Re: Index update = Delete + insert ?

2003-02-12 Thread Connor McDonald
Effectively so, unless you regularly put the same value back into the index. I haven't verified it, but in this case my understanding is that oracle does not the work at all. Of course, any index operation could invoke more work in terms of re-arranging blocks to keep the validity of the index

Newbie to Oracle DBA

2003-02-12 Thread Santosh Varma
Hello list, I wanted to know of some good sites where i can learn the basics as well as advanced DBA topics. Could anybody help me out ? Thanks and Regards, Santosh

Accessing LOB

2003-02-12 Thread narasimhan.thotapalli
Friends, Find below the script of a table with a CLOB datatype CREATE TABLE lob_content_display ( content_display_id VARCHAR2(30), business_id VARCHAR2(30), language_id VARCHAR2(30), content_typeVARCHAR2(30), detail CLOB DEFAULT EMPTY_CLOB(),

RE: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition - RAC

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Leith
I heard Mogens talk about this at the UKOUG Unix SIG in London at the end of last month (You Probably Don't Need RAC, or: pRos And Cons). It was truly an eye opener! The upshot was, if you don't have a requirement to be up from a failure within 5 minutes, then you don't need RAC. As has already

Accessing LOB

2003-02-12 Thread narasimhan.thotapalli
Friends, Find below the script of a table with a CLOB datatype CREATE TABLE lob_content_display ( content_display_id VARCHAR2(30), business_id VARCHAR2(30), language_id VARCHAR2(30), content_typeVARCHAR2(30), detail CLOB DEFAULT EMPTY_CLOB(),

Select Query -- Return all rows of column as a single record ??

2003-02-12 Thread oraora oraora
guys, SQL select A from test ; A --- 1 2 3 4 . . . 10 i need the result as A -- 1234...10 how to do this ? can someone help me ? the env. is oracle 8.1.6. TIA. Prem J. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: oraora oraora INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ORA-03113: End of File on Communication Channel

2003-02-12 Thread Ovidiu Maftei
Hello guys, I have an unexpected problem with this error. It appears when I executeand select statement showing bellow. The strange things isuntil nowI don't catch itnevermore. I use two RDBMS: Oracle 8.1.7 EE for Windows NT4 andOracle 8.1.7 EE for HPUX. The select statemen is: select

RE: Newbie to Oracle DBA

2003-02-12 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
This will keep you busy. Enjoy. http://web.singnet.com.sg/~petermag/oracle.html Dave -Original Message-From: Santosh Varma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:09 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Newbie to Oracle DBA Hello

Oracle connection through firewall

2003-02-12 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi everybody Since I'm a networking dummy, here's a question that might be easy to answer: I have to setup client access (Oracle Net) to an Oracle Database through a firewall. So far, I only know that the listener listens on a dedicated port (like 1521). After a client requested a connection, a

Oracle Installer, iAS and memory requirements

2003-02-12 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I had fun at home, I have an old Pentium II with 700M of RAM running Windows 2000 Pro... Installed 9iR2 -- no problem, I shrank the SGA as low as I dared. The OracleHTTPServer service works OK. Installed iDS9iR2 -- works, provided I stop most of the Oracle services in the services applet. I

RE: Breaking down values in a large table

2003-02-12 Thread John.Hallas
Thanks Waleed, that is exactly what I wanted. And thanks to all the others who responded John -Original Message- Sent: 11 February 2003 22:54 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I hope this helps: -- drop table test_bal ;

ocfs

2003-02-12 Thread Bruno Vanters
Hello, When mounted, oracle's cluster filesystem is listening on udp port specified by parameter ip_port in /etc/ocfs.conf. Does that mean, i can mount it over the lan? If yes, then how (mount -t ocfs -o ...)? If no, then what is the true usage of this port? Bruno Vanters Junior DBA TietoEnator

DBA (Oracle) /Peoplesoft Developer Needed in Colorado

2003-02-12 Thread OraStaff
Boulder, Colorado company needs a Peoplesoft Developer/DBA (Oracle) for a full time staff position. The opportunity is an engineering position requiring intimate knowledge of PeopleSoft, not just a PeopleSoft administration/DBA position. Local Candidates preferred, but the company will consider

AW: Oracle connection through firewall

2003-02-12 Thread Kulev, Milen
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stefan Jahnke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2003 13:14 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: Oracle connection through firewall Hi everybody Since I'm a networking dummy, here's a question that might be easy to

RE: Count(*) last 30 seconds

2003-02-12 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
Title: Message Hermant, Sergey The table has 13 columns, the PK is formed for the first 11. There is no deletion nor update, just inserts in the table. I had truncated the tables sometimes testing the procedure that load the rows. This is the result with an auto trace.

RE: Index update = Delete + insert ?

2003-02-12 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Vijay,List When Updating to the Field to the SAME (Previously Existent) Data Value , Does a DELETE RE-Insert of the Same Row to the index happen nevertheless ? Thanks -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:50 PM To: VIVEK_SHARMA Hi Vivek, Index rows are first

RE: Count(*) last 30 seconds

2003-02-12 Thread Hemant K Chitale
That's approx 100 records per blocks. What is the value of DB_FILE_MULTIBLOCK_READ_COUNT ? Also, what is the elapsed time for the query if you re-run the query immediately ? [the first run fetched everything in physical reads, the second run should still find some or most blocks in the SGA,

RE: Oracle License for Training

2003-02-12 Thread Rodd Holman
It never hurts to diversify your skills. As everyone on this list will tell you MySQL is no where near on equal footing with Oracle. However, it is used in A LOT of small shops in the Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL combination. Keeping your options open and current is always a good idea. Rodd Holman

Re: Oracle connection through firewall

2003-02-12 Thread Igor Neyman
This is from one of previous postings: Oracle has a registry setting that will force all traffic for a session through the same port that the listener connection was made on (e.g. 1521). Place the USE_SHARED_SOCKET parameter in the registry under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:Software:Oracle with a

OT:Disk Array performance benchmark?

2003-02-12 Thread chao_ping
Hi, friends: We plan to buy new disk array for new splitted database server, Server will be V880 with 8CPU and 8G memory, but we are considering whether to buy new T3 Disk array or use diskarray from other vendor. We have old T3ES with 256M cache, and it seems does not meet the

RE: Count(*) last 30 seconds

2003-02-12 Thread Broodbakker, Mario
Title: Message That's not so bad: 14644 physical reads in 30 seconds..that's about 500 I/O sec. Depending on your disk layout that's pretty optimal, I think. Mario -Original Message-From: Ramon E. Estevez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: woensdag 12 februari 2003 14:19To:

RE: Count(*) last 30 seconds

2003-02-12 Thread Turner, Adrian A SITI-ITPSIE
Title: Message Ramon, Our Win2k boxes get between 1000-2000 gets a second off a SAN. Are you using compressed folders to store your datafiles? Whats Multi_block_read_countset to? Set MBRC to 32 (32x8K=256K). Make your extent sizesare divisable by 256Kto reduce gets Regards Adrian

RE: Newbie to Oracle DBA

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Santosh - Web sites are excellent for finding the answer to specific questions, but may leave gaps in your knowledge. If I may offer a suggestion, get a good fundamentals book, and work through it trying all the examples you can. A good recommendation is Oracle9i DBA 101

parallel index creation again:in which case, can we use parallel with single cpu env?

2003-02-12 Thread chao_ping
hi, dba friends: some paper said, pqo should only be used in SMP machines, while others say, We can also use pqo in uniprocessor machines in some case. I am trying to use parallel index creation in the following env: Dell 1650 with 3 scsi160 disks and 1 CPU and 2G memory. Oracle

RE: Question About RMAN

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
RMAN and export are two different animals. RMAN, in general, should not be though of as a logical backup facility. That is to say, you should not backup your database with the though of just recovering one table. RMAN really isn't meant for that. However, that being said, it is very possible to

Rman and database shutdowns

2003-02-12 Thread Ron Rogers
List, OS OpenVms 7.3-1 Oracle 8.1.7 rel 3 Archivelog mode. We are trying to work through backup issues here and I have a question. The system nightly backup procedures backup up the disks used by Oracle (software and data). A full backup works but an incremental does not backup any files.

