Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Ziad Sawalha Sent: 16 August 2011 22:17 To: Mark Nottingham; ksan...@doubleclix.net Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services Keystone has been assigned TCP port 35357 by IANA. We'll make that the default port. Thanks

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
functions) Ewan. -Original Message- From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] Sent: 23 August 2011 19:37 To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; ksan...@doubleclix.net Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services The Admin API

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
; ksan...@doubleclix.net Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services Admin and Service start on different ports (and potentially different networks). That's a deployment option we are trying to support from the get go to allow for deployments where

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
; Mark Nottingham; ksan...@doubleclix.net Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services Yes, we'll probably be getting rid of some of those. They've been useful for testing (you can chose one, the other, or both) while we waited for a more robust

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services Shouldn't it be a sysadmin's headache? I think, it should be secure enough to run both APIs on one port and let sysadmin decide to allow or deny

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-16 Thread Ziad Sawalha
that purpose. c) Also, on the port numbers, I assume they will manifest as universal constants and/or a configuration file in a universally (or intergalactically ;o)) known place. Cheers k/ Original Message Subject: [Openstack] Default ports for services From: Ziad Sawalha ziad.sawa

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Todd Willey wrote: I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to 80 or 443. But there are a number of ways to get to that outcome, including specifying it in the server configuration, or running behind load balancers or other front-end services. Running everything be

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Ziad Sawalha
The effort Jay (and others) are doing on standardizing across services could also be helpful here; having a -p --ports command-line and config setting that works with all services would make it easier to stand up a set of services on non-conflicting ports. On 6/25/11 9:11 PM, Todd Willey

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Ziad Sawalha
We have the service catalog functionality in Keystone which provides discovery. We still need to complete the user story of how a service registers itself; the functionality is available, but not fully documented as a story. The question of ports still remains, though. How do you find Keystone?

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/6/25 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com: Can you explain why having the *default* port be 80/8080 for HTTP services would hinder that? Unless I'm mistaken, spinning up servers on different ports is as simple as specifying a set of test config files that have ports set for an all-on-one-machine

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: 2011/6/25 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com: Can you explain why having the *default* port be 80/8080 for HTTP services would hinder that? Unless I'm mistaken, spinning up servers on different ports is as simple as specifying a

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Bryan Taylor
If we use something other than 80 for http and/or 443 for https, then clients will have to know magic numbers for the port and firewall obstacles will annoy them. I don't see HTTP as something we just happen to have chosen. We should prefer convention over configuration, and embrace the

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Jay Pipes
So, I gather you're agreeing with me? :) -jay On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Bryan Taylor btay...@rackspace.com wrote: If we use something other than 80 for http and/or 443 for https, then clients will have to know magic numbers for the port and firewall obstacles will annoy them. I don't

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Todd Willey
I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to 80 or 443. But there are a number of ways to get to that outcome, including specifying it in the server configuration, or running behind load balancers or other front-end services. Running everything be default on different

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Bryan Taylor
Right, but it's not all about deployment, because representations within the API have absolute hrefs embedded within them. On 6/26/11 12:11 PM, Todd Willey t...@ansolabs.com wrote: I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to 80 or 443. But there are a number of ways

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Todd Willey t...@ansolabs.com wrote: I'd prefer to keep it convenient to develop and demo on a single machine.  I don't think there is any added inconvenience during deployment if the ports are not the standard http ports. Can you explain why having the

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-25 Thread Todd Willey
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Todd Willey t...@ansolabs.com wrote: I'd prefer to keep it convenient to develop and demo on a single machine.  I don't think there is any added inconvenience during deployment if the ports

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-24 Thread ksankar
/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services From: Mark Nottingham m...@mnot.net Date: Thu, June 23, 2011 10:46 pm To: ksan...@doubleclix.net ksan...@doubleclix.net Cc: "Ziad Sawalha" ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com, "openstack@lists.launchpad

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-24 Thread Jay Pipes
wrote: Where's the best place to keep track of default ports for services to avoid conflicts? A wiki page on wiki.openstack.org? We had a discussion while working on Keystone about default ports for OpenStack services (https://github.com/rackspace/keystone/issues/31). We want OpenStack to work 'out

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-24 Thread Todd Willey
to keep track of default ports for services to avoid conflicts? A wiki page on wiki.openstack.org? We had a discussion while working on Keystone about default ports for OpenStack services (https://github.com/rackspace/keystone/issues/31). We want OpenStack to work 'out-of-the-box' without built

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-23 Thread ksankar
, on the port numbers, I assume they will manifest as universal constants and/or a configuration file in a universally (or intergalactically ;o)) known place.Cheersk/ Original Message Subject: [Openstack] Default ports for services From: Ziad Sawalha ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com Date: Wed