Re:Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread dgoulet
YES, minus SYS, SYSTEM, OUTLN, etc... Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: O'Neill; Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/21/2002 4:58 AM Not a particularily technical query but a rather practical one. With a named user licence is one user taken per each

STANDBY fle status RECOVER

2002-10-21 Thread Seema Singh
Hi I have data guard setup.When I run select file#,status,enabled,checkpoint_change#,checkpoint_time,name from v$datafile on primary site its looks ok.But on standby site some of datafiles are showing status RECOVER. Log shipping and dataguard log is showing ok.Nothing on alert log either of

RE: Actual list of supported/desupported versions of Oracle

2002-10-21 Thread Bob Metelsky
Bob - I don't feel Oracle makes it easy. They keep changing the location and format. On Metalink, have you clicked on the tab on the left side labeled Certify Availability? Once you are in that section, there are tabs at the top for Product Availability and Desupport Notices. I don't

Re:RE: Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread dgoulet
I sure have! :( Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/21/2002 10:48 AM I have heard rumors that Oracle has tried out this interpretation on some clients. I have also heard some people were a bit outraged.

RE: Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey
Yes, I do. This ploy worked on some of the large corporations in the U.S. And I happen to know this worked on at least one large financial institution. RWB DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 10/21/2002 01:48:54 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL

RE: Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I am here... where is there? Regards, Pat. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting

Re: Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Vladimir Barac
Previous mail, sent by me, was a mistake... Should have replied to someone else... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 18:38 I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening. I know there

RE: Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I have heard rumors that Oracle has tried out this interpretation on some clients. I have also heard some people were a bit outraged. Have you known anyone that paid up based on this interpretation? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Vladimir Barac
Pa napisi adresu ondfa na koju da posaljem! :) - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 18:38 I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening. I know there usually isn't as much traffic on the

Re: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Jared . Still
Not exactly. Someone else has already pointed out that registry entries can be created to gracefully shutdown the database: Doc ID 136214.1 If these are not setup properly, then stopping the services without first shutting down the database is actually harsher than a shutdown abort. This is

RE: is this block cleanout ?

2002-10-21 Thread Jared . Still
MetaLink document 40689.1 contains a very nice description of delayed block cleanout, and walks the reader through an example. Jared Deshpande, Kirti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/2002 08:18 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list

Can 9iAS Rel2 still do SSLv2 40bit encryption?

2002-10-21 Thread Ben
Hi We have 9iAS Rel.1 running 40-bit and 128-bit encryption. We are migrating to Release2 and I am wondering if it will still allow 40-bit. The security guide says: Clients can only connect with one of the specified protocols: SSLv3 - SSL version 3.0 or All - SSL version 3.0 and any other

RE: Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Orr, Steve
Some may not be all there :-) Go Giants! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We're still here. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I haven't

9i external tables question

2002-10-21 Thread Ron Rogers
List, In the 4th Qtr 2002 Select Journal magazine there is an interesting article by Robert G.Freeman of this list. Congratulations on being published again and helping the DBA's of the world increase their knowledge. The article talks about 9i external tables and it also creates a few

RE: How to get the count of all tables using dbms_sql

2002-10-21 Thread Charu Joshi
If the database is 8i+, you can try 'EXECUTE IMMEDIATE' command. Does make life somewhat simpler. Regards, Charu -Original Message- Ling Catherine (CSC) Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, I've found the answer. DECLARE countval

RE: 9i external tables question

2002-10-21 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: 9i external tables question I implemented this a couple of months ago. One part of db is we send out a 'heartbeat' to our external customers. To see when the 'heartbeat' goes out, I made available the external log file as a table and wrote code that measures the time between to

RE: Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
We're still here. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening. I know there usually isn't as much traffic on the weekend, but there is some. And there has been

RE: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey
James and list: You can backup the database without stopping the services. Just shut it down. If you are going to attempt a restore and blow away the control files, etc., then by all means stop the services first. The services would need the control files to be present if it is to be restarted

Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Ball, Terry
I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening. I know there usually isn't as much traffic on the weekend, but there is some. And there has been nothing at all this morning either. Terry Ball, DBA Birch Telecom Work: 816-300-1335 FAX: 816-300-1800 -- Please see the official