View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
I'm fighting a view Someone hand me a big dagger with which to kill it. I have a view that takes 6 minutes to run when I query it like this: select count(*) from TST_XVW a where claim_carrier_key=41721; Yet, if I take the SQL from the view, add the claim_carrier_key predicate to it, I get a

RE: Commit boundary - Stripe Unit Size Co-relation

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Vivek - Just to add to Connor's statements (wow am I being rash here), Oracle's strength is that it's architecture disconnects transactions from disk writes. On one hand, block may be modified several times before being written to disk (hot block, for instance). On the other hand, Oracle may need

Re: Re: parallel index creation again:in which case, can we use parallel with single cpu env?

2003-02-12 Thread chao_ping
Michael Ivanov, Hi, Thanks for your reply. In fact, I builded the index several times like, and the result is persistent across difference test case: So, I think buffer is not the cause of the parallel execution slower. But I really do not get

buffer pools

2003-02-12 Thread becker . bill
Hello, Env: 9.2.0.2 on Solaris 2.9 We are currently considering a proposal regarding the use of the 3 buffer pools represented by db_cache_size, db_keep_cache_size, and db_recycle_cache_size. I am wondering if this is a good idea or a bad idea. The proposal follows. The buffer pool space can

Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Bob Metelsky
Good Morning All Im looking at trying to grant privilidges to a guest user (who does not own the tables) I know I can do it for individual tables Eg GRANT INSERT ANY SCHEMA_NAME.TABLE_NAME TO Guest; but I need to grant to an entrie schema Like GRANT INSERT ANY SCHEMA_NAME.* TO Guest;

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Robert - I always try EXPLAIN PLAN as a starting point. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm fighting a view Someone hand me a big dagger with which

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Ron, man, you got me on the version thing. I yell at people who don't say what version they are on, and here I am forgetting to do the same. I'm on 9iR2. You are correct that the view would not use the index if I just did a select * from it with no additional predicates. However, if I do a

Re: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread chao_ping
Freeman Robert - IL, Hi, can you show us the different execution path for the view and the sql? I think that is the key to solve the performance problem?Maybe hint like no_merge help? Regards zhu chao msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.happyit.net www.cnoug.org(China

database relationship chart ??

2003-02-12 Thread Janet Linsy
Hi, I got the Erwin(3.5.2) working for generate charts for one schema. Thank you for all the help. The chart doesn't show PK, FK relationship. There is on lines between entities to show that they are related. How does Erwin do that? Or maybe is there other tools that can generate db chart

RE: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: RMAN: I don't trust it

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Lyndon A rule of thumb in job-seeking is when you don't have experience, your education counts all the more. This applies when you are just starting your career or when you are changing careers. I haven't seen too many DBA job postings that require a BSCS (always glad to be educated, though),

Re: Rman and database shutdowns

2003-02-12 Thread Jay Hostetter
Ron, Are you saying that you use VMS backup commands to backup the database data files while the database is open? This will result in unreliable backups unless you put the tablespaces in hot backup mode. If you are not using RMAN, you should have a script that backs up each datafile

RE: copyright

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Tim Whatever you write is automatically copyrighted. In other words, someone can't just freely copy what someone else has written and claim it is their own (at least in the last dozen years). A good short resource is: http://www.ott.caltech.edu/security/copyright_tutorial_Basic.htm Now, as

Re: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: RMAN: I don't trust it

2003-02-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 08:14 am, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: Lyndon A rule of thumb in job-seeking is when you don't have experience, your education counts all the more. I agree. No Comp. Sci. education means - To quote Oracle 9i: Unemployable, Can't break-in, Just can't get it. This

Re: RE: Re[2]: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition

2003-02-12 Thread dgoulet
Dennis, We're going from 2 database servers to 1 for production. Therefore it's already licensed as needed to be a standby served, saving us the extra dollars. Dick Goulet DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/11/03 1:54 pm: Dick How is the standby database cheaper? I understood from

Ewrin question ??

