Changing the subject to be more relevant to my questions. Just wanted to ping 
the list again.


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From: openssl-users <openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org> on behalf of Jason 
Schultz <jetso...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:21 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org <openssl-users@openssl.org>
Subject: Re: OpenSSL server sending certificate chain(inc. root cert) during 
handshake

I apologize for bringing this old subject back up, but I'm running into 
something I wanted to poll the list on.

Based on Victor's email below, I am doing the following in my application to 
set up my server to send a certificate chain *excluding* the root certificate 
during a handshake.

status = SSL_CTX_set_mode(ctx, SSL_MODE_NO_AUTO_CHAIN);
status = SSL_CTX_build_cert_chain(ctx, SSL_BUILD_CHAIN_FLAG_NO_ROOT);

When I configure a certificate chain, the server sends the chain, excluding the 
root. The call to SSL_CTX_build_cert_chain() accomplishes this, with the "no 
root" flag. This works as expected.

The interesting part comes in when I am configuring a self-signed certificate 
as the server cert.

** NOTE **: I know this isn't recommended, this is ONLY for test purposes, and 
our users will configure servers in this way, also ONLY for test purposes. This 
is why I'm testing the operation of this configuration.

As Victor indicated, my EE certificate is also the entire chain; of 1 
self-signed certificate. Setting the SSL_MODE_AUTO_CHAIN flag allowed me to 
configure a self-signed certificate on the server, the two calls above succeed, 
and my server sends that single, self-signed cert in the handshake. This is 
true for version 3 self-signed certificates, with the CA bit set.

If I have a version 1 *RSA* certificate, with the CA bit NOT set(so CA:FALSE), 
the call to SSL_CTX_build_cert_chain() errors. I think this is the expected 
behavior. Does everyone agree with that? Since OpenSSL 1.1.1 is more strict 
regarding the CA bit, the building of the "chain" will fail because a 
self-signed cert MUST have CA:TRUE.

The incorrect behavior I think I'm seeing is when configuring a self-signed 
ECDSA certificate. I'll paste the certificate below, but I would think this 
version 1 certificate that does NOT have CA:TRUE would error in the same was 
the similar RSA certificate did above. Does anyone know what could be the 
result of the (seemingly) different behavior? Are there any other tests I could 
try to lead me to an answer?

Thanks,

Jason


TEST:/etc/ssl # openssl x509 -text -noout -in certs/ecdsacert.pem
Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 1 (0x0)
        Serial Number:
            de:6e:db:59:3a:03:e5:ac
    Signature Algorithm: ecdsa-with-SHA256
        Issuer: C=US, ST=State, L=City, O=Company, OU=Networking, 
CN=COMMON-NAME/emailAddress=john....@example.com
        Validity
            Not Before: Mar 17 18:23:09 2020 GMT
            Not After : Mar 17 18:23:09 2021 GMT
        Subject: C=US, ST=State, L=City, O=Company, OU=Networking, 
CN=COMMON-NAME/emailAddress=john....@example.com
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: id-ecPublicKey
                Public-Key: (256 bit)
                pub:
                    04:dc:67:d3:f5:53:0b:c9:3c:13:e9:d9:52:17:60:
                    fb:a2:f6:ad:98:74:a4:1b:6d:57:52:81:d3:e5:8f:
                    e9:0f:a6:32:81:8f:f6:6d:3f:f2:1c:1c:6b:a7:c6:
                    3a:59:a3:c8:ce:12:08:ee:5c:8c:3e:4f:52:cb:35:
                    dc:6b:1a:de:59
                ASN1 OID: prime256v1
                NIST CURVE: P-256
    Signature Algorithm: ecdsa-with-SHA256
         30:45:02:20:66:d8:35:06:98:38:0a:88:57:c4:8d:30:02:97:
         3a:e7:4f:34:4a:50:d2:5c:e7:16:61:80:b3:43:41:7f:71:42:
         02:21:00:82:c2:39:b5:52:d4:e9:aa:21:d5:d1:fb:e8:01:e2:
         aa:81:16:75:cb:0d:2c:33:f6:34:5b:54:80:ac:82:66:4f



________________________________
From: openssl-users <openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org> on behalf of Viktor 
Dukhovni <openssl-us...@dukhovni.org>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 9:44 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org <openssl-users@openssl.org>
Subject: Re: OpenSSL server sending certificate chain(inc. root cert) during 
handshake

> On May 31, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Jason Schultz <jetso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> My questions deal with #2: Why does OpenSSL include the root cert in the 
> certificate chain?

The OpenSSL SSL_CTX_build_cert_chain(3) function constructs a complete
chain of trust for your certificate chain, based on the configured trust
stores (CAfile and/or CApath).  If you call this function, then you can
control how your certificates chain is augmented.

But if your EE certificate is the entire chain, then the internal automatic
chain construction code will assume that the chain was not built, and will
try to augment it unless you set the SSL_MODE_NO_AUTO_CHAIN flag via:

  SSL_CTX_set_mode(3), or
  SSL_set_mode(3)

[ Which really ought to also document SSL_MODE_NO_AUTO_CHAIN ]

> Will the root cert be included in the chain any time it's in the same 
> directory
> as the server cert?

No, the chain is augmented based on the configured trust stores, and does
not directly consider the directory holding the chain file.

> Is there a way, via API call, configuration, etc, to force OpenSSL to NOT 
> send the
> root certificate as part of the chain in this case?

You can set a CAfile/CApath that do not include the location of the root
cert, or disable automatic chain construction, and build the chain just
the way you like it via SSL_CTX_build_cert_chain(3), possibly passing the
SSL_BUILD_CHAIN_FLAG_NO_ROOT flag.

--
        Viktor.

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