Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-10-07 Thread Scott Bennett
Sorry I'm so far behind on email. Will try to catch up soon. On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:05:45 +0200 Sebastian Hahn m...@sebastianhahn.net wrote: On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Sebastian Hahn wrote: On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: In any case, Sebastian started a trac

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-24 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Sebastian Hahn wrote: On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: In any case, Sebastian started a trac entry for this one: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/1929 wherein he starts out by listing a reason that we shouldn't fix it. Please

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-18 Thread katmagic
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:33:33 -0400 grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Also, regarding the interaction with HS directory lookups and excludenodes... i would suggest that specification in excludenodes should prevent all contact with such node for all reasons. Or just make another option for how

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-14 Thread grarpamp
Well, no rants, but I'm in qualified agreement with Scott [just this once, heh]... that yes, those of us stuck in 80x25 terminals and antique text comment databases could use a multiline format. It the project is concerned about the replace vs. add semantics, one could add two new

gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Scott Bennett
I had planned to upgrade my node from 0.2.2.14-alpha this evening to 0.2.2.15-alpha, but there is an unfortunate and apparently gratuitous, new restriction upon ExcludeNodes and ExcludeExitNodes that, for the moment at least, is preventing me from upgrading. I have a rather long list of

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:36:18AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I had planned to upgrade my node from 0.2.2.14-alpha this evening to 0.2.2.15-alpha, but there is an unfortunate and apparently gratuitous, new restriction upon ExcludeNodes and ExcludeExitNodes that, for the moment at least,

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Scott Bennett
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:36:18AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I had planned to upgrade my node from 0.2.2.14-alpha this evening to 0.2.2.15-alpha, but there is an unfortunate and apparently gratuitous, new

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: As I understand it, we changed no behavior except printing out a warn for people who had multiple lines, to tell them that they're expecting behavior that they're

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Scott Bennett
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:05:09 +0200 Sebastian Hahn m...@sebastianhahn.net wrote: On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: As I understand it, we changed no behavior except printing out a warn for people

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 03:27:01AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: Yup, that's the actual behaviour. Good thing we added the warn, otherwise it might have gone unnoticed longer. Wow. This is a scandalously bad situation. Is there any chance that it will get a high priority for being

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:05:09 +0200 Sebastian Hahn m...@sebastianhahn.net wrote: On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: As I understand it, we

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 02:57:52AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: If what you say is actually the case, then it would seem that a problem described on this list on many occasions during the last few years may, in fact, have been due to this horrible limitation. Several of us have

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Scott Bennett
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:40:02 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 03:27:01AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: Yup, that's the actual behaviour. Good thing we added the warn, otherwise it might have gone unnoticed longer. Wow. This is a scandalously bad

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread st...@hispeed.ch
Le Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu a écrit : On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:36:18AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I had planned to upgrade my node from 0.2.2.14-alpha this evening to 0.2.2.15-alpha, but there is an unfortunate and apparently gratuitous, new

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread F. Fox
On 09/10/2010 01:05 AM, Sebastian Hahn wrote: On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:39:44 -0400 Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: As I understand it, we changed no behavior except printing out a warn for people who had multiple lines, to tell them that

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Damian Johnson
Just a heads up that there *has* been torrc validation in arm for quite some time now. Warnings about this issue (unused entries due to duplicates) have been given since release 1.2.2 (11/8/09, so bit less than a year now). I just tested and it has been giving warnings about ExcludeNodes all this

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 9/10/2010 5:29 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: Even if an editor were available that could handle line lengths great enough to allow placement of each entire list onto a single line in torrc, I'm still in astonishment, wondering how I can actually exclude the nodes that should be excluded.

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Simon Ruderich
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 04:29:38AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I'm still in astonishment, wondering how I can actually exclude the nodes that should be excluded. No angry rants from me at this point. I would recommend a little script which generates the torrc file for you using a template

Re: gratuitous change blocks upgrade to 0.2.2.15-alpha :-(

2010-09-10 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: In any case, Sebastian started a trac entry for this one: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/1929 wherein he starts out by listing a reason that we shouldn't fix it. Please add more pros and cons to the trac entry. it'd be