On 9/25/2017 7:24 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
On 09/25/2017 07:56 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Paul Belanger wrote:
This is not a good example of encouraging anybody to contribute to the
project.
Yes. This entire thread was a bit disturbing to read. Yes, I totally
agree that mass
Sean Dague wrote:
I think the concern is the ascribed motive for why people are putting
these up. That's fine to feel that people are stat padding (and that too
many things are driven off metrics). But, honestly, that's only
important if we make it important. Contributor stats are always going
Sean,
Each fix is a valid change, in and of itself. But what kind of lazy person
would fix (in three patches) the exact same thing, in three places in a
single project?
Or which person would submit the exact same kind of patch multiple times to
change URL's from http:// to https:// in places
Sean, I quantified it in 2016 for some of the patches that came in to
Trove; approximately 130 hours of CI time per patch given the number of
hacks that the person took before even getting pep8 to run.
Close to a release boundary, that had very bad results on an already
fragile Trove gate.
On 25/09/17 09:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2017-09-25 08:24:18 -0400:
On 09/25/2017 07:56 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Paul Belanger wrote:
>
>> This is not a good example of encouraging anybody to contribute to the
>> project.
>
> Yes.
On Mon, Sep 25 2017, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> I was trying to ignore the thread in the hopes it would die out quick.
>> But torches and pitchforks all came out from the far corners, so I'm
>> going to push back on that a bit.
>>
>> I'm not super clear why there is always so much outrage about
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2017-09-25 09:42:08 -0400:
> On 09/25/2017 09:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>
> > I'm less concerned with the motivation of someone submitting the
> > patches than I am with their effect. Just like the situation we had
> > with the bug squash days a year or so
On 09/25/2017 09:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> I'm less concerned with the motivation of someone submitting the
> patches than I am with their effect. Just like the situation we had
> with the bug squash days a year or so ago, if we had a poorly timed
> set of these trivial patches coming in at
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2017-09-25 08:24:18 -0400:
> On 09/25/2017 07:56 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Paul Belanger wrote:
> >
> >> This is not a good example of encouraging anybody to contribute to the
> >> project.
> >
> > Yes. This entire thread was a bit
On 09/25/2017 07:56 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Paul Belanger wrote:
>
>> This is not a good example of encouraging anybody to contribute to the
>> project.
>
> Yes. This entire thread was a bit disturbing to read. Yes, I totally
> agree that mass patches that do very little are
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