Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-05 Thread Rafał Miłecki
Have one question: there is for ex. freetype in my system installed as RPM. Does YaST know where from is this RPM installed (DVD/update/packman/etc.)? -- Rafał Miłecki

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-05 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Rafał Miłecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 05. 2007 13:13]: Have one question: there is for ex. freetype in my system installed as RPM. Does YaST know where from is this RPM installed (DVD/update/packman/etc.)? No, not in openSUSE 10.2 We are working on a solution, though. Klaus

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-05 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:23:20 Rafał Miłecki wrote: Method of managing updates is hard to create but is also hightly needed. Lack of updaing applications from 3rd party repositories may be really dangerous. Don't mix upgrading with updating. Guru and packman just upgrade the packages.

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-05 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/7/5, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:23:20 Rafał Miłecki wrote: Method of managing updates is hard to create but is also hightly needed. Lack of updaing applications from 3rd party repositories may be really dangerous. Don't mix upgrading with

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Adrian Schröter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: Ahhh... oops, right. Mmm... Then, show what is updatable for each repo, perhaps show a list by repo? I would like to avoid user confusing by showing a large numbers of repos

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 04. 2007 02:51]: Klaus Kaempf escribió: * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from? Ie, a selection to

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Gabriel
Klaus Kaempf escribió: * Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 04. 2007 02:51]: Klaus Kaempf escribió: * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from?

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Benji Weber
On 04/07/07, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that smart is capable of manage it. You can have a look at the source to see what is doing. Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer versioned packages regardless of the vendor/repository. _ Benjamin Weber

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Benji Weber escribió: Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer versioned packages regardless of the vendor/repository. Yup, smart is no model of good behaviuor in this case...and better not to talk about the mess it produces in 64 bit systems..;-) signature.asc

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benji Weber schreef: On 04/07/07, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that smart is capable of manage it. You can have a look at the source to see what is doing. Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-07-04 at 10:45 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Adrian Schröter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: Ahhh... oops, right. Mmm... Then, show what is updatable for each

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Rafał Miłecki
2007/7/4, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-07-04 at 10:45 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Adrian Schröter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: Ahhh... oops, right.

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-04 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:23, Rafał Miłecki wrote: 2007/7/4, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyway, I suppose that if the user has activated a dozen repos, he must be prepared for some confussion, but he surely must be interested in knowing what is new from all, sorted somehow.

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-03 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Benji Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 02. 2007 22:51]: There are also other things to be decided, like how to resolve package vendor bouncing where the user has e.g. guru kde-backports repositories subscribed and the updater first updates to one then the other version of amarok, gaining and

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 09:06 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: ... There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from? Ie, a selection to choose aside from

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-03 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 09:06 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: ... There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 13:48 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from? Ie, a selection to choose aside from

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-03 Thread Gabriel
Klaus Kaempf escribió: * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from? Ie, a selection to choose aside from security patches only / all. The

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-02 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Monday 02 July 2007 22:12:01 skrev Rafał Miłecki: Could some developer focus on this bug before publishing 10.3? It wouldn't be nice to remove ZMD and don't give any alternative wayof watching repositories for updates of _any_ kind (not these securityones only). I think Duncan stated the

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: Check for any kind updates option?

2007-07-02 Thread Benji Weber
-On 02/07/07, Rafał Miłecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a well-discused bug on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097 about opensuse-updater. I posted some idea of resolving this, which I find quite fine. You can find this in comment #57: