You trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson? ;0)
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baby! :)
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nah, your wife would get upset.
now, if you tempted me with more Friday recipes, that would be a different
story :)
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Sorry for the last email, I didn't mean to send it to the list. If anyone by chance read the whole thing and has any questions, feedback or advice I welcome it all. Again sorry for the long message. Ivan
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I think that's awesome Ivan!!!
KK
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I know a person in the Cleveland area that has one in his basement that he uses for a
print server (and it basically replaced his furnace, too).
April Wells wrote:
my last company still used pdp-11s
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And this 300/1200 Boud rate modems were without error correction mode
resulting lot of garbage in between specially working from subcontinent to
dialin in UK or USA machines...Same modems were working well if worked
within USA or UKThat was 1990-91 era
MOHAMMAD RAFIQ
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-oh yeah. you guys know that they published a book of the Fractured Fairy
-Tales? Yes, I have it. You had to ask?
yes and no, i expected it.;-)
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Telergy,Inc.
Fractured Fairy Tales and Mr. Peabody and Sherman on Bullwinkle.
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Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
Sherman?
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I can't really tell if no more answers are coming in or things are
just very slow but I'll try to fill in the answers to my questions
that have not been answered.
Looks like the questions about the floppy drive (or should I say
drives as I had the luxury of dual drives) are the ones that need
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Famous...I hope at least recognized by my deeds. It's funny this is coming up, I am currently in the middle of starting a dream of mine.
Basically I am starting a non profit organization designed to teach these hot in
very well carry on:(
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young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :)
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The sad thing is, it really didn't matter back then! Character mode coming
back to a orange or green monitor (at least on the Compaq), it didn't do too
bad keeping up with typing. Or so it seemed, until the next boost came out
then woohoo! look how fast I can go! Now if I'm not on cable or a
I didn't see my first color tv until 1978, when I bought one as an
engagement present for my fiance.
I always did wonder what all the fuss was about The Wizard of Oz before that
:)
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High School ('70), I took a computer class -- we used a Hewlett Packard
9100B -- it was the size of a typewriter, had a memory that could hold
14x14 instructions. Just enough space to write a tic-tac-toe program. The
smallest HP calculator today has infinitely more power that than thing did.
oh yeah. you guys know that they published a book of the Fractured Fairy
Tales? Yes, I have it. You had to ask?
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Go for it.
30 years from now your graduates will be on this list bragging about how
they started and bragging about how thier first server only had 1G of RAM.
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I had a VIC-20 with a TTY terminal emulator and a 300 buad modem that I
used to access IBM mainframes from home (so I wouldn't have to drive 20
miles on a Saturday). The company found out that I was using my own
equiptment to access their computers and loaned me a TI Silent 700 to use
instead.
I had filed down their horns at the time...
--Scott
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I've met those hellspawn... NOT!
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I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3.
For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial.
I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982.
I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home.
What is the language that uses a
1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of
weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I
had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch
card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil
-was after us.
-
-I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to
-make putting it back together simpler.
-
-When
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop!
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Brian
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I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3.
For those not in the US, it's from an old
Ain't that the truth. I was in charge of maintaining
them (I use the term very loosely) when I was in
college and those drives were the flakiest things.
Used to drive me nuts. The joys of running word star
on CP/M... and thinking I was in heaven when I moved
to wordperfect. Still think
Peabody. Professor Peabody. A long-eared, white dog. Who taught History
to Sherman.
Terry
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Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
Sherman?
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And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M.
Nasty little thing.
I built a billing system for a telephone company on them using Dbase II.
We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own and then on was left with the
system. We kept 10 because we would sometimes go through a lot of
The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly...
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San Antonio, TX
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that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I
don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but
not
According to Mr Owl, the answer is 3.
Rachel Carmichael wrote:
one (ker-runch!)
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Scott Shafer scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly...
-
---Scott Shafer, High Priest
- San Antonio, TX
hey, i thought that was my job!;-)
and i think i've been in this damn business t long.
should
Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zero
experience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenance
programming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I worked
blue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined the
USAF and they told
We have a bowl full of them here. I will get back to you. I could
maybe get the whole staff into it and average it out so that we have
a more accurate answer.
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And the question (still
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
-Sherman?
Ok true story time. i went to work as a forms developer for Xerox Business Systems
back in 93 and the first day i got into work i
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-Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his
-boy Sherman?
On black and white TV!! :(
and was the screen round and did the tv have legs built
2314 Disk drives are responsible for me being in the IT racket.
The problem with the 2314 was that it was removable, but it could not be
removed until it came to a complete stop. Otherwise you might damage the
heads or the disk itself. The disk drive had a glass window so that you
could see if
The correct answer is 1 if it is a Cherry Toosie Pop.
