On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 12:51:19PM +, Salz, Rich via openssl-users wrote:
> * topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
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> *
>
> * 4 against, 3 for, no absensions
>
> I am at a loss for words.
>
> I can’t contribute to a project that feels this way.
I would like to point
On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 12:38:55PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote:
> There's nothing wrong with being inclusive. Buildbot
> was not harmed by removing the word 'slave' from
> its codebase.
In case it is not yet abundantly clear, social justince discussions are
off-topic for this list. Please stop. If
There's nothing wrong with being inclusive. Buildbot
was not harmed by removing the word 'slave' from
its codebase.
- Dan
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Donald R Laster Jr
wrote:
> Dan,
>
>The words "slave" and "master" have no negative or positive
> connotations in relation to software
On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 03:12:15PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> To suggest that choice of language is irrelevant is ill-informed to
> sneer at it is plain stupid.
Let's avoid name calling (and while were' at it, actually close this
unproductive thread).
--
VIktor.
I see a lot of slippery slope fallacy in this thread. A small verbiage
change that hurts almost no one but increases inclusivity in an open source
project shouldn't be controversial to anyone but those who have an ax to
grind.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 8:51 AM Salz, Rich via openssl-users <
On 03-07-2020 14:51, Salz, Rich via openssl-users wrote:
* topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
*
* 4 against, 3 for, no absensions
I am at a loss for words.
I can’t contribute to a project that feels this way. The OMC (list at
[1], a picture of some of them at [2] although
For many people involved in developing cryptographic infrastructures,
politics are a major concern.
Getting the politics correct is important.
The true power in this world lies in shaping what people believe. What my
friend Joe Nye calls 'soft power'. To suggest that choice of language is
The issue is moot for now, let's move on.
--
Viktor.
It might be worth reminding folks of
https://www.openssl.org/community/conduct.html
which says
"We strive to be an open and inclusive community where anyone can
contribute."
- Dan
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Donald R Laster Jr
wrote:
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> Having just noticed the last 4 or 5 emails related
Rich, I just want to wish you well on your future endeavors. You've got
valuable skills as a software developer. Hopefully whatever negative
experiences you've recently encountered won't dissuade you from
contributing to open source projects in the future. There are, after
all, an infinite
Having just noticed the last 4 or 5 emails related to this thread I have to say
this is classic political correctness garbage.
Don
Dan Kegel wrote on 07/04/2020 11:35 AM:
Likewise. Thank you, Rich!
When this issue came up in Buildbot 5 years ago, there was a fair bit of...
discussion,
Likewise. Thank you, Rich!
When this issue came up in Buildbot 5 years ago, there was a fair bit of...
discussion, see
http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/2340
The resolution back then was to rename 'slave' to 'worker', which was a LOT
of
work, and seemed to satisfy everybody at the time.
It came up
Can we please put the knives a way? Rich has given a lot to this
community. As an openssl user, I'd rather the conversation moved along.
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On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 05:45:22PM +, Jordan Brown wrote:
> On 7/3/2020 6:03 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
> > Also hypocrite of Akamai, looking at the composition of the executive team.
>
> I think it's pretty clear that Rich was speaking as himself, not as a
> representative of Akamai.
Hi Jordan,
If you are lucky .. enjoy your 4th
Most of us are not so lucky ..
On 03/07/2020 13:51, Salz, Rich via openssl-users wrote:
* topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
*
* 4 against, 3 for, no absensions
I am at a loss for words.
I can’t contribute to a project that feels this way. The OMC (list at [1], a
picture of some of them at
This is not the appropriate forum for dissecting the personal actions
individual contributors.
Let's return to OpenSSL- related topics. It would be best if there
are no further posts in this thread.
--
Viktor.
On 7/3/2020 10:46 AM, Karl Denninger wrote:
> On 7/3/2020 13:45, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> On 7/3/2020 6:03 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
>>> Also hypocrite of Akamai, looking at the composition of the executive team.
>> I think it's pretty clear that Rich was speaking as himself, not as a
>> representative
On 7/3/2020 13:45, Jordan Brown wrote:
> On 7/3/2020 6:03 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
>> Also hypocrite of Akamai, looking at the composition of the executive team.
>
> I think it's pretty clear that Rich was speaking as himself, not as a
> representative of Akamai.
>
Sorry, that's not how it works.
You
On 7/3/2020 6:03 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
> Also hypocrite of Akamai, looking at the composition of the executive team.
I think it's pretty clear that Rich was speaking as himself, not as a
representative of Akamai.
--
Jordan Brown, Oracle ZFS Storage Appliance, Oracle Solaris
out/leadership/executive-team/operating-committee.jsp
>
To me it reminds me of the Minitrue RecDep.
>
> -Original Message-
> To: openssl-users
> Subject: Goodbye
>
> * topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
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> *
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> * 4 again
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To: openssl-users
Subject: Goodbye
* topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
*
* 4 against, 3 for, no absensions
I am at a loss for words.
I can’t contribute to a project that feels this way. The OMC (list at
[1], a picture of some of them at [2] although
* topic: Change some words by accepting PR#12089
*
* 4 against, 3 for, no absensions
I am at a loss for words.
I can’t contribute to a project that feels this way. The OMC (list at [1], a
picture of some of them at [2] although it includes non-OMC members) is, in my
view, on the
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