it for the purposes of this post), is
that they are NOT texts of the other two major branches of Judaism.
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convincingly, you need to
show that either the other 2 KNOWN sects wrote the sectarian
materials, or you need to identify ANOTHER sect that you think
DID write them.
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because of your detail.
Thanks.
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that.
Otherwise, all I perceive is obstructionism throwing road
blocks in the way of the most encouraging line of investigation.
David, thanks for the time you put in a very thorough response to
my earlier post.
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of Josephus, these Zadokites are NOT
the same kind of people, and do not have the same kind
of motivations or even theology.
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Priests
had been relatively respected if not admired?
Looking forward to your clarifications.
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of the Essenes flourished elsewhere by
different names. The Therapeautae is the first example to
come to my mind. And this could be a useful harmonization
of the differences in views we once had about the nature
of this Egyptian community.
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of the negative positions are geared more to prove there isn't
a final proof than to advance the study of the Essenes as a
people or an institution.
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or not saintly men felt capable
of raising abandoned or dedicated children.
I can understand your belief that a kernel of a story became
a myth for complete celibacy. But now you are saying oh,
by the way, there is no kernel either.
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the entry on the Rechabites, appears to be based on an older source,
and places in context the entire question concerning who the Essenes
were: the Essenes are of non-Jewish ancestry, and sometime during
or after the time of the Maccabees, a Jewish branch emerges.
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Josephsus was
trying to explain who *his* Essenes were, and why he doesn't
make similar qualifications (about them being born Jews)
regarding the Sadducees and Pharisees.
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Greg,
You provide a fine summation of the various definitions.
Regarding my definition you write:
George Brooks ... gives a definition which is interesting in
identifying beliefs in the afterlife as a basic marker
distinguishing Essenes, i.e. the Essenes' belief (according
to Josephus
was scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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PS: DE, do check the OED.
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the
roots of the Enochian priestly faction?
I look forward to an exploration of these issues.
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the Rechabites and the
House of Judah as well.
Comments? Thoughts?
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Suter. For taking the time to provide your
thoughts on my scenario for the Enoch - Rechabite linkage.
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that Rechabites did not have some priestly
members at the time of Jeremiah is to turn Ezekiel's opposition to
a Jerusalem faction of priests into unexplainable gibberish. Who
else is the most likely candidate?
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by marrying the children of the High Priest.
I wish I had the footnotes right in front of me but if someone
has a copy of the book in front of them... it should be straightforward
to find.
I will be responding to some of the other posts today or tomorrow.
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lineage.
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in this topic? Someone as knowledgeable as
you is bound to have something to contribute on the subject
of Enoch and those Hebrew who wrote about him.
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to the Rechabite defending James as
a metal worker he calls him a priest. So why you keep wanting
to return to the metalworker theme is sort of beside the point,
don't you think?
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of discussion that I'm looking for.
We could have become mired down in semantics (in an attempt to
stop a useful exchange of views)... or we can talk about the issue
at a higher level with an EXCHANGE of ideas. Your suggestions
are very helpful.
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that seem even LESS
clear to the reasonable mind.
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with Rechabites.
David, I promise, I will get to the Anchor item!
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to Rechabites marrying into the family of the
High Priest is the source of the idea that there were Rechabite
Priests around at the time of the death of James (the brother of Jesus).
I am wondering if BOTH points of view might be true?
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to see where these correlations take the thread.
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out of kilter with the O.T. treatment
of clans and tribes and I believe I will be able to make some
suggestions as to how to understand these sometimes arbitrary
tribal conventions in a completely in a new and informative
light.
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If we can get an exact translation of the rabbinic materials
cited in Footnote 83, I'm sure it would be very helpful.
Can anyone provide these?
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and AFTER the advent of Dositheus.
But I have to think about that some more.
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of documents includes lots of
texts that I've never thought to read.
In a future post, i will identify the key
factors of one document that connects it to
the other, per the viewpoint of Boccaccini.
Comments or thoughts about this chain are,
as always, encouraged!
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, there is warrant for
priestly descent.
Can anyone provide the FULL texts of BOTH citations?
I'm sure it would help advance the discussion.
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'. [Eisler's discussion of the Solubbim or
Saleb is really quite interesting!]
By the way, Prof. Gibson wrote in response to my
earlier request:
George Brooks wrote:
Can anyone provide the FULL texts of BOTH citations?
I'm sure it would help advance the discussion.
May I politely suggest
should be so phonetically similar to another
term that gets thrown around alot:
05342 netser {nay'-tser}
from 05341
TWOT - 1408a; n m
AV - branch 4; 4
1) sprout, shoot, branch (always fig.)
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then, the members of the list will have to contemplate
the way these different ideas keep coming together around
the Jewish Enochian theme of the Watchers.
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is eerily on point about my own suggestions about
the anti-Samaritan tone of the Enochian literature.
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a person can safely say
that Enochian sectarianism is ALSO uniquely Judah-ite. In
fact, it might be more of a hall-mark of NON-Jewish schools
of devotion to Yahweh!
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the answers proved, I think
there is more than enough here to suggest further investigation.
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of that
was opposed to wine consumption or that they spontaneously
came up with the same rule system that the Nabataeans did?
I look forward to your comments.
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there is more than enough here to suggest further investigation.
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