[openstack-dev] [Openstack][keystone][LDAP] Error about enable and desc attribute type undefine.

2013-08-20 Thread Qinglong.Meng
Hi all, I configure keystone with ldap backend followed LDAP section of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html, and when I create tenant in ldap, I got the error about enable and desc attribute type undefined in keystone.log. Here is keystone.conf:

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-20 Thread Bob Ball
I agree with the below from a XenServer perspective. As with vmware, XenServer supports live snapshotting and creating multiple clones from that live snapshot. I understand that there is a XenAPI equivalent in the works and therefore would argue the API changes need to be accepted as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 20/08/13 00:15 -0700, Mark Washenberger wrote: 2) I highly caution folks who think a No-SQL store is a good storage solution for any of the data currently used by Nova, Glance (registry), Cinder (registry), Ceilometer, and Quantum. All of the data stored and

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 14:12 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: This may interest data-driven types here. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/11-proven-practices-for-peer-review/ Note specifically the citation of 200-400 lines as the knee of the review effectiveness curve: that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] tarballs of savanna-extra

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Farrellee
Is there a downside to having it? A positive is it gives a snapshot of everything for each release. I'm not at fan of having a snapshot of the Hadoop swift patches compiled into a jar and stored in the repository. I'd prefer that it is hosted elsewhere. Best, matt On 08/19/2013 04:37 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][VPNaaS] Supporting OpenSwan or StrongSwan or Both?

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Michali
Was the original reasoning to use StrongSwan over OpenSwan, only because of community support? I vaguely recall something mentioned about StrongSwan having additional capabilities or something. Can anyone confirm? As far as which option, it sounds like B or C-2 are the better choices, just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Concerning get_resources/get_meters and the Ceilometer API

2013-08-20 Thread Thomas Maddox
On 8/19/13 8:21 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: On 08/18/2013 04:04 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:10 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Aug 16 2013, Jay Pipes wrote: Actually, that's the opposite of what I'm suggesting :) I'm suggesting getting rid of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Pipes
*sigh* I wish I'd been aware of these conversations and been in the Grizzly summit session on soft delete... What specific unique constraint was needed that changing the deleted column to use the id value solved? -jay On 08/19/2013 03:56 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: 'deleted' is used so that

Re: [openstack-dev] VMwareAPI sub-team status update 2013-08-19

2013-08-20 Thread Shawn Hartsock
The script is stupid. If my name isn't on the list of reviewers, sometimes it fails to catch the patch. I'll add myself to these. # Shawn Hartsock - Original Message - From: Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com To: Shawn Hartsock hartso...@vmware.com, openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to revert per-user-quotas

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew Laski
The patch in question (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28232/24) adds the ability to track quota usage on a per user basis within a project. I have run into two issues with it so far: the db migration is incomplete and leaves the data in a bad state, and the sync methods used during quota

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 14:12 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: This may interest data-driven types here. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/11-proven-practices-for-peer-review/ Note specifically the citation of

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:02:12PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 14:12 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: This may interest data-driven types here.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-20 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: There are a couple of things that would worry me about an hypothetic support for NoSQL but I guess one that I'd consider very critical is migrations. Some could argue asking whether we'd really need them or not - when talking about

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Anne Gentle
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote: In this thread about code review: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/013701.html I mentioned that I thought there were too many blueprints created without sufficient supporting design

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Buffington
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: The full study is here: http://support.smartbear.com/resources/cc/book/code-review-cisco-case-study.pdf I can't find the data they based their numbers on,

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Anne Gentle wrote: - Less than 1 in 4 blueprints is created before the devel period starts for a release. I find this date mismatch especially intriguing, because the Foundation and member company sponsors spend millions on Design Summits annually and caters so much to getting

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 14:38 -0300, Thierry Carrez wrote: Note that in some cases, some improvements that do not clearly fall into the bug category are landed without a blueprint link (or a bug link). So a first step could be to require that a review always references a bug or a blueprint

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to revert per-user-quotas

2013-08-20 Thread Yingjun Li
Thanks for address the issues. About the bad state for fixed_ips, floating_ips, i think we could make the user_id column=NULL when creating the quota usage and reservation, so the usages for fixed_ips and floating_ips will be synced within the project. Does this make sense? 2013/8/20 Andrew

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:36:39AM -0500, Anne Gentle wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote: The data for the last 3 releases is: Series: folsom Specs: 178 Specs (no URL): 144 Specs (w/ URL): 34 Specs (Early): 38

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V Meeting minutes

2013-08-20 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
Today's Hyper-V meeting minutes: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-08-20-16.06.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-08-20-16.06.txt Log:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-20 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 20/08/13 00:15 -0700, Mark Washenberger wrote: 2) I highly caution folks who think a No-SQL store is a good storage solution for any of the data currently used by Nova, Glance (registry),

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to revert per-user-quotas

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/21/13 at 12:02am, Yingjun Li wrote: Thanks for address the issues. About the bad state for fixed_ips, floating_ips, i think we could make the user_id column=NULL when creating the quota usage and reservation, so the usages for fixed_ips and floating_ips will be synced within the project.

