Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/19/2013 12:10 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: snip I reviewed the TC meeting notes, and my question still stands. It seems the committee is touching on the point of there being a worry because if

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-19 04:14:51 -0800: On 12/19/2013 12:10 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: snip I reviewed the TC meeting notes, and my question still stands. It seems the

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-19 Thread Mike Perez
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/19/2013 12:10 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: snip I reviewed the TC meeting notes, and my question still stands. It seems the

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-19 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: On December 12, 2013 at 14:32:36, Dolph Mathews (dolph.math...@gmail.com//dolph.math...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Jarret Raim

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Barbican, key manager is essential to openstack, paves the way to greater security. Instead of rejecting the project because of its current existence owed so heavily to Rackspace and to John Wood, why not we adopt it, code review, contribute code etc. We can have

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Dake
On 12/13/2013 03:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: $ git shortlog -s -e | sort -n -r 172 John Wood john.w...@rackspace.com 150 jfwood john.w...@rackspace.com 65 Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com 39 Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.com

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Jarret Raim
-Original Message- From: Steven Dake [mailto:sd...@redhat.com] In this particular case, I believe Barbican is not ready for incubation because of their dependence on celery, but ultimately I don't make the decision :) We've landed the PR that removes celery and replaces it with

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/18/2013 10:23 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: -Original Message- From: Steven Dake [mailto:sd...@redhat.com] In this particular case, I believe Barbican is not ready for incubation because of their dependence on celery, but ultimately I don't make the decision :) We've landed the PR

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Mike Perez
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.comwrote: On 12/13/13, 4:50 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: If you remove Jenkins and attach Paul Kehrer, jqxin2006 (Michael Xin),

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Jarret Raim
On 12/13/13, 7:56 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Are each of the items you mention big enough to have a sustainable team that can exist as its own program? The answer here for Barbican and Keystone is yes. 2) Would there be a benefit of *changing* the scope and mission of the

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Jarret Raim
On 12/13/13, 4:50 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: If you remove Jenkins and attach Paul Kehrer, jqxin2006 (Michael Xin), Arash Ghoreyshi, Chad Lung and Steven Gonzales to Rackspace, then the picture is: 67% of commits come from a single person (John Wood) 96% of commits come

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Mike Perez
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.comwrote: On 12/13/13, 4:50 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: If you remove Jenkins and attach Paul Kehrer, jqxin2006 (Michael Xin), Arash Ghoreyshi, Chad Lung and Steven Gonzales to Rackspace, then the

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Bhandaru, Malini K
...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:36 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican On 12/13/13, 7:56 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Are each of the items you mention big enough

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Bhandaru, Malini K
-Original Message- From: Jarret Raim [mailto:jarret.r...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:44 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican On 12/13/13, 4:50 AM, Thierry Carrez thie

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-17 Thread Craig Tracey
-Original Message- From: Jarret Raim [mailto:jarret.r...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:44 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican On 12/13/13, 4:50 AM, Thierry Carrez thie

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: $ git shortlog -s -e | sort -n -r 172John Wood john.w...@rackspace.com 150jfwood john.w...@rackspace.com 65Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com 39Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.com 17Malini K.

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-12 Thread Bryan D. Payne
$ git shortlog -s -e | sort -n -r 172 John Wood john.w...@rackspace.com 150 jfwood john.w...@rackspace.com 65 Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com 39 Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.com 17 Malini K. Bhandaru malini.k.bhand...@intel.com 10 Paul Kehrer

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-12 Thread Clark, Robert Graham
From: Bryan D. Payne [mailto:bdpa...@acm.org] Sent: 12 December 2013 16:12 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: openstack...@lists.openstack.org; cloudkeep@googlegroups. com; barbi...@lists.rackspace.com Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-12 Thread Adam Young
On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: While I am all for adding a new program, I think we should only add one if we rule out all existing programs as a home. With that in mind why not add this to the keystone program? Perhaps that may require a tweak to keystones mission statement, but

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: While I am all for adding a new program, I think we should only add one if we rule out all existing programs as a home. With that in mind why not add this to the keystone

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-12 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On December 12, 2013 at 14:32:36, Dolph Mathews (dolph.math...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: While I am all for adding a new program, I think we should only add one if we rule out all existing

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-10 Thread Jarret Raim
I'd like to look at keeping things simple when they can be simple. I need to understand why there¹s already a key distribution service under keystone? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/18/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/ma rkdown/identity-api-v3-os-kds-ext.md I¹ve said before that I think

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-04 Thread Jarret Raim
While I am all for adding a new program, I think we should only add one if we rule out all existing programs as a home. With that in mind why not add this to the keystone program? Perhaps that may require a tweak to keystones mission statement, but that is doable. I saw a partial answer

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jarret Raim wrote: The TC is currently working on formalizing requirements for new programs and projects [3]. I figured I would give them a try against this application. First, I'm assuming that the application is for a new program that contains the new project. The application doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-03 Thread Jarret Raim
With the introduction of programs (think: official teams), all incubated/integrated projects must belong to an official program... So when a project applies for incubation but is not part of an official program yet, it de-facto also applies to be considered a program. Ahh, understood. So I guess

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 3, 2013 6:45 PM, Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.com wrote: With the introduction of programs (think: official teams), all incubated/integrated projects must belong to an official program... So when a project applies for incubation but is not part of an official program yet, it

[openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Jarret Raim
All, Barbican is the OpenStack key management service and we’d like to request incubation for the Icehouse release. A Rackspace sponsored team has been working for about 9 months now, including following the Havana release cycle for our first release. Our incubation request is here:

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/02/2013 10:19 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: All, Barbican is the OpenStack key management service and we’d like to request incubation for the Icehouse release. A Rackspace sponsored team has been working for about 9 months now, including following the Havana release cycle for our first

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/02/2013 11:53 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: ** Project must have no library dependencies which effectively restrict how the project may be distributed [1] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/barbican/tree/tools/pip-requires It looks like the only item here not in the global

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Jarret Raim
The TC is currently working on formalizing requirements for new programs and projects [3]. I figured I would give them a try against this application. First, I'm assuming that the application is for a new program that contains the new project. The application doesn't make that bit clear,

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/02/2013 04:12 PM, Jarret Raim wrote: The TC is currently working on formalizing requirements for new programs and projects [3]. I figured I would give them a try against this application. First, I'm assuming that the application is for a new program that contains the new project.

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-02 Thread Jarret Raim
Uses tox, but not pbr or global requirements I added a ŒTasks¹ section for stuff we need to do from this review and I¹ve added these tasks. [4] [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican/Incubation Awesome. Also, if you don't mind - we should add testr to that list. We're looking at