Re: tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-24 Thread jon
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jon wrote:
 Greetings,

 Just a couple of notes, since some Tor Project website mirror
 operators may be subscribed to this list:


 Recently there was some discussion regarding a discussion list for
 mirror operators.  This has recently been brought to fruition.
 Instructions on subscription are located here...

 http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/


 Some details regarding the list may be found on the first post to
 the list...

 http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/Jun-2009/msg0.html


 One key change is that mirror changes/additions are now posted to
 this list.  In the past, changes/additions were sent to
 tor-webmaster


 Something that is also desired, is the admin contact for the mirror
  operators.  Preferably stated in an introduction to the list.
 Alternatively, you can send me the contact directly, if you please
 :) A good email address is all that is requested.  This information
 will help to better contact those operators whose mirrors are out
 of date, or otherwise not working.  This way, we can let mirror
 operators know when their mirror *may* be misconfigured or
 non-updated.


 Also, if you host a mirror, and you notice that your organization
 is missing, or inaccurate, and you would like to update it, please
 also post that to the list.  Alternatively, let me know directly.

 Thank you for supporting Tor!

 Very best,

 Jon

... and /dist mirrors also.

The mirror list is on the website at:
http://www.torproject.org/mirrors.html.en

I apologize for the two emails instead of one.

Regards,
Jon


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tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-24 Thread jon
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Greetings,

Just a couple of notes, since some Tor Project website mirror
operators may be subscribed to this list:


Recently there was some discussion regarding a discussion list for
mirror operators.  This has recently been brought to fruition.
Instructions on subscription are located here...

http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/


Some details regarding the list may be found on the first post to the
list...

http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/Jun-2009/msg0.html


One key change is that mirror changes/additions are now posted to this
list.  In the past, changes/additions were sent to tor-webmaster


Something that is also desired, is the admin contact for the mirror
operators.  Preferably stated in an introduction to the list.
Alternatively, you can send me the contact directly, if you please :)
A good email address is all that is requested.  This information will
help to better contact those operators whose mirrors are out of date,
or otherwise not working.  This way, we can let mirror operators know
when their mirror *may* be misconfigured or non-updated.


Also, if you host a mirror, and you notice that your organization is
missing, or inaccurate, and you would like to update it, please also
post that to the list.  Alternatively, let me know directly.

Thank you for supporting Tor!

Very best,

Jon

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Re: tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-24 Thread Karsten N.
Hi,

some mirrors are out of date. Example: http://mirror.onionland.org

Tor stable is 0.1.2.17 and dev. is 0.2.0.9-alpha on this site. Thats
not good support for torproject.org. May be, out-of-date-mirrors can
be removed from http://www.torproject.org/mirrors.html.en ?

Karsten N.


Re: tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-24 Thread Nils Vogels
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Karsten N.
tor-ad...@privacyfoundation.dewrote:

 Hi,

 some mirrors are out of date.


snip


 May be, out-of-date-mirrors can
 be removed from http://www.torproject.org/mirrors.html.en ?


Instead of removing them, it might be nicer to ask them to update their
mirror :-)


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Re: Help Iranian dissidents

2009-06-24 Thread Dieter Zinke

12 (?) or 15 months ago i ve asked the list to help people from iran with tor. 
I got no help. There were other questions help me, i canĀ“ t login to google 
via tor or help me i can create a account with digg via tor. The questioners 
got their desired help. Thats dingy!

Anyway, if the provider shuts down, the internet is down. Nobody needs help 
with tor if the internet is down. Right? That was or is the problem with some 
providers today in Iran.

Regards.





Re: Help Iranian dissidents

2009-06-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:31:51AM -0700, Dieter Zinke wrote:

 Anyway, if the provider shuts down, the internet is down. Nobody needs help 
 with tor if the internet is down. Right? That was or is the problem with some 
 providers today in Iran.

What's the situation with guerilla WLAN (long-distance and mesh), 
packet radio, satellite phones, illegal fiber laid across country
borders? 

Speaking about guerilla, http://www.google.com/search?q=sheevaplug
would seem like an ideal throwaway Tor appliance. With Bluetooth
or WLAN dongles even casting a small (or long-distance, with
suitable directional aerials) wireless cloud.

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Re: Help Iranian dissidents

2009-06-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 06/24/2009 11:44 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 Speaking about guerilla, http://www.google.com/search?q=sheevaplug
 would seem like an ideal throwaway Tor appliance. With Bluetooth
 or WLAN dongles even casting a small (or long-distance, with
 suitable directional aerials) wireless cloud.

The Fonera 2 might be a candidate platform.  Half the price, 32MB RAM,
built-in wifi, support for 3g modems.  IIRC, somebody already did a tor
mod for the first version.

A camouflaged case could be produced that would incorporate localized
power connectors.  Maybe even pass-through.

-Bill

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Re: Hetzner

2009-06-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi!

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:19:03AM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:

 That's more than true; however, I just wanted to show (and thusly,  
 prepare for action in consequence) that (especially) German ISPs will be  
 much more rigid from now on.

Any other countries really better?

The rest of the EU either *has moved* or will be moving to the same
direction, as much of the shit comes from/via the EU (e.g. data
retention).

The US have their own problems (e.g. DMCA, e.g. extra-legal surveillance,
being de facto legalized in hindsight by an amnesty for the
eavesdroppers, e.g. worse privacy protection laws to begin with).

Kind regards,

Hannah.


Re: Hetzner

2009-06-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi!

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 05:52:08AM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:

 So am I, running a middle node. However, for months now I'm thinking of
 reverting it to an exit node as the situation that everyone runs a
 middle node, but no one dares to run an exit node just lets TOR die.

Hidden services will run very fine with only middleman and bridge nodes.

Kind regards,

Hannah.


Re: Help Iranian dissidents

2009-06-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
I can't speak to the others, but for this one:

On 06/24/2009 03:32 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote:
 Step 2) Wait for Tor Project to do the technical work.

There could be at least four reasons:

1) they don't believe it.
They're just throwing ideas at the wall, to see who will do free work
for them.  They wouldn't spend a dime of their own money to do it.

2) lack of capital
They think it's a good idea, but don't have the funds to
allocate/acquire the manpower to get it done.  If only they were better
at raising money they'd get it done.
Summer of Code, perhaps other outlets for these folks?

3) ideological inefficiency
They think it's a tor feature, Tor Project alone should do it, even if
they have the capital and believe the business case.  I trust in
individual self-interest too much to believe this is real.

4) Confusion
They'd do it themselves but it's not obvious what they need to do.
Being opaque, they work on other things first.
I suspect this is possible, so I started a wiki page that could, in a
future form, be useful to this class:
  https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/EmbeddedTips
It would be great if those with experience could add info/links here,
especially architectural elements with broad commonality among potential
targets.

-Bill

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Re: Help Iranian dissidents

2009-06-24 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 06/24/2009 07:02 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote:
 On 06/24/2009 03:32 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote:
 Step 2) Wait for Tor Project to do the technical work.
 
 There could be at least four reasons:
 
 1) they don't believe it.
 They're just throwing ideas at the wall, to see who will do free work
 for them.  They wouldn't spend a dime of their own money to do it.

Right.  Most of these people are successful businessmen, some are even
investors.  They know how the hardware business works, just hoping to
get us to do their engineering for free.  This is a fine business model
if you can get it to work.  ;)


 4) Confusion
 They'd do it themselves but it's not obvious what they need to do.
 Being opaque, they work on other things first.
 I suspect this is possible, so I started a wiki page that could, in a
 future form, be useful to this class:
   https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/EmbeddedTips

This is great.  Thank you.

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