Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] keystone doesn't restart after ./unstack

2014-11-05 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi Chmouel, I'll create it in case it is a real bug. Thank you Angelo On 05/11/2014 05:35, JunJie Nan wrote: I think it's a bug, rejion should work after unstack. And stack.sh is need after clean.sh instead of unstack.sh. Hi, If you do ./unstack.sh you probably want to do ./stack.sh back

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]why FIP is integrated into router not as a separated service like XxxaaS?

2014-11-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
I don't think I know the precise answer to your question. My best guess is that floating ips were one of the initial core L3 features implemented before other advanced services existed. Implementing them in this way may have been the path of least resistance at the time. Are you suggesting a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]why FIP is integrated into router not as a separated service like XxxaaS?

2014-11-05 Thread Akilesh K
@Germy Lure, I cannot give you a direct answer as I am not a developer. But let me point out that openstack can make use of many agents for l3 and above and not just neutron-l3-agent. You may even create your own agent. The 'neutron-l3-agent' works that way just to keep things simple. One point

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Germy Lure
Hi Salvatore, A startup flag is really a simpler approach. But in what situation we should set this flag to remove all flows? upgrade? restart manually? internal fault? Indeed, only at the time that there are inconsistent(incorrect, unwanted, stable and so on) flows between agent and the ovs

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] keystone doesn't restart after ./unstack

2014-11-05 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi Dean, I think that a lot of developers use devstack installed on a VM. So the right WoW after perfroming ./unstack.sh is : 1)If you don't want that stack.sh overwrite your local configuration set RECLONE=no in local.conf 2)perform ./stack.sh 3)perform ./rejoin-stack.sh Right? Thank you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-11-05 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Jorge, I am still not convinced that we need to use logging for usage metrics. We can also use the haproxy stats interface (which the haproxy team is willing to improve based on our input) and/or iptables as Stephen suggested. That said this probably needs more exploration. From an HP

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Erik Moe
Hi, I also agree, IMHO we need flow synchronization method so we can avoid network downtime and stray flows. Regards, Erik From: Germy Lure [mailto:germy.l...@gmail.com] Sent: den 5 november 2014 10:46 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] rescheduling meeting

2014-11-05 Thread Brandon Logan
Any but the 1400 utc On Nov 4, 2014 8:48 AM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote: Hi LBaaS (and others), We’ve been talking about possibly re-schedulng the LBaaS meeting to a time to is less crazy early for those in the US. Alternately, we could also start alternating times. For now,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Policy][Group-based Policy] Audio stream for GBP Design Session in Paris

2014-11-05 Thread Gregory Lebovitz
Mandeep, thanks a ton for setting it up. I just didn't see the email before I went to sleep, so I didn't bother to get up for the session. Now I wish I had! To affirm the attempt, Yi Sun opened up a google hangout for me today in the split meeting. Even as crappy as the audio was from the mic on

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] rescheduling meeting

2014-11-05 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi, I like 16.00 UTC. German On Nov 3, 2014 11:42 PM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote: Hi LBaaS (and others), We’ve been talking about possibly re-schedulng the LBaaS meeting to a time to is less crazy early for those in the US. Alternately, we could also start alternating times.

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Improving dhcp agent scheduling interface

2014-11-05 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, I'd like to raise a discussion kept in irc and in gerrit recently: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131944/ The intention of the patch is to clean up particular scheduling method/interface: schedule_network. Let me clarify why I think it needs to be done (beside code api consistency

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I have no opposition to that, and I will be happy to assist reviewing the code that will enable flow synchronisation (or to say it in an easier way, punctual removal of flows unknown to the l2 agent). In the meanwhile, I hope you won't mind if we go ahead and start making flow reset optional -

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] rescheduling meeting

2014-11-05 Thread Gregory Lebovitz
I'm just a lurker, so pls don't optimize for me. FWIW, here's my reply, in order of pref: wed 1600 UTC wed 1800 UTC wed 1700 UTC On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote: Hi LBaaS (and others), We’ve been talking about possibly re-schedulng the LBaaS meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] questions on object/db usage

