Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-21 Thread Matt Caswell
On 20 March 2013 19:44, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: There are tools of a sort to convert between docbook, pod, and markdown. I've played with a couple of them, but I think annoying little details will keep such tools from representing any net labor savings over manual

Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-20 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 07:49 PM, Pierre DELAAGE wrote: Hi Steve, My own experience in my company is that OpenOffice is perfectly suited for track changes in a collaborative env. Ok, allright, it cannot offer a line by line diff as in cvs systems, and return to specific version and so on, but the track

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-20 Thread Ben Laurie
On 19 March 2013 18:53, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: On 03/19/2013 10:47 AM, Pierre DELAAGE wrote: Dear Steve, I was wondering whether the wiki could be fed at the beginning by all the Documents available at http://www.openssl.org/docs/;. Very often people are able to

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-20 Thread Ben Laurie
On 19 March 2013 23:27, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: On 03/19/2013 04:59 PM, Matt Caswell wrote: On 19 March 2013 19:38, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: I took a quick look to see what utilities might be available to convert between pod and

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-20 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 03:15 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: ... Very often people are able to comment, eg, a command page with some samples or error comments, instead of rewriting from scratch a man page. And this could be a way to only have one unique set of docs to maintain, and to refer to, instead of

OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Marquess
With some trepidation, and considerable assistance from a small group of earlier adopters, I hereby unleash a new OpenSSL Wiki on an unsuspecting world: http://wiki.opensslfoundation.com/ There is a need for more and better OpenSSL documentation, and the hopeful theory here is that this Wiki

RE: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Salz, Rich
http://wiki.opensslfoundation.com/ Great. It would be good to have a link pointing to this on the documents tab on openssl.org -- Principal Security Engineer Akamai Technology Cambridge, MA __ OpenSSL Project

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
assistance from a small group of earlier adopters, I hereby unleash a new OpenSSL Wiki on an unsuspecting world: http://wiki.opensslfoundation.com/ There is a need for more and better OpenSSL documentation, and the hopeful theory here is that this Wiki will serve as a focal point

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 10:47 AM, Pierre DELAAGE wrote: Dear Steve, I was wondering whether the wiki could be fed at the beginning by all the Documents available at http://www.openssl.org/docs/;. Very often people are able to comment, eg, a command page with some samples or error comments, instead

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
Dear Ben and Steve, I think that once the wiki is at least fed by the docs, the docs space should link directly to the wiki, to avoid duplication... The purpose of the wiki is to get more people involved in the doc, and hopefully to get a more up-to-date doc, and I would say : to prevent experts

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 10:47 AM, Pierre DELAAGE wrote: Dear Steve, I was wondering whether the wiki could be fed at the beginning by all the Documents available at http://www.openssl.org/docs/;. Very often people are able to comment, eg, a command page with some samples or error comments, instead

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
Dear Steve, I am pleased you found something useful in my comments. Just to mention : Yes I suggest something like you said ...three major divisions: reference, programming, and didactic.. I would just add : programming/...using, I am thinking about the command line tools... although, as they

Re: OpenSSL Wiki (export back to orig docs)

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
Dear Ben and Steve, I think that once the wiki is at least fed by the docs, the docs space should link directly to the wiki, to avoid duplication... The purpose of the wiki is to get more people involved in the doc, and hopefully to get a more up-to-date doc, and I would say : to prevent experts

Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
hmm, Steve I highly suggest that we have a look at ...OpenOffice and its various export filters. for mediawiki it is there : http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/fr/node/738 for Docbook the filter is embedded (never tested by myself..). Does it help ? Pierre Le 19/03/2013 20:38, Steve

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Matt Caswell
On 19 March 2013 19:38, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: I took a quick look to see what utilities might be available to convert between pod and mediawiki markup formats. pod2markdown (CPAN) is close but not quite there. The pod markup language is pretty basic. If something

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Tim Rice
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Matt Caswell wrote: Alternatively we just ditch pod altogether - but that would lose the ability to create man pages (does anyone still read man pages)? Yes, some of us still do. -- Tim RiceMultitalents t...@multitalents.net

Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 04:04 PM, Pierre DELAAGE wrote: hmm, Steve I highly suggest that we have a look at ...OpenOffice and its various export filters. for mediawiki it is there : http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/fr/node/738 for Docbook the filter is embedded (never tested by myself..).

Re: OpenSSL Wiki

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Marquess
On 03/19/2013 04:59 PM, Matt Caswell wrote: On 19 March 2013 19:38, Steve Marquess marqu...@opensslfoundation.com wrote: I took a quick look to see what utilities might be available to convert between pod and mediawiki markup formats. pod2markdown (CPAN) is close but not quite there. The

Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
Hi Steve, My own experience in my company is that OpenOffice is perfectly suited for track changes in a collaborative env. Ok, allright, it cannot offer a line by line diff as in cvs systems, and return to specific version and so on, but the track changes can help. In my company, we were

???: Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-19 Thread Ann Idol
:o*@nn-idol*::D -Original Message- From: Pierre DELAAGE Sent: 3/19/2013 11:49:24 PM To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Cc: Steve Marquess Subject: Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...) Hi Steve, My own experience in my company is that OpenOffice is perfectly suited for track changes

???: Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...)

2013-03-19 Thread Ann Idol
:o*@nn-idol*::D -Original Message- From: Pierre DELAAGE Sent: 3/19/2013 11:49:24 PM To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Cc: Steve Marquess Subject: Re: OpenSSL Wiki (docbook and...) Hi Steve, My own experience in my company is that OpenOffice is perfectly suited for track changes