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:18:21PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:53:25PM -0300, Thierry Carrez wrote: Anne Gentle wrote: - Less than 1 in 4 blueprints is created before the devel period starts for a release. I find this date mismatch

Re: [openstack-dev] proposing Alex Gaynor for core on openstack/requirements

2013-08-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
Without any objections, I've added Alex Gaynor to the requirements-core team. Welcome, Alex! On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2013-08-16 11:04:14 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I'd like to propose Alex Gaynor for core status on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][VPNaaS] Supporting OpenSwan or StrongSwan or Both?

2013-08-20 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Paul 2013/8/20 Paul Michali p...@cisco.com: Was the original reasoning to use StrongSwan over OpenSwan, only because of community support? I vaguely recall something mentioned about StrongSwan having additional capabilities or something. Can anyone confirm? As far as which option, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo.db] Eventlet in db (was, Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.)

2013-08-20 Thread Joshua Harlow
Ok, that’s good. I don't think the following though would work. Maybe something else is needed? try: import eventlet eventlet_on = True except ImportError: eventlet_on = False Due to how oslo.db could be used the environment may actually have eventlet installed (say a server

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-20 Thread John Bresnahan
Mark, good thoughts (as usual) On 08/19/2013 09:15 PM, Mark Washenberger wrote: The goal isn't really to replace sqlalchemy completely. Perhaps my problem is that I am not exactly sure what the goals are. Cleanup (BL mixed in the BL seems wrong)? HA or performance (are people hitting limits

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][keystone][LDAP] Error about enable and desc attribute type undefine.

2013-08-20 Thread XINYU ZHAO
Which release are you using? According to my experience last year when ldap backend was much more premature, i had to add those attributes in my ldap server's manually, because there is no such attribute in its schema. I don't know the status now. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Qinglong.Meng

[openstack-dev] [nova] rpcapi versions control with can_send_version()

2013-08-20 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Folks, Now we have explicit control to limit the version of rpc methods that can be sent, but I'm wondering what I need to do now to make the next version of a call adding an additional parameter. It looks like the current code is really focused on the data types being passed, rather that

Re: [openstack-dev] proposing Alex Gaynor for core on openstack/requirements

2013-08-20 Thread Alex Gaynor
Thanks everyone, I look forward to continuing to help out! Alex On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.comwrote: Without any objections, I've added Alex Gaynor to the requirements-core team. Welcome, Alex! On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley

Re: [openstack-dev] Stats on blueprint design info / creation times

2013-08-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:18:21PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:53:25PM -0300, Thierry Carrez wrote: It would be more interesting to check how many blueprints are created more than two weeks after the design summit. Those would be the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] rpcapi versions control with can_send_version()

2013-08-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/20/2013 01:37 PM, Day, Phil wrote: If I want to add a parameter and bump this to version 2.36, do I just change the version checked in can_send_version – or should there now be specific handling for each new version: Specific handling for each version would be ideal. We want to send the

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-08-20 03:26:01 -0700: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 14:12 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: This may interest data-driven types here. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/11-proven-practices-for-peer-review/ Note specifically the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Concerning get_resources/get_meters and the Ceilometer API

2013-08-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 08/20/2013 10:42 AM, Thomas Maddox wrote: On 8/19/13 8:21 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: On 08/18/2013 04:04 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:10 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Aug 16 2013, Jay Pipes wrote: Actually, that's the opposite of what I'm suggesting

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Jay, Don't worry I investigate this question very well. There are actually two approaches: 1) Use deleted_at to create Unique Constraints. But then we are not able to store in deleted_at NONE value, because it won't work e.g. We have table for Users (user_name, deleted_at, deleted), and we

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [oslo] postpone key distribution bp until icehouse?

2013-08-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 18:02 -0300, Thierry Carrez wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 14:06 -0300, Thierry Carrez wrote: I explained why I prefer it to land in a few weeks rather than now... Can someone explain why they prefer the reverse ? Why does it have to be in havana ?