Re: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Igor Neyman
No, Even under Oracle8 it's enough to shutdown the database to do cold backup. Services themselves, when the database is shutdown, do not hold on to the database files. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Igor Neyman
Not necessarily, shutdown mode (when you stop services)depends on registry setting: ORA_SID_SHUTDOWNTYPE I - for immediate a - for abort Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Yechiel Adar To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Ray Stell
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:38:22AM -0800, Santosh Varma wrote: I am going to install a product in a client's place where oracle is installed. I am new to oracle. I wanted to know what all needs to be installed .. i mean like tables,tablespace etc... Please give me a list of these and how

RE: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Not sure, but here we do net stop service_name_goes_here_without_brackets and net start xxx. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Santosh - Let me understand . . . Oracle is already installed and in production at this site? Are you installing a commercial product? Then you should probably follow the instructions that come with the product. If it is a quality product with quality instructions, then tablespaces, etc. will be

RE: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread James Damiano
Dear List, I had a situation on a lone Windows/NT system a couple of years ago, where I had installed 8i and was testing a number of facilities prior to going online with an application. Since I wasn't familiar with NT, I played around a bit, the final step of which was to test recovery with a

Re: Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread Ron Rogers
Seán, I don't believe that is the situation. We have named users license for the development server where there are 3 developers and 2 testers, But the dba_users lists all 250 users that are on the production system. Each user can have a different role or table access allowed and must be tested

RE: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
I use Oracle 7.3.4, 8.0.5 and 8.1.7 on windoze and none of them require that the windoze service to be stopped. You can but it is not necessary. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It seems I was completely wrong, is

Re: services on windows?????

2002-10-21 Thread paquette stephane
It seems I was completely wrong, is it the same as for Oracle 8 and 8i? Last time I've worked with Windows it was on Oracle 8 and I thought that you had to stop the services because Windows was not letting you copy the database files. --- Igor Neyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Joe, You can

RE: Actual list of supported/desupported versions of Oracle

2002-10-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Bob - I don't feel Oracle makes it easy. They keep changing the location and format. On Metalink, have you clicked on the tab on the left side labeled Certify Availability? Once you are in that section, there are tabs at the top for Product Availability and Desupport Notices. I don't think the

Re: How to find an object associated with a file # and block #

2002-10-21 Thread Rick_Cale
I got it!!! V$datafile and dba_extents will get what I need. Rick_Cale@team

RE: Named users!

2002-10-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sean - I think you are recalling the old Concurrent Users. A named user is defined as follows: Named User: is defined as an individual authorized by you to use the programs which are installed on a single server or multiple servers, regardless of whether the individual is actively using the

Re: Actual list of supported/desupported versions of Oracle

2002-10-21 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi, I am not sure if it is a definitive list but on the left side of MetaLink is a button Certify and Availability. It should provide you with all info you need.

oraperf comment

2002-10-21 Thread Ray Stell
An recent oraperf report included the comment: Never split index and data files to different sets of disks. It goes on to state that striping is better. If the system in question does not have raid support, wouldn't it be better to split the index and data across spindles? That would make the

RE: is this block cleanout ?

2002-10-21 Thread dcutrone
Rahul: If you're working under Oracle 7.3 and delayed_logging_block_cleanouts=TRUE (default), the block cleanouts will be delayed until another transaction modifies the blocks (when the block is required in current mode again). A simple select will not force the cleanout. If you set

What is wrong with this package? Pls. help

2002-10-21 Thread maheswara . rao
When we compile this package body, we are getting the error - PLS - 00323. Please help. Platform: Solaris 7. Oracle 8.1.6. Package is getting created without any errors. When we try to compile package body we are getting the error 3/12 PLS-00323: subprogram or cursor 'CHECK_OK' is

Record count within a procedure

2002-10-21 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Within an update or load procedure, is there any way to return the transaction count for the number of rows affected? Kind of like the Feedback / NoFeedback option of SQL*PLUS? Thanks! R. Smith If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, any use, distribution or copying of the

RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

2002-10-21 Thread Bob Metelsky
I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I copy-and-paste the text? Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why are the best jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find listening to books on CD to be a better use of time than reading bumper stickers. Nobody

logoff trigger

2002-10-21 Thread becker . bill
Hello, We are on 8.1.7.4.0 (on Solaris), and are having a problem with a logoff trigger and ORA-00164: autonomous transaction disallowed within distributed transaction. The logoff trigger is defined as: CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER get_logoff_stats_trg BEFORE LOGOFF ON DATABASE BEGIN

Re: What is wrong with this package? Pls. help

2002-10-21 Thread Ron Thomas
Easy one. The function declaration does not match between the spec and the body. function check_OK (n1 in number) function check_ok (nn in number) Argument names must be the same. Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. --

