Russ is one of the founders of Centos project using the handler @orc_emac here in this chatroom log... just search within here. Also i talked abit about RMS interview.
[12:11am] trifon: but all ubuntu [12:11am] croo: which is kinda debian [12:11am] orc_emac: reI have 2 ubuntu as well [12:12am] Ramiro_Vergara: does Centos receive donations via a foundation orc_emac ? [12:12am] orc_emac: but in not the translation of "ubuntu": I cannot figure out how to isntall Debian? [12:12am] red1: it taxes 5% of income [12:12am] red1: +1 vote [12:12am] Ramiro_Vergara: but how? [12:12am] orc_emac: red1: all voluntary [12:12am] Ramiro_Vergara: via a foundation [12:12am] red1: self .. [12:12am] orc_emac: no tax by centos [12:13am] orc_emac: yes -- self assessed contribution levels [12:13am] red1: SAT [12:13am] red1: self added tax [12:13am] Ramiro_Vergara: i know but donors require proper doco in order to treat this as an expense [12:13am] red1: self-docmented [12:13am] trifon: funny thing is that ADempeire is ERP and all we do it for money at thagreemnt to suport core development :(e end. but we still do not have [12:13am] Ramiro_Vergara: sorry for thinkin as a business person [12:13am] orc_emac: Ramiro_Vergara: centos formerly used a paypal gateway to make paperwork, and we are re-building that atm [12:13am] red1: or tax person [12:14am] Ramiro_Vergara: red1: that would not fly [12:14am] red1: ok 4% [12:14am] Ramiro_Vergara: it is better 5% and generate an invoice [12:15am] Ramiro_Vergara: orc_emac: do not know if this is confidential, but how many paid users does Centos have? [12:15am] orc_emac: Ramiro_Vergara: provide me a sample of what you want the invoice to look like, and it is easy enough to build a 'invoice' or more precisely a 'receipt' generator [12:16am] orc_emac: Ramiro_Vergara: this detail is not publicly discussed by the centos team [12:16am] Ramiro_Vergara: ok [12:16am] Ramiro_Vergara: understand [12:16am] Ramiro_Vergara: we rae just trying to learn from other's experiences [12:16am] orc_emac: [12:16am] Ramiro_Vergara: rae=are [12:17am] orc_emac: Ramiro_Vergara: orcs are famous for their typos [12:17am] Ramiro_Vergara: lol [12:17am] olrrai left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:17am] red1: Ramiro_Vergara: you are an orc too! [12:17am] Ramiro_Vergara: yeap, think so [12:18am] red1: i tot i am the only one [12:18am] Ramiro_Vergara: where is this interview with Stallman red1? [12:18am] red1: he is invited here to malaysia [12:18am] Ramiro_Vergara: ok [12:18am] red1: also Linus is in neburing country [12:18am] red1: Indonesia [12:18am] red1: i think they re celerities here [12:18am] Ramiro_Vergara: are you meeting him as well? [12:18am] red1: not me [12:18am] red1: i am the reporter [12:18am] red1: yes i plan to [12:19am] Ramiro_Vergara: ok [12:19am] red1: if i can push the other fanatics away [12:19am] ForestG left the chat room. [12:19am] red1: i mean by [12:19am] Santy joined the chat room. [12:19am] red1: not me = red1 is not famous in his own land [12:19am] Santy: Hello good afternoon [12:19am] Santy: I have onlu one question [12:19am] red1: sorry we take more questions [12:19am] Santy: about adempiere [12:19am] trifon: [12:20am] trifon: red1, please do not confuse newbiews [12:20am] trifon: go on santy [12:20am] red1: unless your one question is "Is this the most flame and famed project in the world?" [12:20am] trifon: we will kill red1 later [12:20am] Santy: Does this soft permit the customer acces to its data, bills and proyect like a extranet? Im trying the customers to access to it's information in real time [12:20am] Santy: is it possible? [12:20am] red1: yes [12:20am] Ramiro_Vergara: yes it is [12:20am] trifon: yes. [12:20am] Santy: [12:20am] red1: (hurray.. i beat trifon) [12:20am] trifon: 