2003-02-12 Thread Janet Linsy
Hi all, I have couple of questions about ERWIN. -- I need to reverse engineer for just one schema. I specify the login name/pwd for that schema, but ERWIN generates charts for objects do NOT belong to that schema too! How do I get charts for a specific schema only? -- When connect to the db,

RE: utf8

2003-02-12 Thread Steve Main
Title: Message Thanks Ian, Unfortunately I haven't been able to get this to work either Running the command below from a Windows sqlplus session SQL update product set name = chr(2122) where sku = 'IB1'; 1 row updated. SQL commit; Commit complete. SQL select dump(name) from

RE: Oracle License for Training

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - I agree that it can't hurt. Looking at another database can even give you a fresh perspective on Oracle. Some assignments involve converting an application from MySQL to Oracle. The critical question in my mind is whether you see yourself as more of a development DBA or a production DBA? I

RE: Count(*) last 30 seconds

2003-02-12 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
Title: Message Hermant and Chitale, DB_FILE_MULTIBLOCK_READ_COUNT=32 DB_CACHE_SIZE big integer 16777216 DB_BLOCK_BUFFERS = 0 Tablespace is LMT with a uniform size of 128 MB, DB not in archive mode is for a DW system. The time for the first run and the re-run last the same. To my

Re: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Robert, I will make the assumption that you are on a newer version of Oracle. If I remember correctly, a view does not use an index and will use a full table scan. That could be the cause for the time difference. I know that this doesn't answer your question but it might trigger other thoughts

Re: Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Thomas Day
CREATE ROLE GUEST_USER; SPOOL GIMME.SQL SELECT 'GRANT INSERT ON '||TABLE_NAME||' TO GUEST_USER;' FROM USER_TABLES; SPOOL OFF @GIMME GRANT GUEST_USER TO GUEST;

RE: Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Bob Metelsky
Thnaks for the response. I realised that immediately after I posted. This is what Ive done /*@D:\createinsert.sql drop user Guest; create user Guest identified by * default tablespace tables temporary tablespace temp; grant connect to Guest; */ set echo off set feedback off set pages 0

database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of larger size?

2003-02-12 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs, Oracle 8.1.7 WinNT I would like pros/cons on datafile sizes. It is better to have more of less size or less with larger sizes and why? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--

RE: Rman and database shutdowns

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron - I reread your question a little closer, and am still a little confused. Okay, you are doing both RMAN and cold backups? That is okay as long as you don't shut down the database while RMAN is performing its backup. We have been doing both for several months until we complete our RMAN

RE: buffer pools

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Bill I don't think too many analytical studies have been done on multiple buffer pools, but since I am extremely interested in this subject, I'll provide my opinion, which is worth every bit you paid for it. Just dividing the buffer pool into three pieces, in my opinion, would degrade

RE: Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Bob, the best thing I can offer is the following: set lines 150 set pages 2000 set trimspool on select 'grant insert on ' || table_name || ' to Guest_Role;' from user_tables / Create the role named in the script (or change the role name to the actual Oracle username) and grant the role to the

Re: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Just got out of a meeting with the systems group. The Incremental backup was not working because the command was written wrong. There has been a decision to do cold backups each night. The system people swear that the OpenVms can successfully backup an open file (datafile) and have it recovered

Re: Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael
select 'grant insert on '||table_name||' to guest;' from user_tables spool \tmp\grant_insert.sql / @\tmp\grant_insert.sql there is no one shot command that I know of --- Bob Metelsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning All Im looking at trying to grant privilidges to a guest user (who

RE: Rman and database shutdowns

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron RMAN documentation uses the terms open and closed. RMAN can back up an open database. RMAN can back up a closed database (not usual, except for a non-archivelog database). You can shut the database down when RMAN is not performing a backup. RMAN can even bring the database up or down. Just

RE: Rman and database shutdowns

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Ron, I'm not sure I understand your question. You are shutting down your database for an OS level backup? The incremental backup you say is not working, is this an RMAN incremental backup or an OS level backup? As for the shutdown of Oracle, if RMAN is in the middle of a backup at that time, the

RE: buffer pools

2003-02-12 Thread STEVE OLLIG
Bill - i certainly don't profess to be an Oracle PT expert, but i think you are on a potentially fruitful path if there is a performance issue in need of a solution. it can make sense to assign a large infrequently queried table that has a history of flushing hot blocks to a separate cache.