RE: What is wrong with this package? Pls. help

2002-10-21 Thread Jesse, Rich
Rao, You've defined the package to use n1 as a parameter to CHECK_OK, but nn in the body. Make them match and all should be well. HTH! :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

Re: What is wrong with this package? Pls. help

2002-10-21 Thread Stephane Faroult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we compile this package body, we are getting the error - PLS - 00323. Please help. Platform: Solaris 7. Oracle 8.1.6. Package is getting created without any errors. When we try to compile package body we are getting the error 3/12 PLS-00323:

trigger - need help writing

2002-10-21 Thread Eric Richmond
When detail_comments in the testable is inserted or updated too then I want it to update the various_comments column which is in the same table (testtable). What would be the most efficient way to write the trigger to do this? CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER ADD_TO_TESTTABLE AFTER INSERT OR UPDATE

RE: is this block cleanout ?

2002-10-21 Thread Jared . Still
Please read MetaLink document # 40689.1 Jared dcutrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/2002 02:08 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: is this block cleanout ?

Re: oraperf comment

2002-10-21 Thread Tim Gorman
Ray, I don't know exactly what was intended with the comment, but I agree with your interpretation. --- As far as any other reasons for the comment... RANT In terms ofmyths that have persisted with Oracle over the years, the ideathat some performance benefitexists from I/Oparallelism

RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

2002-10-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Bob Thanks for asking. No, most of the replies were along the lines that I'd be less of a road hazard were I drunk with a cell phone in each ear. But knowing someone else is interested is encouraging. Given the easy access to broadband, maybe we could arrange some audio file swaps. Shouldn't

Re: oraperf comment

2002-10-21 Thread Jared . Still
Ray, In addition, there are apps that expect to find indexes and data in separate locations. SAP is one of those. Jared Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/2002 01:43 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread Jared . Still
Dear list, Though I won't be attending OOW, I will be in San Francisco during those same dates ( 11/10 - 11/15), just a couple miles from the Moscone Center where OOW is held. Are there any plans yet among list members to get together one evening? I think Monday is spoken for myself, but it

Re: Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread Joe Testa
Jared, you're going to SF and not OOW?, what you there for(although i wont be, i dont care for the large crowds at OOW). joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, Though I won't be attending OOW, I will be in San Francisco during those same dates ( 11/10 - 11/15), just a couple miles from the

RE: Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread Molina, Gerardo
No plans yet. I will probably not be attending OOW but would look forward to getting together with list members also. Last time we met at Chevy's (corner of Howard and 3rd Street). How about Tuesday Nov. 12th? I can make a reservation for, say 15 people at 7pm. Sound good? Gerardo

RE: Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread John Kanagaraj
Jared, Count me in as I live in San Jose, and will drop in on any agreed date. Gerardo Molina (of SF, still on this list?) and self pulled together a group of illustrious personalities that even included Steve Adams (and the Goddess of course!) It would be a pleasure to meet you after all these

RE: Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Not this year... we have several highly visible apps going live anywhere from 10/31 through 11/8 (well, they were all scheduled for 10/31, all the database group's work is done but the developers..) and while I am not the production DBA (a refreshing change), I still don't think be away the first

RE: Get together at OOW

2002-10-21 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
I will be in SFO for the OW. Please let me know if we decide on the date and the place. I would appreciate it if someone sent an e-mail to my hotmail address. I will be out of the country till Nov 10th, but will be in SFO on Nov 11th. Thanks. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Monday,

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Santosh Varma
it is a telecom product. i am asking about any oracle specific installations.. like tables,indexes,tablespaces etc. i hope i am clear santosh -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Santosh - Let me understand . . .

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Naveen Nahata
Santosh, Your problem is still not clear. Are you going to install the product which will also install tables etc. in an oracle database? Or it is an independent product and you just want to be sure that it can co-exist with oracle? Regards Naveen -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Mark J. Bobak
Santosh, I don't mean to be rude here, and there are lots of people, including myself, who try to be helpful. But, it's simply not possible to give a list of what all needs to be installed. It's like showing up in a room full of construction workers and saying, Hi, I'm about to start building my

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Santosh Varma
ok. i will make it clear. i am going to install the product which will also install tables/indexes/table space etc. can i have some scripts to do it or should i manually create the tables one by one ?? -Original Message- Nahata Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:28 AM To: Multiple

RE: Installation

2002-10-21 Thread Santosh Varma
u r right Mark. as regards version, i am using 8.1.5 I will come down to asking how to create the tablespace... santosh -Original Message- Bobak Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Santosh, I don't mean to be rude here, and there are