3 yes till no wow [12:21am] red1: ok no more question [12:21am] trifon: ok. red1 i'm dead ... [12:21am] Santy: jajaja [12:21am] red1: you may leave [12:21am] Santy: ok thank you I will try it! [12:21am] Ramiro_Vergara: maybe we should vote at this channel [12:21am] red1: [12:21am] red1: or pay for the more answers [12:21am] transiluminescen: i'm beginning to love this channel already [12:21am] red1: or share the booty [12:21am] Ramiro_Vergara: lol [12:21am] transiluminescen: i just hate it when it's dead and everyone's sleeping [12:22am] Santy left the chat room. (Client Quit) [12:22am] Ramiro_Vergara: he actually left [12:22am] trifon: this was fast ! [12:22am] Ramiro_Vergara: it was red1's fault [12:22am] trifon: but the record for fast question and anser is 1 min so far [12:22am] croo: [12:22am] transiluminescen: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH [12:23am] transiluminescen: you guys are a riot [12:23am] red1: its ok for me to commit fault [12:23am] red1: [12:23am] transiluminescen: that was a good laugh [12:23am] Ramiro_Vergara: yes a riot, half barbarians half civilized [12:23am] red1: i collect faults [12:23am] trifon: 5-th Virtual machine is just born [12:23am] red1: who is the mother? [12:24am] Ramiro_Vergara: half barbarians speak spanish [12:24am] trifon: me. mother and father! [12:24am] red1: mon dieu! [12:24am] trifon: who has the server with the most memoery in this channel? [12:24am] trifon: i have 8 GB [12:24am] trifon: and 4 cores. [12:25am] red1: trifon: where did you get the money? [12:25am] trifon: 700 euro red1 [12:25am] red1: can you share with your slave? [12:25am] trifon: cheap one! [12:25am] trifon: just for game [12:25am] trifon: gaem with mutliple VMs and Ademepires and Penthaos [12:25am] red1: then u can play with my 9 yr old son [12:25am] trifon: and Postgre... [12:26am] red1: he likes network games like.. i dont really know.. some shooting... [12:26am] trifon: if he knows how to install ademepire [12:26am] trifon: no shooting here. no GUI on the server. [12:27am] Ramiro_Vergara: one of my customers has 8gb and 4 cores [12:27am] trifon: Ramiro do you use Virtualization? [12:28am] Ramiro_Vergara: he manages 250 adempiere (actually compiere) concurrent users [12:28am] You have returned from away. [12:28am] You have set yourself away with "z". [12:28am] Ramiro_Vergara: i have only used VM for presentations and demos [12:28am] red1: Ramiro_Vergara: u didnt answer my email about working in Chile [12:28am] red1: i hear its better than California [12:28am] red1: [12:32am] Ramiro_Vergara: we are migrating him from compiere to adempiere [12:37am] You left the chat by being disconnected from the server. [12:37am] You rejoined the room. [12:38am] croo: it said before-->> YOU said it before [12:41am] croo: http://www.adempiere.com/index.php/ManPageW_InfoWindow#Tab:_Column [12:42am] croo: sorry wrong tab! [12:42am] Ramiro_Vergara: trifon: yes I know [12:43am] Ramiro_Vergara: via study cases and further material we have been discussing [12:43am] Ramiro_Vergara: reference sites are also important [12:43am] orc_emac: trifon: to get my one file: ... 21.2MB of additional disk space will be used [12:43am] KermitTheFragger left the chat room. ("Leaving") [12:44am] trifon: i have to leave now. [12:44am] trifon: will be online later from my slooooooo home net [12:46am] croo: trifon, is your 3g not working well from home? [12:46am] trifon: croo: sometimes is fast 140KB sometimes is slooooo 6 KB [12:47am] trifon: not sure for the reason. [12:47am] trifon: i leave now [12:47am] trifon: bye everyone [12:47am] trifon left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]") [12:47am] Santy left the chat room. ("Page closed") [12:47am] croo: did you tell it only to connect @ 3g? it