2014-11-05 Thread Daniele Casini
Hi All: I replaced all*/db.instance_get_all_by_host()/*in nova and tested it using *tox*. Might it be useful? If so, Which is the better way to propose it to OpenStack community? Best regards, Daniele On 10/23/2014 09:01 PM, Dan Smith wrote: When I fix some bugs, I found that

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Gariganti, Sudhakar Babu
I guess this blueprint[1] attempted to implement the flow synchronization issue during the agent restart. But I see no progress/updates. It would be helpful to know about the progress there. [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-agent-soft-restart On a different note, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] questions on object/db usage

2014-11-05 Thread Chen CH Ji
I also working on it and I am glad you can help this ,see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130744/ for some info though it's still ongoing if you want to know general rule ,I guess https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute can be a good place to refer Best Regards! Kevin (Chen) Ji 纪 晨

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] unable to collect compute.node.cpu.* data

2014-11-05 Thread Hang H Liu
Same steps I can get below results. You may need debug into get_meters() in ceilometer/storage/impl_sqlalchemy.py to see if some filters are taking effect. localadmin@ostest2:~/devstack$ ceilometer meter-list

[openstack-dev] [Heat] New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-05 Thread Lee, Alexis
I'm considering adding a function which takes a list and returns the first non-null, non-empty value in that list. So you could do EG: some_thing: config: ControlVIP: first_nonnull: - {get_param: ControlVIP} - {get_attr:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][context] oslo.context repository review request

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Martinelli
FWIW, this looks good to me - looking forward to using it in keystonemiddleware Steve From: Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 11/05/2014 09:46 AM Subject:[openstack-dev] [oslo][context] oslo.context repository review request

[openstack-dev] [Barbican] Nominating Steve Heyman for barbican-core

2014-11-05 Thread Chad Lung
Greetings , I would like to nominate Steve Heyman for the barbican-core team. Steve is very active in Barbican code reviews and has been a regular contributor of test related change requests as well as documentation. As a reminder to barbican-core members, we use the voting process outlined in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Improving dhcp agent scheduling interface

2014-11-05 Thread Armando M.
Hi Eugene thanks for bringing this up for discussion. My comments inline. Thanks, Armando On 5 November 2014 12:07, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to raise a discussion kept in irc and in gerrit recently: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131944/ The

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican] Nominating Steve Heyman for barbican-core

2014-11-05 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
+1 Douglas Mendizábal IRC: redrobot PGP Key: 245C 7B6F 70E9 D8F3 F5D5 0CC9 AD14 1F30 2D58 923C From: Chad Lung chad.l...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 at

[openstack-dev] [Barbican] Nominating Juan Antonio Osorio Robles for barbican-core

2014-11-05 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
Hi All, I would like to nominate Juan Antonio Osorio Robles to the barbican-core team. Juan has been consistently giving us very well thought out and constructive reviews for Barbican, python-barbicanclient and barbican-specs. It’s obvious from his reviews that he cares deeply for the quality

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][context] oslo.context repository review request

2014-11-05 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Nov 05 2014, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Sorry I missed the session (had a talk at that time). At the Design Summit session for Oslo Library Graduation for Kilo, we decided that oslo.context was a high priority item since oslo.log was blocked. So here's a git repo [2], please take a look

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][context] oslo.context repository review request

2014-11-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
jd__, No issues. I followed the process in the wiki for creating a library with minimal changes required to get the test running as documented. we can do some of these in the openstack git when the project gets created. Please see notes from Doug on the etherpad on why leaving it in oslo.log or

[openstack-dev] [Policy][Group-based-policy] GBP Juno/Kilo next steps meeting

2014-11-05 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi, We had a productive design session discussion on Tuesday. However, we could not get to the point where we discussed all the next steps and specific action items for Juno/Kilo GBP releases. We will be meeting tomorrow (Thursday) morning from in the Le Meridian to cover these. Time: 10 to 11

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican] Nominating Juan Antonio Osorio Robles for barbican-core

2014-11-05 Thread Jarret Raim
+1 for me. From: Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.commailto:douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 at 4:53 PM To: OpenStack List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Barbican] Nominating Steve Heyman for barbican-core

2014-11-05 Thread Jarret Raim
+1 for me as well. From: Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.commailto:douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 at 4:29 PM To: OpenStack List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Power management in Cobbler

