Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-06-03 Thread Tim Gorman
blush! Thanks... Having been through two books and having aborted the third, I can only repeat what a friend told me after completing his MBA at night school: You can work your job, live your life, and go to school. But, only two at a time... Substitute write a book for go to school and that

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-06-02 Thread Cary Millsap
To clarify my Book! Book! Book! :)... This is my request for Tim to write [another] one. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Reykjavik, Ottawa, Dallas, Washington, Denver, Sydney - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...

Re: RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-06-02 Thread Prem Khanna J
Cary, I will be first one to get a copy of the book. And now this is my turn to request Tim ;) Book! Book! Book! Jp. 2003/06/02 18:54:38, Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To clarify my Book! Book! Book! :)... This is my request for Tim to write [another] one. Cary Millsap -- Please

Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-31 Thread Prem Khanna J
Tim, First, i would like to thank U a million. It was a real GOOD explanation. I don't know why should you apologize for helping me. I should be thankful to u for helping me in time. GREAT to have guys like u in this list. Knowing is GOOD. but making others know it , is GREAT. thanx for your

Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Tim Gorman
JP, In the EXPLAIN PLAN, it says Card=262146, indicating that the query expects to retrieve over a quarter-million rows. Is that in fact correct? If so, the CBO is making the correct decision to perform a FULL table scan. What was the comparison of elapsed times between the two plans, the one

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Naveen , these parameters look to be already set Doesn't FBI come in with 8.1.7 and Prem is on 8.16 and a comapatible of 8.10 is in place Failing that, as my second guess, 2 privileges need to be assigned to the user (QUERY_REWRITE and CREATE INDEX). The 2nd one is obviously in place to allow

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
FBI is supported on 8.1.6 (that is what I use them on), but you may be right about the compatible setting. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:46 AM To: Multiple

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Cunningham, Gerald
Wow, there sure are a lot of Scott's in India... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L JP, In the EXPLAIN PLAN, it says Card=262146, indicating that the query expects to retrieve over a quarter-million rows. Is that in fact

Re: RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Prem Khanna J
John, I tried it with COMPATIBLE=8.1.6. no nulls in that particular column but it's the same again. As Tim pointed out, CARD=262146 -- as per the EXPLAIN PLAN for SELECT w/o HINT. the SELECT retuens about 2.5 million rows. which is why it goes for a FTS than a Index scan is my understanding

Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanks Tim. But the SELECT returns just 2 of 20,00,000 records. and the Time elapsed for Index scan is 0.7 secs where as it is 5 secs for FTS. Hell a lot of lousy things here Tim. just mending it one by one. Regards, Jp. 2003/05/29 22:30:02, Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JP, In the

RE: RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Naveen Nahata
AGE whose value cannot not be found from the index. Regards Naveen -Original Message- From: Prem Khanna J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ??? John, I tried

Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Tim Gorman
JP, I apologize in advance for the long email, but I think you'll find it rewarding to read it all the way through... The CBO is just a mathematical processor, and a rather good one at that. It is choosing the best plan given the data it has been given, which is admittedly often incomplete.

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Naveen Nahata
Wow, too good! -Original Message- From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Function Based Index - Not Used ??? JP, I apologize in advance for the long email, but I think you'll find

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-30 Thread Cary Millsap
Book! Book! Book! :) Speaking of query optimizers, here are some simple things about Oracle query optimizers that I think a lot of people miss: - CBO is just a module that chooses an execution plan - RBO is another module that chooses an execution plan - In 8.1.6+, CBO usually does a better job

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-29 Thread Naveen Nahata
Don't remember but you need a few parameters set appropriately for the FB indexes to work. I guess one of the parameters is QUERY_REWRITE_ENABLED which should be set to TRUE and you also need to set QUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY to some appropriate value. Regards Naveen -Original Message-

RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-29 Thread Naveen Nahata
Oops! didnot read your full message. try setting OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ with alter session to a lower value Regards Naveen -Original Message- From: Naveen Nahata Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Function Based Index