Kathy
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And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take
to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?
yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and
such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a
compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a
little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the
I remember doing APL on an IBM5100, an AT with a 4 inch BW screen
built on the side, and a switch to boot into APL or BASIC. The first
thing they had to do was blow it to the top of the link with 64k of
memory and TWO tape drives.
I could do in two hours what it took an engineer 2 days to do. In
Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the
time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to
Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set
of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection.
You could
Ah, but lack of knowledge seems to indicate that you have been worshipping a
false god(dess).
so I will leave before being found out and suitably punished :)
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Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
Sherman?
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Date: Thu,
It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than
my ugly metallic Kaypro.
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yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and
such.
One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years
ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we
were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a
1200k modem?)
Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe
young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :)
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Hahahah, that's a good idea, that would very funny!!
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Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the
time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be
Famous? OY!
Ivan -- we usually manage one list get-together at the conferences. I'll
gladly swap stories over beer with you.
I work at a multi-media music company with an online presence (that's a
quote from marketing). The average age here is about 23. I *think* the CEO
is older than me,
-Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his
-boy Sherman?
On black and white TV!! :(
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Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
Mr. Peabody and Sherman?
Of course.
I was into Creepy Crawlers and Vac-U-Form back then but I'll bet you
were more into Incredible Edibles or Fun Flowers.
Cheers
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Okay, who remembers
Oh, I remember reminiscing !
I was all set to become a vetinary surgeon when I met a Commodore Pet,
running rat trap
and was hooked. That was 25 years ago.
(sounds of sobbing and tears hitting the keyboard)
Steve Parker
Technical Consultant
LIS
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Yes! Mr. Peabody, Boris and Natasha... who could forget them...
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Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy
Sherman?
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heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had
to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :)
and I thought it was the speediest thing ever
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my last company still used pdp-11s
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It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than
my ugly metallic Kaypro.
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Rachel
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I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( .
In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a
Now your getting to the good stuff! Ruth
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Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels.
What are you talking about?
There's 2 of them right there in the name.
Jared ;)
[EMAIL
What was it
Dreezel...drazzle...drozzle...drone
Time for this one to come home!
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nah, those were girl things.
punch ball outside, roller skates with two sets of wheels and a key to
tighten the front clasp, climbing monkey bars
indoors it was books. Always books. I can't remember not reading
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With RSX and KED? May be some good, old VT100 and VT220? Oh, that makes me
nostalgic!
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Thanks, Ivan.
Most
of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. as a
first generation Mexican-American.
The
great equalizersare self-education, self-esteem and
self-motivation.
When
you are
Has anyone worked on IBM's punch card sorter? And IBM-1401 Mainframe? Talk
about un-breakable stuff. The 1401 cabinet had tumbled down 10 steps during
its move to the new computer room (we did not have lifts/elevators in the
building then). But came to life without any problems when it was hooked
I thik LOGO was based on LISP.
Steve Parker
Technical Consultant
LIS
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we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil
was after us.
I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to
make putting it back together simpler.
When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay
in the
And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take
to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?
I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3.
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And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us.
Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch
tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk
about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with
-IBM? Can't remember.
-
-Regards,
-Patrice Boivin
-Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
-
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- CP/M
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with
-IBM? Can't remember.
-
-Regards,
-Patrice Boivin
-Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
-
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-
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Pat Hildebrand scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer
-would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were
-computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer
-that I got in
I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue
what any of you are talking about:)
KK
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Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with
IBM? Can't remember.
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
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CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.]
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that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I
don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but
not all.
I either:
1)never had a memory for anything
2)was sleepwalking through most of my life
3)am not and was not a nerd
4)all of the above
I
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What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC?
Charlie Chaplin, easy one.
correct.
Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC?
How?
I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but
What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC?
Charlie Chaplin, easy one.
Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How?
I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me.
How many boot disks did computers require before 1982?
0
How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼ diskette into a 2-sided one?
Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors.
I loved it when
they came out with those precise clippers.
***I just used a plain hole punch
What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼ diskette pockets?
Was it
I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer
most of those questions.
and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband
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We need to admit the rest of the world considers us geeks. Even in IT world
dba's are probably one of the geekeest (is it a new word I invented?), not
too many people like us. Well, may be C++ programmers would come close in
geekeness (new word again?) to us.
My friend tried to hook me up with
e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the
Sinclair, not to mention a few other things:
Heathkit! The S-100 bus! 8.5 floppies. I remember drooling over
those catalogs. But I always thought that the Timex Sinclair was a toy.
Timex? Makes a computer?
How many
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the
Sinclair, not to mention a few other things:
I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham
radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Jenny Jacobson scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
- I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham
- radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit DX40 xmitter
- and an AR88 receiver. Math major in college. Earned an A in slide rule.
I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic
location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in
high school - my older son was.
I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make
telegraphs out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a
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