Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

I have been a fan of this from the very beginning of the project as well. I think oslo is the obvious correct place for a library that should define core interfaces for use by many openstack projects. Also, whether you have seen it or not, I have *definitely* seen real instances where people

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On 16/03/17 12:43 -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 from me to bring castellan under Oslo governance with folks from both oslo and Barbican as reviewers without a project rename. Let's see if that helps get more adoption of castellan This sounds like a great path forward! +1 Flavio Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Dave McCowan (dmccowan) wrote: > +1 from me. That looks easy to implement and maintain. > > On 3/20/17, 2:49 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: > >>Dave, >> >>Here's the precendent from oslo.policy:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

+1 from me. That looks easy to implement and maintain. On 3/20/17, 2:49 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: >Dave, > >Here's the precendent from oslo.policy: >https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/556,members > >The reason for setting it up this way with individuals + oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Dave, Here's the precendent from oslo.policy: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/556,members The reason for setting it up this way with individuals + oslo core + keystone core is to make sure both core teams are involved in the review process and any future contributors who are not part

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

This sounds good to me. I see it as a "promotion" for Castellan into the core of OpenStack. I think a good first step in this direction is to create a castellan-drivers team in Launchpad and a castellan-core team in Gerrit. We can seed the list with Barbican core reviewers and any Oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

I'd be fine with it also, not sure it will change much, but meh, worth a shot. We are all happy loving people after all, so might as well try to help others when we can :-P -Josh Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 from me to bring castellan under Oslo governance with folks from both oslo and

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

+1 from me to bring castellan under Oslo governance with folks from both oslo and Barbican as reviewers without a project rename. Let's see if that helps get more adoption of castellan Thanks, Dims On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Farr, Kaitlin M. wrote: > This thread

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

​​This thread has generated quite the discussion, so I will try to address a few points in this email, echoing a lot of what Dave said. Clint originally explained what we are trying to solve very well. The hope was that the rename would emphasize that Castellan is just a basic interface that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Brant Knudson's message of 2017-03-15 10:27:49 -0500: >> Can the Castellan team be broken out into a new project under the big tent >> rather than having to go under oslo? Oslo as a catch-all made more sense >> before the big tent. Also, I always thought part

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On 3/15/17, 6:51 AM, "Julien Danjou" wrote: >On Mon, Mar 13 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> To me, Oslo is a bunch of libraries that encompass "the way OpenStack >> does ". When is key management, projects are, AFAICT, >>universally >> using Castellan at the moment.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Julien Danjou wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > >> +1 for just pulling it under the oslo umbrella but not renaming it. As > >> much as I like the uniformity oslo.keymanager would bring, I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Mon, Mar 13 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: > To me, Oslo is a bunch of libraries that encompass "the way OpenStack > does ". When is key management, projects are, AFAICT, universally > using Castellan at the moment. So I think it fits in Oslo > conceptually. It would be cool if it could

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Wed, Mar 15 2017, Thierry Carrez wrote: > It's a governance problem. Basically if the abstraction layer is under > the control of the same group as one of the drivers, it's not really an > abstraction layer, and nobody will adopt it or develop another driver > for it. So we hope that by

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Julien Danjou wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> +1 for just pulling it under the oslo umbrella but not renaming it. As >> much as I like the uniformity oslo.keymanager would bring, I think it's >> already adopted well enough we just want to make it clear that it is >> blessed

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: > +1 for just pulling it under the oslo umbrella but not renaming it. As > much as I like the uniformity oslo.keymanager would bring, I think it's > already adopted well enough we just want to make it clear that it is > blessed and ok to adopt. I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-14 20:05:54 -0400: >> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-14 19:20:08 -0400: >> > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-03-13 13:49:22 -0700: >> > > Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-14 20:05:54 -0400: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-14 19:20:08 -0400: > > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-03-13 13:49:22 -0700: > > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-13 15:12:42 -0400: > > > > Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-14 19:20:08 -0400: > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-03-13 13:49:22 -0700: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-13 15:12:42 -0400: > > > Excerpts from Farr, Kaitlin M.'s message of 2017-03-13 18:55:18 +: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-13 15:12:42 -0400: >> Excerpts from Farr, Kaitlin M.'s message of 2017-03-13 18:55:18 +: >>> When the Barbican team first created the Castellan library, we had >>> reached out to oslo to see if we could name it

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-03-13 15:12:42 -0400: > Excerpts from Farr, Kaitlin M.'s message of 2017-03-13 18:55:18 +: > > Proposed library name: Rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager > > > > Proposed library mission/motivation: Castellan's goal is to provide a > > generic key

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Kaitlin, On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Farr, Kaitlin M. wrote: > Proposed library name: Rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager > > > > Proposed library mission/motivation: Castellan’s goal is to provide a > > generic key manager interface that projects can use for their

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Excerpts from Farr, Kaitlin M.'s message of 2017-03-13 18:55:18 +: > Proposed library name: Rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager > > Proposed library mission/motivation: Castellan's goal is to provide a > generic key manager interface that projects can use for their key > manager needs, e.g.,

[openstack-dev] [oslo][barbican][castellan] Proposal to rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager

Proposed library name: Rename Castellan to oslo.keymanager Proposed library mission/motivation: Castellan's goal is to provide a generic key manager interface that projects can use for their key manager needs, e.g., storing certificates or generating keys for encrypting data. The interface