Re: [Openstack] Glance, libvirt/kvm snapshots

2011-02-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ahmed El Gamil wrote: (nova.compute.manager): TRACE: Error: Unexpected error while running command. (nova.compute.manager): TRACE: Command: /usr/bin/curl --fail --silent http://ip address:/_images/2/image -H 'Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:23:23 GMT' -H 'Authorization: AWS

Re: [Openstack] Glance, libvirt/kvm snapshots

2011-02-17 Thread Rick Harris
Hey Ahmed, TL;DR Glance doesn't appear to be supported with libvirt driver yet. Judging by the stack trace, it looks like the code is taking an S3 code path even though you've selected the GlanceImageService. Looking through the code, it doesn't appear that the libvirt/Glance code is there

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Soren Hansen wrote: That's really a corollary to this proposal: Being in nova-core means you have a review day once every N days (where N is the amount of (human) members of nova-core). As such, if you're not prepared to accept such a review day, you don't get to be part of the team. Simple.

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: That's really a corollary to this proposal: Being in nova-core means you have a review day once every N days (where N is the amount of (human) members of nova-core). As such, if you're not prepared to accept such a review day, you don't get to

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Sandy Walsh
I'll throw my hat in the ring for core if deemed worthy. Soren's point about 1 review day per # core developers was refreshing. I had previously held back from applying because I was afraid all my time would be tied up with reviews. ? From:

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: That's really a corollary to this proposal: Being in nova-core means you have a review day once every N days (where N is the amount of (human) members of nova-core). As such, if

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: Not sure what the etiquette is for removing someone. Michael Gundlach is still listed but is no longer participating. I think these sorts of things can be resolved on the mailing list just fine. It's not a big deal

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Josh Kearney wrote: I'm with Sandy on this. I'd like to step in as well. Could you each start a new thread about your application ? That should make it easier to track the lazy consensus described in: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release

[Openstack] Proposal to be a member of Nova Core ...

2011-02-17 Thread Sandy Walsh
I'd like to help out on the review process as per http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess I like quiet walks in the park and black and white movies. -Sandy Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message (including any attached or embedded documents) is intended for the

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jim Curry
Soren, can you clarify what you mean by Ubuntu being the primary platform? Why is that the reference? What limitations does this introduce? Jim On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/2/17 Brian Schott bfsch...@gmail.com: One thing we saw in the list and experienced first

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com wrote: I don't like that it currently only runs on ubuntu + the ppa. If it doesn't work with existing versions I think we're doing something wrong. Even when natty comes out, I don't like the idea of having to ensure I have

Re: [Openstack] Proposal to be a member of Nova Core

2011-02-17 Thread Rick Clark
+1 for jk0 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Jk0 has been contributing a lot and doing reviews even when they don't count. All reviews count :) -jay ___

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/2/17 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com: Also, good point to keep in mind: Membership to nova-core isn't a privilege or even any fun. It's a responsibility and a duty to your fellow contributors :) The first draft of my e-mail said something about it being a chore, but I decided to edit that

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/2/17 Jim Curry jim.cu...@rackspace.com: Soren, can you clarify what you mean by Ubuntu being the primary platform?   Why is that the reference?  What limitations does this introduce? It's the primary platform because it's the platform we test everything on, it's the platform we spend time

Re: [Openstack] Proposal to be a member of Nova Core

2011-02-17 Thread Matt Dietz
+1 :-D From: Josh Kearney josh.kear...@rackspace.commailto:josh.kear...@rackspace.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:32:04 -0600 To: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] Proposal to be a member of Nova Core I'd like to volunteer my time to help out

Re: [Openstack] Monsyne Dragon requesting Core-Dev status for nova.

2011-02-17 Thread Devin Carlen
I think the best way to get involved is to just start doing reviews. A branch still requires 2 core reviews to be merged, but that doesn't mean other people can't jump in and give their 2 cents in the meantime. So just dive on in and you can start learning about the review process and helping

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com wrote: sounds like a good plan to me :) Awesome. I'm glad you're taking the lead on this ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/720941 Cheers! jay ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Openstack] Monsyne Dragon requesting Core-Dev status for nova.

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
I would agree with Devin. Monsyne, I'd like to see some of your reviews before I give a thumbs up to nova-core. Please do participate in the review process so we've got a bit more to base a decision on. :) Of course, I may just be missing reviews you have done? If so, please don't hesitate to

Re: [Openstack] Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-02-17 Thread Stephen Spector
Devs: The time to decide on GSOC is fast approaching. As I indicated earlier this month, we will decide to proceed based on the projects developers would like to submit. As of today, there are no project submissions at the Wiki page at http://wiki.openstack.org/Project%20List. The schedule

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: Jay, Thanks for throwing this out. How would we build this with Hudson? What would a standard deploy of Nova even look like for integration tests? I replied with some specifics to Trey, who had a similar question,

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
No disagreement with anything you say below, Matt. More testing of all kinds, including unit tests, should be a priority. Cheers, jay On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Matt Dietz matt.di...@rackspace.com wrote: These are all great points Jay. I'd like to re-echo the comment about unit tests.

