- Original Message
From: Sebastian Lechte s...@stian.lechte.net
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 8:23:13 AM
Subject: Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
Hi everyone,
Please do not give money to node operators. This will complicate matters
- Original Message
From: Matthew McCabe mate...@mrmccabe.com
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
I take issue with the premise that the only course of action that ISPs have
is
to disconnect
Hi!
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
Please go read the tor man page again. Specifically, you should reread
the material on the ExitPolicy statement in the torrc file. The proper way
to prevent exits on port 80 is to use an ExitPolicy that rejects port
On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:03:52 Mitar wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote:
Although Im big Tor fan, I think it is better idea to run Tor in unused
bandwith (like me) on plenty of computers rather than pay together few big
centralized servers (like
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:14:29 -0500 Praedor Atrebates prae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:03:52 Mitar wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote:
Although Im big Tor fan, I think it is better idea to run Tor in unused
bandwith (like me) on
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 04:14:29PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
On Thursday 05 February 2009 16:03:52 Mitar wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote:
Although Im big Tor fan, I think it is better idea to run Tor in unused
bandwith (like me) on plenty
I agree that starting a business may be problematic but I am not sure
this would be true for a non-profit in the US.
Does anyone know if US non-profits are required to log connection
information? I help several businesses (including a large company) and
non-profits maintain their websites,
I take issue with the premise that the only course of action that ISPs
have is to disconnect customers that generate these complaints. I know
that some ISPs simply pass on the complaints to their customers with the
expectation that the customer fix the problem. It seems to me that this
is
I agree that it may be a risk for one organization to own a large number
of Tor nodes. But if that organization is a non-profit and run by some
of the Tor users, developers, and operators on this list, that should
reduce the risk that the organization will willingly compromise its Tor
Hi Mitar,
firstly, my linode server is hosting for my small sites, NOT for Tor
service. But because I use only about 30-40 GB per month for my sites, I
decided to give rest to Tor network. So your calculation is faulty - I pay
nothing to give 360 GB per month for Tor ;)
Although Im big Tor fan,
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Matthew McCabe mate...@mrmccabe.com wrote:
Also, you could setup an independent auditing system in which Tor experts
could examine the Tor boxes or VPSs to be sure that they are not
compromised.
But then ... who will watch the watchers?
Mitar
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote:
Although Im big Tor fan, I think it is better idea to run Tor in unused
bandwith (like me) on plenty of computers rather than pay together few big
centralized servers (like you offer). Firstly, using unused bandwidth is for
free.
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 22:03 +0100, Mitar wrote:
But on the other hand I am seeing many e-mails like I would like to
contribute to Tor but my ISP/university/mom does not allow me/has
blocked me/does not want to hassle. So maybe those could cooperate in
a way of putting together such nodes.
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote:
TorProject has a paypal donations account that people (like those people
who cannot run a node, but wish to contribute) can send donations to.
Those donations, in turn, are requested by node operators who run
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 00:29 +0100, Mitar wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote:
TorProject has a paypal donations account that people (like those people
who cannot run a node, but wish to contribute) can send donations to.
Those donations, in turn,
Hi!
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote:
Why put one node online when you could put hundreds online, by creating
enough incentive to balance the potential risk of ISP complaints?
I do not see those two ideas excluding each other. :-)
So yes, such field in metadata
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 02:07 +0100, Mitar wrote:
Hi!
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote:
Why put one node online when you could put hundreds online, by creating
enough incentive to balance the potential risk of ISP complaints?
I do not see those two ideas
Hi everyone,
Please do not give money to node operators. This will complicate matters
and bring in the wrong people. I support sharing costs for a node in a
small group of people, but don't make it a way to receive money from
anyone - there will be people who abuse it.