usually is in default of fall back to gprs if the signal is stronger [12:47am] red1 left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:47am] You are now known as red1. [12:47am] croo: too late [12:50am] ForestG joined the chat room. [12:51am] Tester_ joined the chat room. [12:51am] paviles left the chat room. [12:51am] Michael_Judd joined the chat room. [12:53am] orc_emac: in the adminpack.sql setup strcipt -- what is the customary value for: '$libdir' ... I assume this si sme PostGreSQL convention, but I do not know these [12:56am] croo: I've never need this adminpack.sql ... what's it's purpose? [12:56am] orc_emac: croo: trifon calls it to initialize teh DB control files looks like [12:57am] bepi_ left the chat room. [12:58am] orc_emac: croo: I was following hie blog post, and part was not present so he supplemented it in IRC yestereday -- see: http://pastebin.centos.org/29387 [12:58am] orc_emac: oops -- missed part one second [12:59am] orc_emac: hmm -- some thing confusing the pastebin actually .... [01:00am] croo: I Just use a standard postgres install ? are you getting problems creating the DB? [01:01am] orc_emac: 'standard postgres install' under Debian != 'standard postgres install' under CentOS .. there is some DB keying needed [01:02am] orc_emac: I suspect a ACL DB creation under centos needs to happen as well [01:02am] croo: the important things to do is make sure it's listening on the IP you wish (defined in postgres.conf) [01:02am] croo: sorry postgresql.conf [01:03am] croo: and that you accept connections defined in pg_hba.conf [01:03am] orc_emac: IP, and socket it seems ... yes I am familiar with that [01:03am] croo: I think the only difference is where these are .. on centos I think it's /var/lib/... pgdata or something [01:03am] croo: in debian it's /etc/posgresql/8.3./main... [01:04am] croo: ocen sec I will check a centos install [01:04am] orc_emac: * nod * .. known as to Debian -- hre is the IRC transcript fragment from yesterday: http://www.herrold.com/temp.txt [01:04am] orc_emac: adminpack.sql [01:04am] orc_emac: adminpack.sql has a path it is courcing, and I just need to know its purpose [01:04am] orc_emac: sourcing [01:07am] croo: /var/lib/pgsql/data is the conf files in centos... [01:07am] croo: you ran the setup first? [01:07am] croo: setup, import, server2 [01:08am] croo: that's ADEMPIERE_HOME/RUN_setup.sh, ADEMPIERE_HOME/RUN_ImportAdempiere.sh and then ADEMPIERE_HOME/RUN_Server2.sh [01:08am] orc_emac: croo: will see -- I have full notes, and it was dying at the DB setup script [01:08am] orc_emac: $ cd utils [01:08am] orc_emac: $ ./RUN_ImportAdempiere.sh [01:08am] orc_emac: ADEMPIERE_HOME/RUN_setup.sh ran [01:09am] orc_emac: ADEMPIERE_HOME/RUN_ImportAdempiere.sh dies on credentialling issues presently [01:11am] orc_emac: red1: I see in postgresql.conf taht there is a default of: # max_connections = 100 [01:11am] orc_emac: perhaps this is the limit you are hitting? [01:11am] croo: hmmm ... normally the first install does raise errors... it's the setup that signs but it's not there until AFTER you run setup first time - a bit of chicken & egg - the setup signs the db which sounds like it is credentials related) .. but it normally works anyway [01:12am] orc_emac: croo: oh there are uncaught items flagged as error which seem to be wranings in the first as well --- but at the end it said it succeeded [01:12am] croo: ok [01:13am] orc_emac: is there interest in cleaning these warnings up? [01:13am] • orc_emac can file a bug if needed [01:14am] croo: Mike, MIchael_Judd there does a lot centos installs perhaps he can clarify - Trifon is very good but he is new to Linux (I think). I mostly installed Oracle on Centos [01:14am] orc_emac: croo: thank you [01:15am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: ping - have you a centos install writeup or checklist I might see? [01:15am] croo: but I don't remember doing anything different for postgresql - and I never heard of adminpack.sql before [01:15am] orc_emac: croo: heh -- all I know is from reading trifon's post [01:15am] croo: actually I think he has something on centos in the wiki [01:15am] orc_emac: will google [01:16am] croo: http://www.adempiere.com/index.php/How_to_install_Adempiere_on_CentOS_5.1_%28Xen%29_with_Postgres [01:16am] orc_emac: croo: you are fast [01:16am] orc_emac: ahh -- uses a non centos set of postgresql [01:17am] croo: except that referes topljava and we don't need that any more [01:17am] croo: except that referes to pljava and we don't need that any more [01:17am] orc_emac: yeah - this is a problem with web content - -it rots [01:17am] croo: that would have been for pljava I think [01:17am] croo: now I believe we just use the standard postgresql [01:19am] Kai_ joined the chat room. [01:19am] trifon_android joined the chat room. [01:20am] trifon_android: hi I'm back [01:21am] trifon_android: anyone alive? [01:21am] orc_emac: the zombies got us all while you were gone [01:21am] croo: trifon_android, you can usually config the 3g not to fall back to GPRS! I used that .. otherwise if it picks up a strong gprs signal it'll drop back to it! [01:22am] croo: gprs is only 5-6k so it sound slike that is what happens you! [01:22am] croo: and what is adminpack.sql? I never install it?? [01:22am] croo: did a scan of one of Mikes centos boxes and no sign of a file called adminpack.sql either [01:22am] Michael_Judd: hi orc_emac [01:23am] orc_emac: croo: it looks like it does the initial setup .. the wili article is stale but I can freshen it [01:23am] croo: hey .. ok I'll leave you to Mike [01:23am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: hi [01:23am] josephnexus: http://www.jonathancoulton.com/music/thingaweek/ReYourBrains.mp3 <-- song about zombies [01:23am] orc_emac: nice article -- thank you for writing it [01:23am] Michael_Judd: my article ? which one ? [01:23am] orc_emac: http://www.adempiere.com/index.php/How_to_install_Adempiere_on_CentOS_5.1_(Xen)_with_Postgres#Install_Postgres [01:24am] orc_emac: some stuff is non centos but I know where those bodies lie, I think [01:24am] Michael_Judd: yes - that was for support of older versions - no you can use a stock postgresql [01:24am] Michael_Judd: now ... [01:25am] Michael_Judd: did you manage to get an install going ? [01:25am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: I am at the DB setup phase [01:25am] Michael_Judd: There were some tuning things I do for postgresql - some os level - some db level [01:25am] vpj-cd_ left the chat room. (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) [01:26am] Michael_Judd: what's the problem ... [01:26am] Michael_Judd: ?? [01:26am] vpj-cd joined the chat room. [01:27am] trifon_android: can't fond how to disable 2g [01:27am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: it looks as though I have munged my postgresql server startup by partially following the Debian instructions -- repairing atm [01:27am] Michael_Judd: ok - standing by ... [01:27am] orc_emac: ty [01:29am] croo: trifon_android, did you find the "wireless settings" [01:30am] trifon_android: croo:yes [01:30am] croo: no 3g only option in there? [01:30am] ttcc joined the chat room. [01:32am] trifon_android: no [01:32am] croo: maybe you cannot do it with it then [01:32am] trifon_android: have to ask at the shop [01:32am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: see: http://www.herrold.com/adempiere-centos-wiki-1.txt -- looks like I need to tell initdb not to try to create a db? [01:33am] orc_emac: that is -- it seems to have one already [01:41am] ForestG left the chat room. [01:42am] antoniten left the chat room. ("Page closed") [01:48am] orc_emac: actually it looks as though the createuser command has options skew pahhen [01:49am] croo: orc_emac are you using a gui? if so pgadmin makes the whoe postgres admin stuff very easy [01:49am] orc_emac: croo: * heh * .. I am an RPM packager .. no GUI there thanks [01:49am] croo: lol [01:50am] croo: no offense ... I did note the this orc is also emac fan! [01:51am] croo: emac users not known for wanting the easy way .. otherwise they'd use vi .. (whistles) [01:51am] orc_emac: yeah 0-- when I first started doing IRC, I had it on an emac running a RHL 7 distribution variant I build from YDL [01:51am] orc_emac: vi works fine under OS/X [01:51am] croo: lol [01:52am] croo: it's real bad sign if you cannot install adempiere! [01:52am] orc_emac: http://pastebin.centos.org/29399 [01:52am] croo: it's normally a 10minute job [01:53am] orc_emac: coAdempiere is installed -- DB setup instructions are the issue, and this is because web stuff rots [01:53am] orc_emac: nothing I've not solced lots of times [01:53am] orc_emac: solved [01:53am] croo: you have lots of toys there [01:53am] orc_emac: I support any Unix that ever breathed [01:55am] croo: i never got to try a Next [01:55am] orc_emac: Michael_Judd: bug in wiki article -- the -E for createuser is not a valid option -- it is only in createdb in my postgresql-server-8.1.11 [01:55am] orc_emac: croo: three in the garage -- I'll sell up to two [01:55am] croo: lol [01:57am] croo: I considered buying one, or a sparc station.. in the end I bought a big pc and installed this new thing a friend of a friend gave me ... 90 floppies .. he said it was called Linux [01:57am] orc_emac: * nod * [01:57am] croo: it's been a non-stop learning experience [01:59am] orc_emac: interesting interesting: http://pastebin.centos.org/29402 [01:59am] orc_emac: this is some old stuff perhaps [01:59am] Michael_Judd: what pgversion ? [02:00am] orc_emac: postgresql-server-8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 [02:00am] Michael_Judd: ok ..... [02:01am] Michael_Judd: what version are installing of adempiere ? [02:01am] orc_emac: 3.5.4a Adempiere_354a.tar.gz current [02:01am] Michael_Judd: ok - so I would use the current yum version of pgsql ... [02:02am] orc_emac: that is C5 current or course [02:02am] Michael_Judd: let me confirm from one of our cloud vm's ... [02:02am] Michael_Judd: actually we are using 8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 [02:02am] Michael_Judd: with no issues .... [02:03am] Michael_Judd: mmmm [02:03am] banym joined the chat room. [02:03am] orc_emac: re-running ./RUN_silentsetup.sh with the DB users set up [02:04am] Michael_Judd: what's in your AdempiereEnv.properties ? Just in case there's an issue with one of the param seeing as you are using headless setup [02:05am] Michael_Judd: what rights does the adempiere db use have ? [02:07am] croo: I was going to say .. try with postgres user [02:08am] Michael_Judd: yes - or I think you should also have the adempiere user setup first with superuser rights - you can de-priviledge later) [02:08am] Michael_Judd: but I think running the import as postgres is a good idea croo ..... [02:09am] orc_emac: on tel -- one moment [02:10am] trifon joined the chat room. [02:11am] trifon: i'm back from my laptop this time [02:12am] croo: welcome back! [02:12am] croo: so you've been using the Hero for a few weeks now ... what's the verdict? [02:23am] You left the chat by being disconnected from the server. [07:04am] You rejoined the room. [07:06am] Tester__ joined the chat room. [07:06am] Tester__ is now known as Tester_XOXX. [07:06am] Tester_ left the chat room. 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