Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Josh, We can generate options, if folks who need/want it are not here to do the necessary work, not much we can do :( -- dims On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 22/06/15 12:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 22/06/15 12:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-06-22 11:26:54 -0700: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers, You can't deprecate a driver without providing a viable alternative.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 22/06/15 12:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-06-22 11:26:54 -0700: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers, You can't deprecate a driver without providing a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 23/06/15 08:30 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 22/06/15 12:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-06-22 11:26:54 -0700: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 23/06/15 08:30 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 22/06/15 12:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-06-22 11:26:54 -0700: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-23 Thread Joshua Harlow
Davanum Srinivas wrote: Josh, We can generate options, if folks who need/want it are not here to do the necessary work, not much we can do :( True dat, u are very wise :-) -- dims On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Joshua Harlowharlo...@outlook.com wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-22 Thread Ken Giusti
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:27 PM Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers, You can't deprecate a driver without providing a viable alternative. Right now, QPID is the only driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Young
On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers, You can't deprecate a driver without providing a viable alternative. Right now, QPID is the only driver that supports Kerberos. TO support Kerberos, tyou need support for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-06-22 11:26:54 -0700: On 06/20/2015 10:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: As promissed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193804/ Cheers, You can't deprecate a driver without providing a viable alternative. Right now, QPID is the only driver that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/06/15 15:01 +, Ken Giusti wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/06/15 13:43 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-06-18 23:14:49 -0700: [snip] I'd like to clarify something about the AMQP 1.0 driver. It's not a direct replacement for the qpidd one because it uses an entirely different protocol that recently became a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/06/15 15:01 +, Ken Giusti wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-06-19 08:01:46 -0700: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-06-18 23:14:49 -0700: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Ken Giusti
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-06-19 08:01:46 -0700: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-06-18 23:14:49 -0700: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to make it clear where we're going with messaging drivers now that the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Gordon Sim
On 06/19/2015 07:14 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: The qpid family is a set of tools that provide messaging capabilities. Among those you find qpidd (broker daemon), qpid-proton (amqp1.0 library), qpid-dispatch (message router). It's confusing indeed. Apache Qpid is an Apache Software Foundation

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Ken Giusti
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to make it clear where we're going with messaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2015-06-19 08:14:49 +0200: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ken Giusti's message of 2015-06-19 15:01:46 +: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/06/15 16:37 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of

[openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to make it clear where we're going with messaging drivers now that the policy [1] was approved. According to the policy, drivers need to have at least 60% unit test coverage, and an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [qpid] [zmq] [RabbitMQ] [oslo] Pending deprecation of driver(s).

2015-06-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-18 12:47:21 -0700: Hello! I know there's been a lot of churn and misunderstanding over the recent devstack changes, so I wanted to make it clear where we're going with messaging drivers now that the policy [1] was approved. According to the