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: For instances table, we want to make sure 'uuid' is unique. But we can't put a unique constraint on that alone. If that instance gets deleted.. we should be able to create another entry with the same uuid without a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Pipes
I see the following use case: 1) Create something with a unique name within your tenant 2) Delete that 3) Create something with the same unique name immediately after As a pointless and silly use case that we should not cater to. It's made the database schema needlessly complex IMO and added

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Chris Behrens
On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Ed Leafe e...@openstack.org wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: For instances table, we want to make sure 'uuid' is unique. But we can't put a unique constraint on that alone. If that instance gets deleted.. we

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Chris Behrens
On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: I see the following use case: 1) Create something with a unique name within your tenant 2) Delete that 3) Create something with the same unique name immediately after As a pointless and silly use case that we should not

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Mike Perez
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: We should take a look at look at the various entities in the various database schemata and ask the following questions: 1) Do we care about archival of the entity? 2) Do we care about audit history of changes to the

[openstack-dev] [Glance] import task update

2013-08-20 Thread Brian Rosmaita
In light of today's IRC meeting in #openstack-glance (notes in etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/LG39UnQA7z), I've updated the tasks api document and the import document: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-tasks-api https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-tasks-import cheers,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/20/2013 05:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: We should take a look at look at the various

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] import task update

2013-08-20 Thread Joshua Harlow
Very cool, would u consider trying to use taskflow for some of this. It seems to fit (or could fit) part of the bill nicely. I'd be up to working with you guys to make this happen, if you guys want to discuss more u know where to find me (on IRC, ha). On 8/20/13 2:44 PM, Brian Rosmaita

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/20/2013 05:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: We should take a look at look at the various

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/20/2013 05:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com

[openstack-dev] [Swift] now with pbr

2013-08-20 Thread John Dickinson
A quick note to let everyone know that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28892/ has merged and now means that Swift is using pbr for version numbers. This has a couple of consequences that need to be made public: 1) In order to migrate to using pbr, we consumed the 1.9.2 version. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Mike Perez
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: For #1 and #2, really this sounds like another thing doing this along with Ceilometer. I would really like to leave this in Ceilometer and not have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Concerning get_resources/get_meters and the Ceilometer API

2013-08-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/19/2013 08:27 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote: On 08/19/2013 05:08 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Sun, Aug 18 2013, Jay Pipes wrote: I'm proposing that in these cases, a *new* resource would be added to the resource table (and its ID inserted in meter) table with the new flavor/instance's

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Chris Behrens
On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: c) is going ot take a while. There are still quite a few places in nova, for example, that depend on accessing deleted records. Do you have a list of these places? No. I believe Joe Gordon did an initial look

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Proposal: Get rid of deleted column

2013-08-20 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: For #1 and #2, really this sounds like another thing doing this along with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] import task update

2013-08-20 Thread Brian Rosmaita
Joshua, thanks for reaching out. The informal consensus was that taskflow was overkill for what we're doing in some ways, and maybe not mature enough in others. But maybe we should reconsider (especially if you're willing to help out!). If any Glance people aren't familiar with the current

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] import task update

2013-08-20 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thx Brian, Sounds good. I will do my best to show-up. From looking at the commit @ https://github.com/flwang/glance/commit/f1c0a94fb7b1a829bfe1828c61abb8b2bd2 fb917#L4R265 there does seem to be quite a bit of similarity (which isn't a bad thing, means we are just thinking on the same lines).

[openstack-dev] [keystone] PEP8 public and internal interfaces for keystoneclient

2013-08-20 Thread Brant Knudson
We've been too lax about delineating public and internal interfaces in python-keystoneclient. This makes changes and reviews difficult because we don't know what we can change without breaking applications. For example, we thought we could rename a part, but then it broke somebody (Horizon?)[0].

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] PEP8 public and internal interfaces for keystoneclient

2013-08-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/20/2013 09:26 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: We've been too lax about delineating public and internal interfaces in python-keystoneclient. This makes changes and reviews difficult because we don't know what we can change without breaking applications. For example, we thought we could

Re: [openstack-dev] proposing Alex Gaynor for core on openstack/requirements

2013-08-20 Thread Gareth
I like this guy; his review is really helpful for my swift patch set. Thanks again, Alex. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone, I look forward to continuing to help out! Alex On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Doug Hellmann

[openstack-dev] oauth and keystone

2013-08-20 Thread Yongsheng Gong
Hi, I have seen the code about oauth in the keystone but I cannot find the document about how to setup keystone and other openstack services to enable oauth. Can anyone tell me how to setup an env like this? Thanks Yong Sheng Gong ___ OpenStack-dev

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Community Training project needs you

2013-08-20 Thread Sean Roberts
We need your help! This is a community driven project to provide the user group community access to OpenStack training materials. We cannot make this work without your help. We are looking for individuals willing to commit to contributing a page at a time. All the details are here

[openstack-dev] Large Ephemeral Disk Restrictions

2013-08-20 Thread Aditi Raveesh
Hi, Currently in openstack, the ephemeral disk is not migrated on resize. This has the potential for data loss. We can change the migrations to include the ephemeral disks by default. We can have a restriction on migrating large instances by the total disk size (root+ephemeral). We can also