Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-29 Thread Faraaz Damji
On 10-03-29 1:07 AM, Simon Ruderich wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:03:09PM -0400, Faraaz Damji wrote: Since he in Marco's original post referred to the client's ISP, just to clarify, your ISP can't even see leaked data sent through Tor. It would be encrypted before being sent through the

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-28 Thread Jim
Faraaz Damji wrote: On 10-03-27 8:03 PM, Simon Ruderich wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 08:00:44PM +0530, emigrant wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 19:48 +0100, Marco Predicatori wrote: If you use Tor correctly, he can't figure out what site you are connecting to, and that's the whole point.

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-28 Thread Simon Ruderich
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:03:09PM -0400, Faraaz Damji wrote: Since he in Marco's original post referred to the client's ISP, just to clarify, your ISP can't even see leaked data sent through Tor. It would be encrypted before being sent through the Tor network. Just to clarify, you can leak

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-27 Thread emigrant
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 19:48 +0100, Marco Predicatori wrote: If you use Tor correctly, he can't figure out what site you are connecting to, and that's the whole point. thanks for the reply, what do you mean by using Tor correctly?

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-27 Thread Simon Ruderich
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 08:00:44PM +0530, emigrant wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 19:48 +0100, Marco Predicatori wrote: If you use Tor correctly, he can't figure out what site you are connecting to, and that's the whole point. thanks for the reply, what do you mean by using Tor correctly? If

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-27 Thread Faraaz Damji
On 10-03-27 8:03 PM, Simon Ruderich wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 08:00:44PM +0530, emigrant wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 19:48 +0100, Marco Predicatori wrote: If you use Tor correctly, he can't figure out what site you are connecting to, and that's the whole point. thanks for the reply,

How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread emigrant
During ARPs the mac address would get recorded isn't it? So how does TOR protect anonymity with regard to mac addresses? Thank you very much. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread Al MailingList
Where exactly do you think the MAC address would get recorded? Your MAC Is only sent on your local LAN segment? i.e. your MAC only gets as far as your home router, and then your home router's MAC only gets as far as the ISP's end point... etc... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:50 PM, emigrant

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread emigrant
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 18:07 +, Al MailingList wrote: and then your home router's MAC only gets as far as the ISP's end point... etc... you mean, the ISP would get my home routers mac address? if so that would be like he knows me very well.

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:20:40 +0530, emigrant fromwindowstoli...@gmail.com wrote: :During ARPs the mac address would get recorded isn't it? :So how does TOR protect anonymity with regard to mac addresses? Tor works at the tcp layer, not the layers below it. -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread Seth David Schoen
emigrant writes: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 18:07 +, Al MailingList wrote: and then your home router's MAC only gets as far as the ISP's end point... etc... you mean, the ISP would get my home routers mac address? if so that would be like he knows me very well. In the message you're

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread Marco Predicatori
emigrant, on 03/26/2010 07:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 18:07 +, Al MailingList wrote: and then your home router's MAC only gets as far as the ISP's end point... etc... you mean, the ISP would get my home routers mac address? If you want to have a data link, yes. :-) if so that

Re: How does TOR deal with mac addresses

2010-03-26 Thread Michael Cozzi
On 3/26/2010 2:27 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: In the message you're replying to, the ISP means your ISP, not some other ISP. It's true that your ISP knows your home router's MAC address. Other ISPs don't. As an aside, This is true, assuming the upstream protocol uses ethernet