is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread M. Peterson
Hi want to know, if tor is as well an email mixmaster, e.g. we have an email client, which is sending only pgp encrypted emails, then the ISP is excluded as he cannot read, but data retention laws allow to log the IP from where the email is sent and the email server knows the last exit point of

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
Hi, No not yet to my knowledge. However we are building an anonymized e-mail system based on Tor. Some information is to be found at http://www.smallsister.org/ Before the end of the year we will have the tool available. Cheers, Brenno M. Peterson schreef: Hi want to know, if tor is as

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread Karsten N.
Hi, someone has setup an open SMTP relay as hidden service: oogjrxidhkttf6vl.onionport: 587 May be, it works. I did not test it. :-( Karsten N. M. Peterson schrieb: Hi want to know, if tor is as well an email mixmaster, e.g. we have an email client, which is sending only pgp

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread M. Peterson
is it possible to make a kind of tor button, so that all users using a kind of email client are a outproxy or hidden service, or must it be hidden service? so a torbutton with default on smtp relay /exitnode for email? On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Karsten N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi,

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread phobos
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:03:53PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 3.5K bytes in 68 lines about: : is it possible to make a kind of tor button, so that all users using a kind : of email client are a outproxy or hidden service, or must it be hidden : service? : so a torbutton with default on smtp

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:03:53PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 3.5K bytes in 68 lines about: : is it possible to make a kind of tor button, so that all users using a kind : of email client are a outproxy or hidden service, or must it be hidden : service? : so a

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread M. Peterson
Hi Andrew, you missed one important point, tor-email-button is done in an email client, which is sending openPGP encrypted emails only, then you have an exit node, sending the packet to the mail server - or not, if the mail has not been delivered, the mail was not going out, so the smtp server

Kudos on memory usage in 0.2.X

2008-11-09 Thread Matt LaPlante
I've been running a Tor node on my personal VPS for several months as a way to give back to the community with some of my unused bandwidth. My one gripe was that the Tor daemon in 0.1.X sucked a lot of my very limited memory allocation, even when not accepting exits. Having recently upgraded to

Re: Kudos on memory usage in 0.2.X

2008-11-09 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 03:40:30PM -0600, Matt LaPlante wrote: bandwidth. My one gripe was that the Tor daemon in 0.1.X sucked a lot of my very limited memory allocation, even when not accepting exits. It sure did. Mainly on Linux. Having recently upgraded to 0.2.X due to its inclusion in

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread dr . _no
Hi, yes, i started my TOR exit node with port 25 open (default is close) and half a year later my provide sent me a letter that my PC is sending many spam mails permanent and that i should check my PC for malware. Because i could not find an email relay i could forward the mails to, i closed port

Re: Kudos on memory usage in 0.2.X

2008-11-09 Thread slush
Hi Roger, Im in same situation as Matt. Im running Tor exit on VPS, version 0.2.0.x. So each MB of memory is quite bit expensive for me :). Do you personally think that running 0.2.1.x (so experimental branch, but less memory usage) on production machine is a good idea? Stability is the main

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread M. Peterson
So that design would work: http://smallsister.org/show_image.php?id=5 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, yes, i started my TOR exit node with port 25 open (default is close) and half a year later my provide sent me a letter that my PC is sending many spam mails

Re: SANS Paper: Detecting Tor

2008-11-09 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:58:22PM -0500, Roc Admin wrote: I just read this article in the SANS reading room called Detecting and Preventing Anonymous Proxy Usage http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/detection/32943.php From the article: Wireshark's ability to reconstitute a TCP

Re: SANS Paper: Detecting Tor

2008-11-09 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:54:53PM -0500, Roc Admin wrote: I just read this article in the SANS reading room called Detecting and Preventing Anonymous Proxy Usage http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/detection/32943.php Cosmetic issues: 1) It's Tor, not TOR. 2) The paper

Fwd: Problem with dynamic IP

2008-11-09 Thread Geoff Down
I found the keys, they're in ~/.tor/keys . The dynamic IP problem persists. GD Begin forwarded message: From: Geoff Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4 November 2008 04:53:21 GMT To: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Problem with dynamic IP Reply-To: or-talk@freehaven.net Hi, the Tor FAQs mentions

SANS Paper: Detecting Tor

2008-11-09 Thread Roc Admin
I just read this article in the SANS reading room called Detecting and Preventing Anonymous Proxy Usage http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/detection/32943.php From the article: Wireshark's ability to reconstitute a TCP stream was used to observe the content being sent and received. I

Re: any middlemen seeing DoS currently?

2008-11-09 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 01:38:28PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: I've seen continuous table state increase since about 3.5 hours. It went up from 1 k baseline to 5 k. Anyone else seeing this? Any alternative explanation to DoS? (ISP throttling?). Judging by the timing, I'd think it might be

Re: Kudos on memory usage in 0.2.X

2008-11-09 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:15:36AM +0100, slush wrote: Im in same situation as Matt. Im running Tor exit on VPS, version 0.2.0.x. So each MB of memory is quite bit expensive for me :). Do you personally think that running 0.2.1.x (so experimental branch, but less memory usage) on production

Re: Kudos on memory usage in 0.2.X

2008-11-09 Thread slush
Doesn't matter for me, if Tor fails under Windows because Im using mainstream :-). I will try it for week on my home server before running on production. Thanks, Marek 2008/11/10 Roger Dingledine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tor 0.2.0.x is somewhat more stable than 0.2.1.x-alpha in general. For

Re: SANS Paper: Detecting Tor

2008-11-09 Thread Roc Admin
I just read this article in the SANS reading room called Detecting and Preventing Anonymous Proxy Usage http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/detection/32943.php From the article: Wireshark's ability to reconstitute a TCP stream was used to observe the content being sent and received. I

Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-09 Thread Christopher Davis
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:00:36PM +0100, Karsten N. wrote: Hi, someone has setup an open SMTP relay as hidden service: oogjrxidhkttf6vl.onionport: 587 May be, it works. I did not test it. :-( Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be running. The idea is interesting, though. It