDK, seem to name it "/EmailAddress=...". As you can see, that will create a problem when you try to use the representation used by one system

Re: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: Michael **UNKNOWN CHARSET** [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: michael michael But for example, the michael "legal" shortnames for the DN attributes should be available michael somewhere. michael michael Can you list a limited set of attribute types for

RE: SV: Object names

2000-09-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
From: "Oscar Jacobsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] oscar.jacobsson 'commonName' and 'cn' are not long and short names oscar.jacobsson for 2.5.4.3, rather ASN.1 and UTF-8 (string) names. Hmm, that (and the rest of your explanation) made the whole thing a bit more comprehensible. Thanks, buddy. --