Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 03/02/15 14:12, Clint Byrum wrote: The visible change in making things parallel was minimal. In talking about convergence, it's become clear that users can and should expect something radically different when they issue stack updates. I'd love to say that it can be done to just bind

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-02-06 06:25:57 -0800: On 03/02/15 14:12, Clint Byrum wrote: The visible change in making things parallel was minimal. In talking about convergence, it's become clear that users can and should expect something radically different when they issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Sergey Kraynev
I really like some benefits of this approach: - easy use in functional tests (did not require additional job) - every user can try from this moment - we can use both code ways in the same time without service restarting So I really close to give my +1, if someone give answers on questions from

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2015-02-03 02:40:44 -0800: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Zane Bitter
On 02/02/15 19:52, Steve Baker wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some context you should read the spec first [1] Rather than doing this, I would like to propose the following: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-02-03 10:00:44 -0800: On 02/02/15 19:52, Steve Baker wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some context you should read the spec first

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some context you should read the spec first [1] Rather than doing this, I would

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Pavlo Shchelokovskyy
+1, that would ease the development and also drive adoption IMO, as people could start using/experimenting with it earlier, and more eyes == less bugs. You can never predict all the ways how users would use and abuse your new shiny feature :) Best regards, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy Software Engineer

[openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-02 Thread Steve Baker
A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some context you should read the spec first [1] Rather than doing this, I would like to propose the following: * Users can (optionally) choose which

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-02 Thread Robert Collins
I think incremental adoption is a great principle to have and this will enable that. So +1 -Rob On 3 February 2015 at 13:52, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack