Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-22 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Andrew! On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:22:00 -0400, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.org wrote: Sorry my ignorance but why caching proxy is better than built-in Firefox cache? Enabling torbutton disables firefox cache. I didn't test non-tor firefox caching. Thinking about this some more,

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-21 Thread Watson Ladd
bao song wrote: I looked at Andrew's statistics. With Polipo, if one keeps re-loading the same page over and over, it takes a bit longer the first time, but then all subsequent loads are retrieved from cache, so there's no download time. Effectively (rounding the tiny number of milliseconds

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 08/21/2009 03:54 AM, bao song wrote: What page would I wish to look at over and over but not download? Lots of people leave the same page up in a tab in their browser for very long times, like baidu, gmail, facebook, bbc.co.uk, cnn,com, meebo, etc. And if I don't want the page on my hard

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 08/21/2009 03:29 PM, Alexander Cherepanov wrote: Hi Andrew! On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:49:28 -0400, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.org wrote: My testing shows that a caching proxy helps speed up the user experience with Tor. Sorry my ignorance but why caching proxy is better than

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 08/21/2009 03:31 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: Sorry my ignorance but why caching proxy is better than built-in Firefox cache? Enabling torbutton disables firefox cache. I didn't test non-tor firefox caching. Thinking about this some more, torbutton doesn't disable Firefox memory caching.

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 08/21/2009 02:06 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: Well, I suppose torbutton doesn't count as a proxy, but wouldn't it fail the test you propose above? Granted, torbutton filters at a content level rather than at a URL/host+domainname level, whereas privoxy is active on both levels, but

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 08/20/2009 12:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: Hmmm...I'm not too sure that I should be blamed for this, but nevertheless... Not blaming you, just honoring you as the instigator. ;) To get back to your question of why we need a proxy between a browser and tor, though, I would like to

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-19 Thread Karsten N.
Andrew Lewman schrieb: I tested a few scenarios: The access to hidden service is important too (in my opinion). I have good experience using privoxy with: forwarded-connect-retries 3 Access to hidden services with socks5 in Firefox gives sometimes a timeout first. After 1-2 retries, the page

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-19 Thread Scott Bennett
Hmmm...I'm not too sure that I should be blamed for this, but nevertheless... On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:26:44 -0400 Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.org wrote: A while ago there was a thread that devolved into why does Tor still ship ancient privoxy? and why are you shipping polipo with the

Scott made me do it.

2009-08-18 Thread Andrew Lewman
A while ago there was a thread that devolved into why does Tor still ship ancient privoxy? and why are you shipping polipo with the Tor Browser Bundle instead of current privoxy? For those interested, the thread is here, http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Jul-2009/msg00063.html. Scott had a good

Re: Scott made me do it.

2009-08-18 Thread Wesley Kenzie
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.orgwrote: [snip] The summary of results: 1) Native polipo is 54.5% faster on average than native privoxy. This could be due to polipo's caching, http 1.1 pipelining, and it can serve bits as fast as they come in from the