RE: Re: parallel index creation again:in which case, can we use p

2003-02-12 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
My experience shows that a parallel degree of less than 4 is nearly always slower than serial. I would recommend tring parallel degree of 4. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L parallel with single cpu env? Michael

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Done that Dennis. The difference in the two is how the plan is being crafted by the optimizer. Bottom line is that the excellent plan I'm getting from the query by itself is not being replicated when it's moved into a view. It appears that this is because the predicate is not being pushed into the

Re: Schema specific grants

2003-02-12 Thread Igor Neyman
Here is some code, which creates synonyms and grants permissions: REM This script create public synonyms for all Tables and Views owned by SCHEMA_NAME REM and grants privileges on those objects to 'other' users. declare lSyn integer; BEGIN -- Get Table(View) name FOR Objects IN (SELECT

Re: database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of larger size?

2003-02-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael
the ever popular answer it depends how large are the tables you are storing in these datafiles? Is this a data warehouse where you will be storing massive amounts of data? (1000 2GB datafiles to store one table's worth of data is somewhat obscene) Is it a large database? Heavily used? OLTP?

RE: Ewrin question ??

2003-02-12 Thread Brian McGraw
Janet - 1. Piece of Cake. When you choose the Reverse Engineer tool, the 'Set Options' window has an Options panel on the right-hand side. You should see a 'Tables/Views owned by' choice. The default is 'All'. Change the radio button to 'Owners (comma separated)' and type in the schema

RE: Oracle License for Training

2003-02-12 Thread Jared . Still
If MySql continues as planned, I think Oracle will find it a force to be reckoned with, much as MS has discovered to be true about Linux. Of course by that time, according to the latest IT business intelligence as seen in Computer World, most of our jobs will have been outsourced by then, and

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ron, While Vms *can* backup the open datafile, it is worthless when you need to recover it. I know, I've been there. Worked on Open Vms for about 8 years, including Oracle for 3 years. The file would need recovery immediately upon an attempt to open it. And I would not bet my job that I could

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: View HELP Please! I remember some parameter about Query re-writes... it may be only for Materialized Views... but could be the culprit here. Also, do you have Oracle Label Security set on this table, or Fine-Grain Auditing? -Original Message- From: Freeman Robert - IL

INSERT ... RETURNING ROWIDTOCHAR(ROWID) INTO problem on 9.2.0.2.1

2003-02-12 Thread Sam Bootsma
Hello All, We have Oracle 9.2.0.2.1 running on our server. When we run the following command from Sql Plus, we get the end-of-file on communication channel. This occurs consistently on all four of our 9.2.0.2.1 instances on this server. It has also occured on a new installation of 9.2.0.2.1 on

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Predicate - values in the where clause. -Original Message- To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Freeman Robert - IL Sent: 2/12/2003 1:24 PM Robert, please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by predicate? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron - Yes they can back it up and recover it from their perspective. You've brightened my day. Let us know if you want some more explanations to discuss this with them again. ;-) Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: Re: parallel index creation again:in which case, can we use p

2003-02-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
If you only have one CPU, then is parallel either not supported, or simply a waste of time? I actually thought it was not supported. If you only have one CPU, what do you expect to gain? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread STEVE OLLIG
Ron - the text below is from the fine VMS manual. I suspect your SAs are referring to the backup/ignore=interlock command. I certainly would not rely on it as part of my Oracle Disaster Recovery plan. The cold backup decision sounds to me like a wise one. BACKUP Invokes the Backup

Re: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Stephane Faroult
Freeman Robert - IL wrote: Ron, man, you got me on the version thing. I yell at people who don't say what version they are on, and here I am forgetting to do the same. I'm on 9iR2. You are correct that the view would not use the index if I just did a select * from it with no additional

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Robert, please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by predicate? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Done that Dennis. The difference in the two is how the plan is

RE: Concat SQL_TEXT from Statspack tables.

