Re: orion-list Jeremiah's Eternal Priesthood, the Rechabim

2002-06-02 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
George, ...and no doubt quasi-religious is probably a more useful term. Quasi-religious is not merely a more useful term, it is, for a change, an extremely accurate term. All, repeat *all*, craft and/or skill clans/guilds/corporations/etc. are quasi-religious. An ancient clan craftmaster or

Re: orion-list Jeremiah's Eternal Priesthood, the Rechabim

2002-06-02 Thread avigdor horovitz
I haven't been following this thred too much, but something just struck me in this message. In Mesopotamia there are guilds and they take loyalty oaths. David Weisberg studied this genre in his PhD dissertation, published on the YNER series. the Mesopotamian craftsmen who produced cult statues in

Re: orion-list Jeremiah's Eternal Priesthood, the Rechabim

2002-06-02 Thread George Brooks
Dr. Altman, You wrote: These clans were not guild-like; they **WERE** guilds [emphasis mine] with whatever specialty upon which they were economically dependent passed down within the clan/guild and whose secrets were guarded by the clan craftmaster. The role of clan craftmaster has nothing

Re: orion-list Jeremiah's Eternal Priesthood, the Rechabim

2002-06-02 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
George, It's easy to explain why quasi-religious is an accurate term to describe craft-clans and guilds. It's also easy enough to explain why the teacher/ guardian role of craftmaster can be confused with a priestly role. But your question is unanswerable by anybody except the Talmudists and