2014-11-05 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
I am +1 for using cobbler as power management before we merge Ironic-based stuff. It is essential part also for our HA and stop provisioning/deployment mechanism. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Dmitriy Shulyak dshul...@mirantis.com wrote: Not long time ago we discussed necessity of power

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-05 Thread Anton Zemlyanov
Monitoring of the Fuel master's disk space is the special case. I really wonder why Fuel master have no HA option, disk overflow can be predicted but many other failures cannot. HA is a solution of the 'single point of failure' problem. The current monitoring recommendations (

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Improving dhcp agent scheduling interface

2014-11-05 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
My comments inline: I would argue that it isn't, actually. You may need to know the state of the network to make that placement decision. Yes, I could agree with that - and that's just a particular scheduling implementation, not a requirement for the interface. Just passing the id may

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-05 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hello, As far as I can tell, disk space monitoring is pretty useless, unless Fuel provides user with some means to automatically cleanup of stored data (i.e. remove obsolete diagnostic snapshots, etc). Otherwise, it will be only useful for experienced Fuel developers who know how to properly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-05 Thread Fox, Kevin M
That would be very useful. It would eliminate a few more places where I've needed the aws if function. It would be good to keep the get_ prefix for consistency. Id vote for seperate function. Its cleaner. Thanks, Kevin From: Lee, Alexis Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Erik Moe
Ok, I don’t mind starting with the simplistic approach. Regards, Erik From: Gariganti, Sudhakar Babu [mailto:sudhakar-babu.gariga...@hp.com] Sent: den 5 november 2014 12:14 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-11-05 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Thanks German, It looks like the conversation is going towards using the HAProxy stats interface and/or iptables. I just wanted to explore logging a bit. That said, can you and Stephen share your thoughts on how we might implement that approach? I'd like to get a spec out soon because I

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-11-05 Thread Armando M.
I would be open to making this toggle switch available, however I feel that doing it via static configuration can introduce unnecessary burden to the operator. Perhaps we could explore a way where the agent can figure which state it's supposed to be in based on its reported status? Armando On 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-05 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
Even one additional hardware node required to host the Fuel master is seen by many users as excessive. Unless you can come up with an architecture that adds HA capability to Fuel without increasing its hardware footprint by 2 more nodes, it's just not worth it. The only operational aspect of the

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv]

2014-11-05 Thread Tidwell, Ryan
Keshava, This sounds like you're asking how you might do service function chaining with Neutron. Is that a fair way to characterize your thoughts? I think the concept of service chain provisioning in Neutron is worth some discussion, keeping in mind Neutron is not a fabric controller. -Ryan

[openstack-dev] OVF/OVA support

2014-11-05 Thread Bhandaru, Malini K
Please join us on Friday in the Glance track - free format session, to discuss supporting OVF/OVA in OpenStack. Poll: 1) How interested are you in this feature? 0 - 10 2) Interested enough to help develop the feature? Artifacts are ready for use. We are considering defining an

[openstack-dev] [python-novaclient] When do you use human_id ?

2014-11-05 Thread 熊谷育朗
Hi,All I have a simple question. Acording to the commit comment(*1),human_id is human-friendly ID. And that is a slugified form of the model. slugified means like url slugfy. It replace the space between the string to hyphen and remove non charactor string. For example, a b c is replaced to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-05 Thread Steve Baker
We have a template usability session at 9am this morning, and we'll be covering these sort of utility functions as part of that session. If you don't make it we can follow up later. On 05/11/14 15:46, Lee, Alexis wrote: I’m considering adding a function which takes a list and returns the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] rescheduling meeting

2014-11-05 Thread Samuel Bercovici
For us in Israel, the earlier the better. The current meeting time is very good for us, although I understand it too early for some. -Sam. From: Gregory Lebovitz [mailto:gregory.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:10 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Lee, Alexis's message of 2014-11-05 15:46:43 +0100: I'm considering adding a function which takes a list and returns the first non-null, non-empty value in that list. So you could do EG: some_thing: config: ControlVIP: first_nonnull:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-05 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
I think we're missing the point here. What I meant adding a simple monitoring system that informed the user via UI/CLI/email/whatever of low resources on fuel master node. That's it. HA here is not an option -- if, despite of warnings, the user still continues to use fuel and disk becomes