2003-02-12 Thread Jesse, Rich
H. It seems that I don't get replies to a lot of my posts. Do I ask the hard questions or just stupid ones? On sencond thought, don't answer that... ;) In any case, in reinventing the wheel, I decided to just create a function that uses a REF CURSOR to generically concat the column for me:

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
The explain plans indicate that the predicate is being filtered out after the view itself executes. I don't see how a no_merge hint would help, since I'm not getting view merging anyway. Thanks! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 2/12/2003 10:04 AM

RE: database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of larger

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - Here is the way I see it: Larger file sizes - Fewer files to manage. - May exceed O.S. limits (be careful on WinNT) Smaller file sizes - More flexible, can just back up or move a single file. - Fewer tables per file, may be easier on tablespace recovery. Dennis Williams DBA,

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread John Kanagaraj
Robert, Have you considered the current values of _complex_view_merging, _push_join_predicate, _push_join_union_view. Some of them may be obsolete in 9iR2, but there are some published and recommended setting for these for specific Apps 11i environments. You could also look at/play with the value

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
I'd tell them, great, then lets test it. Trust no one. Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 2/12/2003 10:23 AM Just got out of a meeting with the systems group. The Incremental backup was not working because the command was written wrong. There has

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Robert, have you tried recoding the view with the hint in the view text? Or am I misunderstanding your original post which looks like you've put the hints on the select count(*) statement? Rachel --- Freeman Robert - IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done that Dennis. The difference in the two is

interMedia Textkey (DRG-10826)

2003-02-12 Thread Gary Chambers
All... One more submission to see if there are any takers, then I'll stop nagging and keep looking... I'm running Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris 8. Will someone please help me understand the Textkey parameter in the ctx_doc.themes function? I am receiving a DRG-10826 error on: exec

Re: database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of

2003-02-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Rick, The answer is (YES, 42, IT DEPENTS). Not ot be smart but there in NO correct answer. The answer depents on may factors. 1. If the table is large, Why have it in may little extents. That could hurt performance if the data becomes chained. 2. If the table is small, why have it in a large

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
There are 2 or 3 parameters, but none help. Nope, no FGAC... RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 2/12/2003 12:59 PM I remember some parameter about Query re-writes... it may be only for Materialized Views... but could be the culprit here. Also, do

Re: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread Jay Hostetter
Ron, Back when we had Oracle on VMS (Oracle 7.1 - pre RMAN), we used this backup command for each datafile: backup/log/ignore=(interlock,nobackup)/new This will backup open files. But if your tablespace isn't in hot backup mode, it doesn't help you for database recovery. You might get

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ron - Thought of a simple way to explain the situation to your VMS administrators. I've simplified a few things, but it should suffice. If I've missed anything critical, someone will correct me ;-) Each Oracle datafile has a transaction number recorded. The Oracle control file has a transaction

RE: database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of larger

2003-02-12 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: database file sizesmore of smaller size or less of larger size? How about consistent file sizes? For raw the VLDB whitepaper recommends something like 128MB, 1GB, and 8GB but isn't it also a good practice for cooked? It depends... -Original Message- From: Rachel

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Robert, Is the view part of an application that you can make use of an OUTLINE? I think that is the proper terminology. Then you could force the desired optimization. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/03 01:39PM Done that Dennis. The difference in the two is how the plan is being crafted by the

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Tom - Human grammar terms adapted to computer syntax :-) http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~cs448/db2_doc/html/db2s0/frame3.htm#ch 2pred Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:24 PM To: Multiple

RE: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Hi Rachel, I've actually tried it both ways, with no joy. best luck I've had so far is turning max_purm's to about 100 which makes it run in about 2 minutes. Still to slow though. RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 2/12/2003 1:54 PM Robert, have

