Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Sylvain, I would go with keeping AZs exclusive. It is a well-established concept even if it is up to providers to implement what it actually means in terms of isolation. Some good use cases have been presented on this topic recently, but for me they suggest we should develop a better

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What is the currently accepted way to do plugins

2014-03-12 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
for blueprints). But now I am referring to another thread [http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029232.html ] Paul. -Original Message- From: Sandy Walsh [mailto:sandy.wa...@rackspace.com] Sent: 04 March 2014 21:25 To: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) Cc

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] RFC - using Gerrit for Nova Blueprint review approval

2014-03-07 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
The principle is excellent, I think there are two points/objectives worth keeping in mind: 1. We need an effective way to make and record the design decisions 2. We should make the whole development process easier In my mind the point of the design review part is to agree up front something

[openstack-dev] [Nova] What is the currently accepted way to do plugins

2014-03-04 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi All, One of my patches has a query asking if I am using the agreed way to load plugins: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71557/ I followed the same approach as filters/weights/metrics using nova.loadables. Was there an agreement to do it a different way? And if so, what is the agreed way

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What is the currently accepted way to do plugins

2014-03-04 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
March 2014 17:50 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What is the currently accepted way to do plugins This brings up something that's been gnawing at me for a while now ... why use entry-point based

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] do nova objects work for plugins?

2014-02-04 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
, but I think I can get on with it. Paul. -Original Message- From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] Sent: 03 February 2014 20:59 To: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services); OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [Nova] do nova objects work for plugins

Re: [openstack-dev] about the bp cpu-entitlement

2014-02-04 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Sahid, This is being done by Oshrit Feder, so I'll let her answer, but I know that it is going to be implemented as an extensible resource (see: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/extensible-resource-tracking) so it is waiting for that to be done. That blueprint is making good

[openstack-dev] [Nova] do nova objects work for plugins?

2014-02-03 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
I was looking through Nova Objects with a view to creating an extensible object that can be used by writers of plugins to include data generated by the plugin (others have also done the same e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65826/ ) On the way I noticed what I think is a bug in Nova

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Scheduler] Will the Scheuler use Nova Objects?

2014-01-30 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi, I have heard a couple of conflicting comments about the scheduler and nova objects that I would like to clear up. In one scheduler/gantt meeting, Gary Kotton offered to convert the scheduler to use Nova objects. In another I heard that with the creation of Gantt, the scheduler would avoid

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

2014-01-27 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Barbara [mailto:jus...@fathomdb.com] Sent: 24 January 2014 21:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) wrote: Multicast is not generally

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] bp proposal: discovery of peer instances through metadata service

2014-01-24 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Justin, It's nice to see someone bringing this kind of thing up. Seeding discovery is a handy primitive to have. Multicast is not generally used over the internet, so the comment about removing multicast is not really justified, and any of the approaches that work there could be used.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] how is resource tracking supposed to work for live migration and evacuation?

2014-01-17 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
To be clear - the changes that Yunhong describes below are not part of the extensible-resource-tracking blueprint. Extensible-resource-tracking has the more modest aim to provide plugins to track additional resource data. Paul. -Original Message- From: Jiang, Yunhong

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
you see these belonging here or would you expect those to go in a sub-class if they were wanted? Paul. -Original Message- From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] Sent: 10 January 2014 16:22 To: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services); Wang, Shane; OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-13 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
happy with your dirty children :) Paul. -Original Message- From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] Sent: 13 January 2014 15:26 To: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services); Wang, Shane; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Lee, Alexis; Tan, Lin Subject: Re: [Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Detect changes in object model

2014-01-10 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
work to allow the changes and to track them there too. Paul. -Original Message- From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] Sent: 10 January 2014 14:42 To: Wang, Shane; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services); Lee, Alexis; Tan

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][database] Update compute_nodes table

2013-12-04 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Abbass, I guess you read the blueprint Russell referred to. I think you actually are saying the same - but please read steps below and tell me if they don't cover what you want. This is what it will do: 1. Add a column to the compute_nodes table for a JSON blob 2. Add plug-in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler][metrics] Additional metrics

2013-11-29 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Abbass, I am in the process of coding some of this now - take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/extensible-resource-tracking - now has a specification document attached https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseNovaExtensibleSchedulerMetrics - the design summit session

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Ceilometer vs. Nova internal metrics collector for scheduling (was: New DB column or new DB table?)

2013-07-19 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Sean, Do you think the existing static allocators should be migrated to going through ceilometer - or do you see that as different? Ignoring backward compatibility. The reason I ask is I want to extend the static allocators to include a couple more. These plugins are the way I would have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Ceilometer vs. Nova internal metrics collector for scheduling

2013-07-19 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
[mailto:s...@dague.net] Sent: 19 July 2013 14:28 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Ceilometer vs. Nova internal metrics collector for scheduling On 07/19/2013 08:30 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: On 07/19/13 at 12:08pm, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) wrote: Hi Sean

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New DB column or new DB table?

2013-07-18 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Hi All, I would like to chip in with something from the side here (sorry to stretch the discussion out). I was looking for a mechanism to do something like this in the context of this blueprint on network aware scheduling:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New DB column or new DB table?

2013-07-18 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
to me. BTW, I'm getting all the other emails - just not this thread! Bemused... Paul On 07/18/2013 10:44 AM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) wrote: Hi All, I would like to chip in with something from the side here (sorry to stretch the discussion out). I was looking for a mechanism to do