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Devin Carlen
Great thoughts Jay - I think a push to improve test coverage is a great goal for Cactus. It seems like we are getting new contributors faster than ever these days. I would like to suggest that we create a blueprint called something like improve test coverage and create a number of bug

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Devin Carlen
+1, this is a great suggestion. On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Although Soren adequately explained why he thinks that running run_tests.sh on Hudson should *not* be against a pip/virtualenv setup, I would like to state that I think it would be a good idea to have Hudson do

Re: [Openstack] Proposal to be a member of Nova Core ...

2011-02-17 Thread Soren Hansen
+1! (Yup, that was +factorial(1), for those keeping score at home) 2011/2/17 Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com: I'd like to help out on the review process as per http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess I like quiet walks in the park and black and white movies. -Sandy

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Lorin Hochstein
On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: I understand the motivation, I'm just not sure I want the latter to actually block a merge. As an example, the recent race condition I spotted and fixed required a patch to land in eventlet. If the latter was allowed to block a merge, we'd

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jim Curry
Got it. But the primary tradeoff is simply that we need to make sure any changes we make to another platforms don't break the Ubuntu integration? And in general that should not be a major issue...? Jim On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/2/17 Jim Curry

[Openstack] Queue Service, next steps

2011-02-17 Thread Eric Day
Thanks to everyone who gave great feedback on the first queue service thread. I've updated the wiki page to include the suggestions. http://wiki.openstack.org/QueueService With a decent vision of what we want to build, the next step is figuring out how. In a previous thread it was suggested that

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jim Curry
By defining an unbreakable reference platform, are we necessarily limiting its ability to integrate on other platforms? That is my underlying question. I understand the need for a reference platform but am trying to understand to what extent that results in us not being able to easily support

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/2/17 Jim Curry jim.cu...@rackspace.com: By defining an unbreakable reference platform, are we necessarily limiting its ability to integrate on other platforms?  That is my underlying question.  I understand the need for a reference platform but am trying to understand to what extent

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Paul Voccio
I wanted to put out into the open where we think the evolution of the apis will go over the next few releases. This is by no means the only way to do this, but I thought it would be a start of conversation. http://wiki.openstack.org/api_transition I also wanted to clear up some confusion that

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Brian Schott
Believe, me we know. Our team is bringing up OpenStack on our heterogeneous testbed, a 1TB 256core SGI UltraViolet machine, three Nvidia S2050 boards connected to three SGI XE500 boxes (exposing the GPUs to new instance types using a modified gVirtuS driver), and a nova-compute proxy managing

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
Pulling volumes images out into separate services (and moving from AMQP to REST) sounds like a huge breaking change, so if that is indeed the plan, let's do that asap (i.e. Cactus). On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.comwrote: I wanted to put out into the

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Brian Schott
Agreed. I don't think bleeding-edge pip should block a merge either. It could cause a lot of false-positives. I do think up-to-date Natty, Maverick, and Lucid with build-depends from PPA should be tested, probably CentOS and SUSE if that can be automated. You want apt-get dist-upgrade ;

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: Pulling volumes images out into separate services (and moving from AMQP to REST) sounds like a huge breaking change, so if that is indeed the plan, let's do that asap (i.e. Cactus). Sorry, I have to disagree with

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
An API is for life, not just for Cactus. I agree that stability is important. I don't see how we can claim to deliver 'stability' when the plan is then immediately to destablize everything with a very disruptive change soon after, including customer facing API changes and massive internal

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Lorin Hochstein
On Feb 17, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/2/17 Lorin Hochstein lo...@isi.edu: For those who deploy on platforms other than Ubuntu, are these customizations recorded somewhere in the OpenStack documentation? Hmm.. No. I submitted it upstream, applied it in Ubuntu, and uploaded

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
Sorry, I don't view the proposed changes from AMQP to REST as being customer facing API changes. Could you explain? These are internal interfaces, no? -jay On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: An API is for life, not just for Cactus. I agree that

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Trey Morris wrote: I don't like that it currently only runs on ubuntu + the ppa. If it doesn't work with existing versions I think we're doing something wrong. Even when natty comes out, I don't like the idea of having to ensure I have latest ubuntu for openstack to run. Maybe with my Ubuntu

Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting this week

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Reminder that we've got a meeting today at 2100UTC/3:00 PM central. On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: In the meeting last week, we approved the 2011 Scope and Charter and discussed the image format proposal and intermediate releases without any final decision. John Purrier

[Openstack-xenapi] Requesting input on vm-params for Nova

2011-02-17 Thread Cory Wright
Hi, I'm working to provide a way in Nova to pass configurable boot parameters to XenServer instances based on the os type of the image. We (Rackspace) have been doing this in our older code base for some time. Linux instances are provided certain parameters and Windows instances get others. I'd