RE: Re: parallel index creation again:in which case, can we use p

2003-02-12 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Better utilization of the CPU. While one process is I/O-ing (or waiting on an I/O) the other process can use the CPU. Various tests I have performed on various unixes (unicies?) have shown the parallelism usually scales to between 3 6 times the number of CPUs before performance degrades. Quite

RE: Rman and database shutdowns UPDATE

2003-02-12 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Ron, the analogy I always use is who has to recover the database when it crashes? When they say, well, YOU, then I say Fine. We are going to back it up the way I see fit. End of story. Have fun testing~!! Good Luck. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259

RE: View HELP Please - Problem solved

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
I think I fixed the problem... within my view, there was actually aggrigation of the predicate going on. I'm thinking that this is why Oracle could not push the predicate into the view. Once I removed the aggregation (I moved it to a higher level view) it worked great. Thanks to everyone for your

RE: RMAN or SQLBacktrack?

2003-02-12 Thread TP
Hi Robert, Can you suggest a good RMAN book to start out. We're also in the process of looking at RMAN to replace in-house scripts. TIA Tom P. --- Robert Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We converted from SQLBacktrack to RMAN. RMAN is a very robust product, and offers more features that

RE: RMAN Feedback

2003-02-12 Thread Jared . Still
I tried setting the NLS_DATE_FORMAT at the command line to try and get some decent date formats. Worked fine from both linux and Win2k. Jared Kurth, Michael J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/11/2003 05:58 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple

RE: RMAN or SQLBacktrack?

2003-02-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Tom Just in case Robert is too modest, I'll suggest the best: Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery by Robert Freeman and Matthew Hart The best, the most extensive. Covers the most popular MMLs. There are only 2 others that I am aware of: Oracle RMAN Pocket Reference by Darl Kuhn Scott Schulze

Re: interMedia Textkey (DRG-10826)

2003-02-12 Thread Gary Chambers
All... slapping hand to forehead STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!! Will someone please help me understand the Textkey parameter in the ctx_doc.themes function? I am receiving a DRG-10826 error on: I withdraw my question -- I was looking at it MANY layers too deeply, and absolutely overlooked the

Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-12 Thread James Howerton
DBA's Check the article's comment on Oracle trying to ban Teradata from IOUG Teradata Steals Oracle's Data Mart Users ... Teradata pushes consolidation and woos away Oracle customers. But Oracle strikes back. Sort of. Will bean counters surf the Web with Excel? Will Steve Ballmer and Larry

RE: RMAN Feedback

2003-02-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Nice to know Jared, I'll add that to the Oracle9i RMAN Errata and give you credit! Thanks! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 2/12/2003 3:39 PM I tried setting the NLS_DATE_FORMAT at the command line to try and get some decent date formats. Worked

RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-12 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Teradata baned from IOUG??? Guys, With everything going on - should I take up a second career? -Original Message- From: James Howerton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Teradata baned

RBS datafile recovery

2003-02-12 Thread Sujatha Madan
Hi, I am doing some recovery testing and am testing the corruption of the rbs datafile. However, I am running into some problems. What I've done so far: 1) Shutdown db 2) Copied the backup datafile to proper location 3) Commented the rollback_segments parameter in the init.ora 4) startup

Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-12 Thread Jared . Still
I can't imagine why they would want to replace Oracle with Teradata. It's expensive. It runs only on NCR or Windoze. The architecture is nothing special. I imagine the PHB's had their fingers in those moves. Been there, got the T-shirt, now it's a dust rag. Jared James Howerton [EMAIL

RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-12 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Teradata baned from IOUG??? should I take up a second career? You're only on your first career?Isn't DBA usually a second or third career at the least? Environments change and the ability to adapt/learn is an evolutionary survival factor. Yours truly, Old Dog learning new

Re: View HELP Please!

2003-02-12 Thread Jared . Still
Robert, Why not run a trace on both the view and standalone SQL, and share the results? At least the explain plans. Jared Freeman Robert - IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/2003 07:18 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list

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