Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee perspective, we put a high weight on a factor that was not included in the report

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/14 12:31 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee perspective, we put a high weight on a

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Thierry Carrez wrote: There was historically a lot of deviation, but as we add more projects that deviation is becoming more costly. I totally understand the benefits of reducing the variance between projects, and to be sure, I am not suggesting we have 10 different libraries to do X. However,

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: There was historically a lot of deviation, but as we add more projects that deviation is becoming more costly. I totally understand the benefits of reducing the variance between

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/03/14 12:31 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/14 11:20 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: My only concern in this case - I'm not sure if this has been discussed or written somewhere - is to define what the boundaries of that divergence are. For instance,

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Mike Perez
On 03/19/2014 08:20 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: As I understand it, all of the integrated projects have looked at Pecan, and are anticipating the transition. Most have no reason to create a new API version, and therefore build a new API service to avoid introducing incompatibilities by rebuilding

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Only one project is using swob, and it is unlikely that will change. That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Is it because there are fundamental needs that are not met by Pecan? If I understand the original charter for Oslo, it was to consolidate code already in use by projects

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Donald Stufft wrote: I’m not sure that “number of dependencies” is a useful metric at all tbh. At the very least it’s not a very telling metric in the way it was presented in the review. […] +1000 Seriously, this in itself just discredits any value in this analysis

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Kurt Griffiths wrote: That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Because that project is Swift. -- Julien Danjou // Free Software hacker // http://julien.danjou.info signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/19/2014 01:47 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 03/19/2014 08:20 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: As I understand it, all of the integrated projects have looked at Pecan, and are anticipating the transition. Most have no reason to create a new API version, and therefore build a new API service to avoid

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks.

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread John Dickinson
On Mar 19, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Kurt Griffiths wrote: That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Because that project is Swift. If you look at the Swift code, you'll see that swob is not a replacement for either

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-18 Thread Kurt Griffiths
@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 at 11:55 AM To: OpenStack Dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi I work for Rackspace and Im fairly new to Openstack Ecosystem