It might also have legal
Yup, I restricted my exit node policy in hopes that it would limit
torrent traffic and it seemed to work. However, the last hacking
complaint was the result of someone making excessive or inappropriate
postings on a newsgroup or website. So while the torrent/DMCA
complaints stopped, the
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:23:50AM -0600, Matthew McCabe wrote:
Yup, I restricted my exit node policy in hopes that it would limit
torrent traffic and it seemed to work. However, the last hacking
complaint was the result of someone making excessive or inappropriate
postings on a newsgroup
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 10:23:50 Matthew McCabe wrote:
Yup, I restricted my exit node policy in hopes that it would limit
torrent traffic and it seemed to work. However, the last hacking
complaint was the result of someone making excessive or inappropriate
postings on a newsgroup or
Hi!
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:50 PM, slush sl...@slush.cz wrote:
Yes, Im using linode.com, plan Linode 720. Tor runs without any problem
(but my bandwidth is only about 150kB/s; there are another network services
too).
Interesting. That is $40/month with 400 GB limit. I have a collocation
for
Scott Bennett wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:42:01 -0600 Matthew McCabe mate...@mrmccabe.com
wrote:
So Time Warner Cable finally gave me an ultimatum that either I stop
running Tor or they will shut off my service. This was after 3 DMCA and
2 general abuse/hacking complaints. Note
Wow, that is a very cool idea. This could even be turned into a
non-profit organization... We could take donations to support running
Tor exit nodes which, in turn, supports everyone's ability to use the
Internet without fear of censorship, harassment, and authoritarian (or
up-and-coming
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 03:37:05PM -0500, tor-opera...@sky-haven.net wrote:
Incidentally, I work at a (different) hosting provider. We aren't
particularly interested in being defenders of people's rights. If
someone cost us money or time in proportions we find to be excessive, we
assert the
Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 03:37:05PM -0500, tor-opera...@sky-haven.net wrote:
Incidentally, I work at a (different) hosting provider. We aren't
particularly interested in being defenders of people's rights. If
someone cost us money or time in proportions we find to be
Hi!
You raise important questions: how many tor relays currently listed
in the directory are running on hardware owned by the same entity? And
how many of those are on hardware physically located at the same site?
And if they are using virtual servers within the same ISP...
Is it possible
It's a risk regarding a large number of nodes being run by a single
entity. The upside to such a business model though would be if they
donated a percentage of profits to the Tor foundation. If they get
pummeled by CD letters and eventually shut down, at least TOR can keep
the money for future
I sent TWC a modified version of the EFF DMCA response letter for the
DMCA takedown notices. I even personally replied to one of the DMCAs
from an agent for Paramount. I was only able to personally reply to one
of the complaints as TWC would not forward me any of the other notices.
The
Zitat von Xinwen Fu xinwe...@gmail.com:
The problem is: was the violation done through Tor? A bot may do the same
thing. Time to scan your computer?:) Maybe you can run Tor as an entry or a
middle node, not an exit node.
Cheers,
Xinwen Fu
Yes, and one pertty nice day we have 1
As of writing, 561 of 1250 (44.88%) active routers are flagged as exit. That
is by number of routers, not by bandwidth, but the point stands regardless.
Exits are absolutely important, and in an ideal world everything would be
exit, but entry/middle nodes are still extremely useful.
- John
Yes, Im using linode.com, plan Linode 720. Tor runs without any problem
(but my bandwidth is only about 150kB/s; there are another network services
too).
I received two DMCAs (some torrent sharing). Linode stuff was very polite,
but they said me they have to solve this. Because server is very
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:17:47 +0100 Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:44:18PM +0100, Thomas Hluchnik wrote:
Zitat von Xinwen Fu xinwe...@gmail.com:
The problem is: was the violation done through Tor? A bot may do the same
thing. Time to scan your computer?:)
Two very important factors to keep in mind for a tor node on a VPS are
memory and FD limits. A lot of VPS software will limit the number of sockets
available to each guest, which is usually a limit tor will run into quickly.
I run my 300 KB/s node with a limit of 8192 sockets, and it usually has
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:42:01 -0600 Matthew McCabe mate...@mrmccabe.com
wrote:
So Time Warner Cable finally gave me an ultimatum that either I stop
running Tor or they will shut off my service. This was after 3 DMCA and
2 general abuse/hacking complaints. Note that Time Warner does not say
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